Mods NOT worth doing (9004 to 9007 conversion)
11-13-2008, 05:32 PM
#41
11-13-2008, 05:51 PM
#42
11-13-2008, 07:17 PM
#43
That's the way I was going to go. I tried a regular Sylvania Xtravision 9007 in one lamp and a 9004 Silverstar Ultra in the other. The Sliverstar blew the Xtravision away it was a much whiter and brighter light. So then I went with 9007's Silverstar Ultra's but had the alignment issue. Glad it worked out for you. All this was a pain for me but it made for a popular thread :-)
Last edited by Nopike; 11-13-2008 at 07:20 PM.
11-15-2008, 11:43 AM
#44
This is what happens when you don this mod on some Maxima's.
http://forums.maxima.org/4th-generat...ad-lights.html
http://forums.maxima.org/4th-generat...ad-lights.html
11-15-2008, 12:28 PM
#45
This is what happens when you don this mod on some Maxima's.
http://forums.maxima.org/4th-generat...ad-lights.html
http://forums.maxima.org/4th-generat...ad-lights.html
Quit instigating. You failed at a simple mod that others found beneficial. Get over it.
11-15-2008, 01:38 PM
#46
11-15-2008, 01:50 PM
#47
I may be an idiot and have failed on that mod but my headlight lens do not protrude. Failure is often a better teacher than success. Suit yourself. I'm only trying to help.
When you find the cause of your problem please make sure you let us all know.
Last edited by Nopike; 11-15-2008 at 01:56 PM.
11-16-2008, 08:42 PM
#51
I did the 9007 "upgrade" yes, it is better then the 9004's, which suck, my hid kit, still put out better light, and honestly, i think i got flashed less with my custom shielded hid kit, then i did with the 9007's.
But as previously stated, my porsche e-codes with the STI clear lens PWN any reflector setup..and IMO the maxima has the absolute worst lights out there..my ford rangers lights put WAY better light out and the high beam is way better..oh the "fog lights" are way better too..
Projectors < everything else.
But as previously stated, my porsche e-codes with the STI clear lens PWN any reflector setup..and IMO the maxima has the absolute worst lights out there..my ford rangers lights put WAY better light out and the high beam is way better..oh the "fog lights" are way better too..
Projectors < everything else.
11-16-2008, 08:50 PM
#52
I did the 9007 "upgrade" yes, it is better then the 9004's, which suck, my hid kit, still put out better light, and honestly, i think i got flashed less with my custom shielded hid kit, then i did with the 9007's.
But as previously stated, my porsche e-codes with the STI clear lens PWN any reflector setup..and IMO the maxima has the absolute worst lights out there..my ford rangers lights put WAY better light out and the high beam is way better..oh the "fog lights" are way better too..
Projectors > everything else.
But as previously stated, my porsche e-codes with the STI clear lens PWN any reflector setup..and IMO the maxima has the absolute worst lights out there..my ford rangers lights put WAY better light out and the high beam is way better..oh the "fog lights" are way better too..
Projectors > everything else.
11-16-2008, 09:11 PM
#53
I read on this site and others how you can easily convert your headlights from 9004 to 9007. There are also cables for sale to help you perform this mod.
I read that the 9007's are 20% higher wattage bulbs and have an improved beam patten, this all sounded good so I decided to try this mod using Silverstar Ultra's.
First of all this mod is not necessarily easy, second this is not necessarily an improvement.
When cutting or grinding the nubs in the housing so you can fit the 9007 bulbs, unless you are very careful ,you will get dust into the housing. Good luck getting it out.
If you try taking the bulb socket apart to change the wiring you will probably break them, old plastic tends to be brittle.
Be ready to take the battery out, possibly multiple times to get at the drivers side socket and to perform adjustments.
Once you install the 9007 bulbs you will find that The 9007s beam center is much higher and more scattered than the 9004s. Only extreme adjustment will get them down where they belong. If you do that your housing will no longer be flush with the hood and grill and it will look bad. I'm wondering if anyone has taken their Maxima for a professional adjustment after this mod.
Our headlight housing reflectors were designed by engineers to work properly with 9004 bulbs and not 9007. The 9004s put the beam on the road where it belongs, the 9007s scatter the beams all over the place. If you have the 9007's on your 4th gen Maxima you are probably blinding other drivers. I'm going to stick with the 9004's, the small amount of increased light is certainly not worth the effort.
I realize some of you will say you performed this mod and it was easy and came out perfect but I bet just as many will agree that this is one mod better left undone.
I read that the 9007's are 20% higher wattage bulbs and have an improved beam patten, this all sounded good so I decided to try this mod using Silverstar Ultra's.
First of all this mod is not necessarily easy, second this is not necessarily an improvement.
When cutting or grinding the nubs in the housing so you can fit the 9007 bulbs, unless you are very careful ,you will get dust into the housing. Good luck getting it out.
If you try taking the bulb socket apart to change the wiring you will probably break them, old plastic tends to be brittle.
Be ready to take the battery out, possibly multiple times to get at the drivers side socket and to perform adjustments.
Once you install the 9007 bulbs you will find that The 9007s beam center is much higher and more scattered than the 9004s. Only extreme adjustment will get them down where they belong. If you do that your housing will no longer be flush with the hood and grill and it will look bad. I'm wondering if anyone has taken their Maxima for a professional adjustment after this mod.
Our headlight housing reflectors were designed by engineers to work properly with 9004 bulbs and not 9007. The 9004s put the beam on the road where it belongs, the 9007s scatter the beams all over the place. If you have the 9007's on your 4th gen Maxima you are probably blinding other drivers. I'm going to stick with the 9004's, the small amount of increased light is certainly not worth the effort.
I realize some of you will say you performed this mod and it was easy and came out perfect but I bet just as many will agree that this is one mod better left undone.
11-17-2008, 11:49 PM
#54
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I am happy with my 9007 conversion. It was very easy to just pick out the stock plug, and I used a dremel on the bulbs base to cut slits for the nubs.
My lights were easy to align as well. Much better road coverage with the 9007's. 100% happy.
My lights were easy to align as well. Much better road coverage with the 9007's. 100% happy.
11-18-2008, 08:37 AM
#55
Well at least my thread is getting lots of attention. I'm not sure why this mod failed for me the lights were just too high and there was just no way I could get them near where they belong without major adjustment. I inserted the bulbs fully after grinding down the two bottom nubs of the housing, the clip that holds the light socket in place was at 12 oclock (is that the way it should be?). I could see if I installed one of them improperly but both lights were way too high.
I did not have any issues adjusting the 9004's back exactly wher they belong. Weird.
I did not have any issues adjusting the 9004's back exactly wher they belong. Weird.
11-30-2009, 12:47 AM
#56
Hi sorry for bringing up a old thread, but I have a quick question. Is it okay to just simply swap the wire, like just cut them leaving enough room to strip the wire twist them back together and then just tape it up?
I did some research and there are some people who are religiously saying SOLDER SOLDER SOLDER and some that are saying to use butt connectors because its way better.
I can change knock sensors, change a radiator, take apart a starter and put it back, but I can't swap two wires (The extent of my electrical knowledge is that red is positive and black is a ground and if you mix them up on a car battery you go boom).............. I know its sad
Oh and the reason I want to do this is because I am tired of my headlights disappearing as soon as another car comes towards me, most people now-a-days have HID and my headlights simply just disappears when a car is in front of me, leaving me basically blind because everything around my car looks black except for the glare of the car in front of me, and I live in a area without street lights and so its much much worse when its raining and ect. I have to travel like 25MPH in a 45 zone because I cannot see sometimes... sorry sob story over.
EDIT: And Nopike, I know your pain, I know EVERYONE has probably successfully painted their grill well... not me. I had to eventually buy one from Ebay because I used my grill as a learning experience and failed miserably. So now i learned that you need to primer before you paint any color especially white, there are some kinds of paint that do not mix, and that chrome paint is not really chrome.
I did some research and there are some people who are religiously saying SOLDER SOLDER SOLDER and some that are saying to use butt connectors because its way better.
I can change knock sensors, change a radiator, take apart a starter and put it back, but I can't swap two wires (The extent of my electrical knowledge is that red is positive and black is a ground and if you mix them up on a car battery you go boom).............. I know its sad
Oh and the reason I want to do this is because I am tired of my headlights disappearing as soon as another car comes towards me, most people now-a-days have HID and my headlights simply just disappears when a car is in front of me, leaving me basically blind because everything around my car looks black except for the glare of the car in front of me, and I live in a area without street lights and so its much much worse when its raining and ect. I have to travel like 25MPH in a 45 zone because I cannot see sometimes... sorry sob story over.
EDIT: And Nopike, I know your pain, I know EVERYONE has probably successfully painted their grill well... not me. I had to eventually buy one from Ebay because I used my grill as a learning experience and failed miserably. So now i learned that you need to primer before you paint any color especially white, there are some kinds of paint that do not mix, and that chrome paint is not really chrome.
Last edited by Leo_Koneval; 11-30-2009 at 12:53 AM.
11-30-2009, 01:53 AM
#58
Ah okay, one more dumb question, I like the idea of not having to cut any wires much more, so how do I go about taking the 9004 connector apart? I was looking at it today and didn't have the gut to figure it out by trial and error. So at the wire end there is a orange cap holding the wires together, would I just pop that off and the wires should come out?
I drive at night a ton and need bright headlights but I don't want to mess around trying to figure things out and lose a headlight because with two on full power I can barely make it by, but with one headlight out I think I might as well drive with them off hahahah
I drive at night a ton and need bright headlights but I don't want to mess around trying to figure things out and lose a headlight because with two on full power I can barely make it by, but with one headlight out I think I might as well drive with them off hahahah
11-30-2009, 02:10 AM
#59
Never mind I found a thread with pictures and instructions! Thankyou .org once again!
Thankyou Michael!!!!!!!
http://forums.maxima.org/3rd-generat...rade-pics.html
Thankyou Michael!!!!!!!
http://forums.maxima.org/3rd-generat...rade-pics.html
11-30-2009, 05:00 AM
#60
Oh and the reason I want to do this is because I am tired of my headlights disappearing as soon as another car comes towards me, most people now-a-days have HID and my headlights simply just disappears when a car is in front of me, leaving me basically blind because everything around my car looks black except for the glare of the car in front of me, and I live in a area without street lights and so its much much worse when its raining and ect. I have to travel like 25MPH in a 45 zone because I cannot see sometimes... sorry sob story over.
06-20-2010, 04:21 AM
#62
I just installed 80 watt 9004 bulbs instead of 9007 becuase i saw all the aiming issues and others. I had a bad headlight harness so i was looking for a solution and thought hmm good time to mod, almost did a 9007 conver then read this.... so instead i installed an upgraded harness (cut old out soldered in new) high temp harness and installed some 9004 offroad 80w headlights. They look great and no one flashes me thinking im highbeaming. VERY bright too!!! this is what i bought:
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/cat...oductId=767900
and
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ef=oss_product
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/cat...oductId=767900
and
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ef=oss_product
06-20-2010, 04:24 AM
#63
i also added these since i was already ordering sh**
replacements to the stock foglights:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ef=oss_product
replacements to the stock foglights:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ef=oss_product
06-20-2010, 09:23 AM
#65
I love my 9007 upgrade, much better light pattern vs. the stock 9004's.
Unless you replaced both bulbs around the same time then nevermind!
06-20-2010, 07:32 PM
#66
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,042
the maxima's don't have the worse...Chrysler does.
i did the 9007 mod on my 3rd and 4th gen.
if you guys use a sharp knife you can easily cut the stubs off on the housing.
i did'nt have to remove the battery on my car either.
what also helps if you remove that yellow crap off the lens.
and it was a shame the fogs were lighting up the road.
and it's still a ahame that my 91 q45 has better output of lighting up the road.
the mod does work and i've never gotten flashed. but i want hid's...
i did the 9007 mod on my 3rd and 4th gen.
if you guys use a sharp knife you can easily cut the stubs off on the housing.
i did'nt have to remove the battery on my car either.
what also helps if you remove that yellow crap off the lens.
and it was a shame the fogs were lighting up the road.
and it's still a ahame that my 91 q45 has better output of lighting up the road.
the mod does work and i've never gotten flashed. but i want hid's...
06-20-2010, 09:24 PM
#67
9007 are 55 watt mine are 80 watt plus they are designed to take 9004 bulb then refract the light better ill take some pics when i can. i didnt have to mod anything extra i needed the harness replaced anyways. i can go back to stock bulb anytime.
06-20-2010, 09:47 PM
#68
i had absolutely no problem with the swap on my i30. only problem i have is my ****ty wiring and every once in a while i gotta shake the wire a bit because i have a bad connection. too lazy to take it apart and fix it but they are brighter and nicer than the 9004's for sure.
06-20-2010, 09:55 PM
#69
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: lawrenceville GA
Posts: 151
Not worth the 9007 conversion yeah im sure it makes the output a little better but hids are the crap. ive had hids for months now never got flashed or anything they arent as bright as dramatic people say they are. Ive even had cops roll past me. I aimed a 9004 on one side and a hid on the other the focus was in the same exact position.
06-21-2010, 04:55 AM
#70
How are they designed to output the light differently? The filament and design of that 9004 looks just like any other 9004 bulb.
This is a 9004 vs. 9007
Oh, and BTW you can get 9007's in an 80/100 watt just like the 9004's you purchased.
http://www.amazon.com/Hella-HLA-H831...7120879&sr=1-1
06-21-2010, 06:55 AM
#71
9004 vs 9007 are dif that was the whole point of this mod. i did not want to mod everything to just have to play with my headlight alignment and still get flashed by other drivers. plus our headligh enclosure reflectors whatever its called is made to reflect 9004. now that i have 80w i have more than enough light on the road, this takes away the need to do so much more for what i didnt think would really benifit me. i did a similar conversion in my geo (single low beam two separate bulbs in that car) and i was never happy with how they pointed. i thought i would share this experience with the .org as a good alternative to the 9007. didnt realize id get beat up! lol i need to show you guys the pics it really does look amazing!
06-21-2010, 07:21 AM
#72
I read on this site and others how you can easily convert your headlights from 9004 to 9007. There are also cables for sale to help you perform this mod.
I read that the 9007's are 20% higher wattage bulbs and have an improved beam patten, this all sounded good so I decided to try this mod using Silverstar Ultra's.
First of all this mod is not necessarily easy, second this is not necessarily an improvement.
When cutting or grinding the nubs in the housing so you can fit the 9007 bulbs, unless you are very careful ,you will get dust into the housing. Good luck getting it out.
If you try taking the bulb socket apart to change the wiring you will probably break them, old plastic tends to be brittle.
Be ready to take the battery out, possibly multiple times to get at the drivers side socket and to perform adjustments.
Once you install the 9007 bulbs you will find that The 9007s beam center is much higher and more scattered than the 9004s. Only extreme adjustment will get them down where they belong. If you do that your housing will no longer be flush with the hood and grill and it will look bad. I'm wondering if anyone has taken their Maxima for a professional adjustment after this mod.
Our headlight housing reflectors were designed by engineers to work properly with 9004 bulbs and not 9007. The 9004s put the beam on the road where it belongs, the 9007s scatter the beams all over the place. If you have the 9007's on your 4th gen Maxima you are probably blinding other drivers. I'm going to stick with the 9004's, the small amount of increased light is certainly not worth the effort.
I realize some of you will say you performed this mod and it was easy and came out perfect but I bet just as many will agree that this is one mod better left undone.
I read that the 9007's are 20% higher wattage bulbs and have an improved beam patten, this all sounded good so I decided to try this mod using Silverstar Ultra's.
First of all this mod is not necessarily easy, second this is not necessarily an improvement.
When cutting or grinding the nubs in the housing so you can fit the 9007 bulbs, unless you are very careful ,you will get dust into the housing. Good luck getting it out.
If you try taking the bulb socket apart to change the wiring you will probably break them, old plastic tends to be brittle.
Be ready to take the battery out, possibly multiple times to get at the drivers side socket and to perform adjustments.
Once you install the 9007 bulbs you will find that The 9007s beam center is much higher and more scattered than the 9004s. Only extreme adjustment will get them down where they belong. If you do that your housing will no longer be flush with the hood and grill and it will look bad. I'm wondering if anyone has taken their Maxima for a professional adjustment after this mod.
Our headlight housing reflectors were designed by engineers to work properly with 9004 bulbs and not 9007. The 9004s put the beam on the road where it belongs, the 9007s scatter the beams all over the place. If you have the 9007's on your 4th gen Maxima you are probably blinding other drivers. I'm going to stick with the 9004's, the small amount of increased light is certainly not worth the effort.
I realize some of you will say you performed this mod and it was easy and came out perfect but I bet just as many will agree that this is one mod better left undone.
two points i agreed/was concerned with mostly:
Once you install the 9007 bulbs you will find that The 9007s beam center is much higher and more scattered than the 9004s. Only extreme adjustment will get them down where they belong. If you do that your housing will no longer be flush with the hood and grill and it will look bad. I'm wondering if anyone has taken their Maxima for a professional adjustment after this mod.
Our headlight housing reflectors were designed by engineers to work properly with 9004 bulbs and not 9007. The 9004s put the beam on the road where it belongs, the 9007s scatter the beams all over the place. If you have the 9007's on your 4th gen Maxima you are probably blinding other drivers. I'm going to stick with the 9004's, the small amount of increased light is certainly not worth the effort.
mostly #2 again i keep talking but dont have the pics to back it up i will take some as soon as this damn moon goes away lol!
i definatly have enough light i cant imagine having to do more work to mod and then point my headlights these droped right in. i dont sugest doing it without upgrading the harness tho. i needed to change my passanger side due to burned up ground
06-21-2010, 07:29 AM
#73
9004 vs 9007 are dif that was the whole point of this mod. i did not want to mod everything to just have to play with my headlight alignment and still get flashed by other drivers. plus our headligh enclosure reflectors whatever its called is made to reflect 9004. now that i have 80w i have more than enough light on the road, this takes away the need to do so much more for what i didnt think would really benifit me. i did a similar conversion in my geo (single low beam two separate bulbs in that car) and i was never happy with how they pointed. i thought i would share this experience with the .org as a good alternative to the 9007. didnt realize id get beat up! lol i need to show you guys the pics it really does look amazing!
Most of us did the higher wattage bulbs also before doing the 9007 mod.
The 9007 isnt perfect, but I still defend it having better output then the 9004s.
If you want the best output, projector retrofit.
06-21-2010, 07:34 AM
#74
two points i agreed/was concerned with mostly:
Once you install the 9007 bulbs you will find that The 9007s beam center is much higher and more scattered than the 9004s. Only extreme adjustment will get them down where they belong. If you do that your housing will no longer be flush with the hood and grill and it will look bad. I'm wondering if anyone has taken their Maxima for a professional adjustment after this mod.
Our headlight housing reflectors were designed by engineers to work properly with 9004 bulbs and not 9007. The 9004s put the beam on the road where it belongs, the 9007s scatter the beams all over the place. If you have the 9007's on your 4th gen Maxima you are probably blinding other drivers. I'm going to stick with the 9004's, the small amount of increased light is certainly not worth the effort.
mostly #2 again i keep talking but dont have the pics to back it up i will take some as soon as this damn moon goes away lol!
i definatly have enough light i cant imagine having to do more work to mod and then point my headlights these droped right in. i dont sugest doing it without upgrading the harness tho. i needed to change my passanger side due to burned up ground
Once you install the 9007 bulbs you will find that The 9007s beam center is much higher and more scattered than the 9004s. Only extreme adjustment will get them down where they belong. If you do that your housing will no longer be flush with the hood and grill and it will look bad. I'm wondering if anyone has taken their Maxima for a professional adjustment after this mod.
Our headlight housing reflectors were designed by engineers to work properly with 9004 bulbs and not 9007. The 9004s put the beam on the road where it belongs, the 9007s scatter the beams all over the place. If you have the 9007's on your 4th gen Maxima you are probably blinding other drivers. I'm going to stick with the 9004's, the small amount of increased light is certainly not worth the effort.
mostly #2 again i keep talking but dont have the pics to back it up i will take some as soon as this damn moon goes away lol!
i definatly have enough light i cant imagine having to do more work to mod and then point my headlights these droped right in. i dont sugest doing it without upgrading the harness tho. i needed to change my passanger side due to burned up ground
Or ar you still going by what others have posted?
Most havent had any aiming issues.
06-21-2010, 08:27 AM
#75
i did not see anyone post that they had 80/100 watt bulbs only that 9004=45/65 and 9007=55/65 so i thought why not 80/100 + less work. you are saying 55/65 9007 are still brighter than my 80/100's?
Last edited by Br0nz; 06-21-2010 at 08:32 AM.
06-22-2010, 08:20 PM
#78
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