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Old 09-15-2011, 08:15 AM   #1
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4th gen interior LED write up (some 98-99 specific stuff, most is general 4th gen)

Thought I would make this thread, as Ive got a ton of PM's asking me what LED's I have, and where I got them. The majority of the LED's I have came from ebay, and at from there they came from China. They are relatively cheap at just a few dollars each ($1-$3 each).

MAP: I used one(1) 20 SMD panel [some cars have two(2) map lights, with these you would need two small panels (one for each light) the panel's would need to be around a 9 SMD each]. I purchased the 20 SMD panel a few months ago, and have not been able to find them for cheap lately, they've all been around $10 (F that). If I had to get a new panel for my map and couldnt find a 20 SMD piece I would go with a 12 instead. This is what I used in my map light. LINK. I dont have any pics of just the MAP light right now (had to send my camera to Canon for repair). But when you order it be sure to get the one with the BLACK connector piece's. Also, once you receive the MAP panel, when you plug it directly in it will not work. Something about the way the MAP is wired, but you will need to switch connector around from the BA9S plug and the panel...like this
P>>>N
N>>>P

Instead of plugging them up like normal


DOME: I used one(1) 36 SMD panel. Unlike the above, the DOME IS plug and play. Connect the BLACK connectors in the normal manner (P to P, N to N). Once you put the festoon connector in the DOME socket if it does not work, simply pull the festoon out and flip it around. This is what I used for the DOME LINK and here is a pic of the DOME lit up
(sorry for the junky car, it was cold and hadnt been cleaned recently)


Door courtesy lights: I used one(1) 12 SMD panel per door. You will need to use the included T10 adapter and they will plug up like normal (P to P, N to N). As stated above in the DOME section, when you plug the T10 connector in to the door light socket if it does not work flip the connector over..the plug is polarized and will only work one way. This is what I used for the doors LINK and here is a pic of the door courtesy light lit up



License plate lights: I used 2(two) T10 6 SMD bulbs [one for each light]. As stated above, when you plug the bulb in if it doesnt work flip it over..its polarized and will only work one way. These are what I used http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-T10...#ht_1839wt_837 and here is a picture of them lit up


Gauge Cluster lights: NOTE: THESE ARE ONLY FOR THE 98-99 DIGITAL CLUSTER, IM NOT POSITIVE WHAT THE 95-97 CLUSTER USES. I used 5(five) of these bulbs [four for the main lights, and one for the odometer]. As stated above, they are polarized and only work one way so if they dont work the first time flip the around. I used the NEOx-xHP 5mm bulbs LINK.

STEPS TO CHANGE THE GAUGE CLUSTER BULBS
1. Remove the knee bolster from under the steering wheel (two screws will need to be removed, the fuse panel cover, and one electrical connector once you pull the knee bolster down)
2. Remove the steering column cover (There are 4 screws that are accessible from the bottom of the cover)
2.5. Now open the lever on the driver side of the steering column so that you can lower the column down as far as it will go.
3. Remove the gauge cluster trim CAREFULLY SO AS NOT TO BREAK IT (there are two screws on the top of the bezel and 3 electrical connectors which need to be "un-clipped" in order to remove the bezel)
4. Next, there are 4 screws that hold the cluster in place. Remove those screws
5. Next, slide the cluster out. There are 3 electrical plugs in the back of the cluster that will need to be "un-clipped"
6. Once the plugs are "un-clipped" pull the cluster out and you will see the 4 main bulbs on the back side (pic below)
7. Now, remove the 4 main bulbs and the odometer bulbs and put the 5(five) Neo-5 bulbs in the cluster.
8. Take the cluster back to your car and connect the electrical plugs in the back and plug the dimmer switch (on the bezel) back up and test your cluster bulbs
9. If any of your bulbs are not working you will need to turn them around, as they are polarized and will only work in one direction
10. Once all 4 bulbs are working, re-assemble everything and enjoy what you have accomplished


Cool White bulbs shown below

Red bulbs shown below *odometer bulb is not installed here, they only had 4 bulbs instock at the time


^^^^^AGAIN THESE CLUSTER BULBS ARE 98-99 ONLY^^^^^

For 95-97 cars you can use these
Bulb size is 194/T10
WLED Miniature Wedge Base bulbs
Output pics (courtesy of Mayur914)


99 ACC w/ AMB button When changing these bulbs..NOTE that they are polarized and will only work in one direction (before assembling everything back together test the ACC by turning the parking lights on). You will need 4(four) NEO4-x (I recommend the HP(high powered) bulbs whenever using these.

To gain access to change these bulbs you will need to;
1. Remove the waterfall section (shifter trim, AC vents and radio/ACC unit)
2. Remove the ACC by disconnecting the two grey plugs, one white plug and the hose that is attached and the 4 screws holding the ACC in the radio brackets
3. Once the ACC is removed, you will need to remove the faceplate (attached with clips) from the unit. At this time you can also clean the display face and plastic lens. There are also 4 silver screws around the edge that will need to be removed.
4. Once the faceplate is off, separate the two pieces off the ACC by un-clipping the plastic clips. Pull the two pieces apart carefully
5. You will now have the face and back, the face will have an electric circuit board on the back with 4 twist lock bulbs.
6. Put your new bulbs in
7. Reassemble the ACC unit and take back to car
8. Before putting the unit back into the brackets connect the 3 electrical connections and test the ACC to make sure your lights are all working (if any of them are not working you will have to take the ACC apart again and turn the bulbs around
9. Once all 4 bulbs are working, re-assemble everything and enjoy what you have accomplished
(NOTE: the hot spots arent that bad, I had to use a somewhat high ISO to take the pic without a tripod)


Vanity Mirror LED's
I will have to confirm that these fit 95-97 cars (Im pretty sure they do)
Here are the LED's I ordered (31mm Vanity mirror bulbs...xenon white)
http://www.wardenjp.com/stores/festoon.html
You can also get NEO-x bulbs from this site as well ($2.80 for two pieces)
http://www.wardenjp.com/stores/neowedge.html

How to install.
1.) drop down the sunvisor and open the mirror
2.) pry the plastic lens off of the bulb socket (insert flat object into the top between the lens and the visor, and twist)
3.) remove bulb and place in new LED bulb (bulb is polarized and only works in one direction)
4.) When finished re-install bulb cover lens

And here are the pics
LED on the right, OEM on the left......pinky up like a boss

FIN


If anybody feels I should add anything to this let me know. I will add more pics (MAP, and how to get to each bulb to change it).

Disclaimer: I am not responsible for any damages that may occur during this mod. If you don't know what you're doing, DON'T TRY IT. Use the write-up at your own risk!

DESCRIPTION OF EVERYTHING USED
MAP--- 20 SMD LED Panel ($2 on ebay)
DOME--- 36 SMD LED Panel ($3 on ebay)
Door Courtesy Lights--- 12 SMD LED Panel ($2 each EBAY)
License Plate Bulbs--- T10 6 SMD LED Bulbs ($1 each EBAY)
Cluster Bulbs--- NEO5-x bulbs ($2.29 each superbrightleds.com)
ACC Bulbs--- NEO4-x bulbs ($2.29 each superbrightleds.com)
Vanity Mirror Bulbs--- 31mm Vanity 3 SMD LED bulb xenon white ($2.49 each http://www.wardenjp.com/stores/festoon.html)

Other helpful 4th gen LED threads

The LED Light Picture Thread -Interior-
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Old 09-15-2011, 11:09 AM   #2
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Thanks for the info!

One thing I noticed, you said that you cant find any cheap 20 smd panels, but you linked to a $3 20 smd panel.
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Old 09-15-2011, 11:23 AM   #3
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Thanks for the info!

One thing I noticed, you said that you cant find any cheap 20 smd panels, but you linked to a $3 20 smd panel.
i couldnt find any for a few months, hence what i said. and then when i went to ebay they were there
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Good write up. Yes the same neo5 bulbs work for analog cluster, im using them.
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Old 09-15-2011, 11:31 AM   #5
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ive tried in my cousins car and they did NOT fit
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that look good sharkman.

I bought plug and play LEDs. the doors were like 5 SMD. The dome was like 4. Not as bright as yours but all white.
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Wow a year ago we had to solder and melt all this together now we can just buy plug and play from eBay hecka cheap lol thanks for the links and the pointer now I sit and patiently wait for the arrival of my LED'S ^_^
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Are those pics of the dash with the interior lights turned all the way up? What does it look like if you dim them a bit?
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Are those pics of the dash with the interior lights turned all the way up? What does it look like if you dim them a bit?
yes those are full brightness, if you dim them a bit its going to dim the bulbs a bit......


I no longer have the cool white bulbs in my car, im rocking red now. New theme for the car....Red panda LOL
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Good write up. Yes the same neo5 bulbs work for analog cluster, im using them.
I have to disagree with you on this, I bought the neo5 bulbs for my 96 analog cluster an they didn't fit, they were to small. They worked for all the warning lights but not the speedo,tach,fuel ect. The neo5's I had were half the size as what was in my car from factory.


Sharky, have you tried LEDs in the sunvisors? I think that's the only thing you don't have LEDs in lol but you could be way ahead of me already lol
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I know where to get them just waiting on someone to buy my cluster so I have the money
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Nice writeup, I'm getting some 20SMD panels in stock in a few weeks, they look awesome!
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Nice writeup, I'm getting some 20SMD panels in stock in a few weeks, they look awesome!
yes they do, i get tons of compliments from random car peeps when I open my doors and the door and dome lights come on
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does anyone know if we can replace those for the 97 cluster and if so which ones? i love the write up im ordering the rest just wanna find out what the pn# or link....'preciate it lol
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does anyone know if we can replace those for the 97 cluster and if so which ones? i love the write up im ordering the rest just wanna find out what the pn# or link....'preciate it lol
Im not positive on what the 95-97 cluster uses (hopefully will have a positive answer in a few weeks) but you can search and find the answer
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Here's a link I found for the 95-97 clusters

http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-b...Fwled-whp6.htm

Ima be ordering these in a week or so, I'll post pics when completed
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Here's a link I found for the 95-97 clusters

http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-b...Fwled-whp6.htm

Ima be ordering these in a week or so, I'll post pics when completed
If 194 bulbs do work, you can buy T10 6-smd bulbs on ebay for $1 each
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Oh nice ima have to look into that thanks for the tip!
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Oh nice ima have to look into that thanks for the tip!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/10-X-...#ht_1835wt_939
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that one has 120 degrees light pattern. do you have that installed?

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that one has 120 degrees light pattern. do you have that installed?
yes, I have two in my license plate lights. and NO I dont have them in my gauges, re-read the thread
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yes, I have two in my license plate lights. and NO I dont have them in my gauges, re-read the thread
Is the license plate light setup the same for the 97? Two bulbs?
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Is the license plate light setup the same for the 97? Two bulbs?
I have no idea, get under there and take a look. Im willing to put $5 its the same though
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this is so awsome
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I will try to get some pics tomorrow for a better how to, just got my camera back
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Is the license plate light setup the same for the 97? Two bulbs?
yes there the same 194 bulb size
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Did as followed and got the exact same cool white dash lights, looks great!

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love the way these lights work. got mine installed and its a word of difference.. the map light is damn near blinding though.. not the best idea to have on while driving... lol. but they look great at night.
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i did all blue led's on my interior, dash, hazard/defroster, climate control, dome, map, door lights, and foot wells, and trunk, i gotta put pics up. still need to do the window switches but idk bout soldering, never done it before
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if you did you hazard/defroster you had to solder those lights in.
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Can you please take a picture of the dome light and map light in the day time ? Will the LED panel go inside the dome/map light casing, or do we need to glue them to the outside ?
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if you did you hazard/defroster you had to solder those lights in.
No you don't. You can reuse the little rubber thing inside the switches. Not the easiest way to do it, but it can be done that way.
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No you don't. You can reuse the little rubber thing inside the switches. Not the easiest way to do it, but it can be done that way.

Im sure the ORG would love to know what kind bulbs you used, seeing how I can't find a single thread about P&P hazard LED's but found a number of soldered in LED threads

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i look a little video of some of my leds the shifer u cant realy see to well in the video and i forgot to open the ashtray also the video does my gauges no justice i need a new climate controle mine has a huge crack in it but ive got other things to worry about
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Can you please take a picture of the dome light and map light in the day time ? Will the LED panel go inside the dome/map light casing, or do we need to glue them to the outside ?
They go inside the lens just like a normal bulb would. I would take some pics right now BUT im not feeling that great from this recent brain surgery.
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i want to see the under side of that switch were the resistor is connected also what are u using for a resistor ?
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It's not hard basically solder postive side of led and negative part
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