That K&N really worth it?
04-19-2008, 01:32 PM
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Soo guys help me out here. I ordered a Jim Wolf Technology POP Charger kit (just the intake cone filter) that requires that you remove Air Box. Last night I went to the Catman website and I discoverd they have full intake kits for my 91. Including tubing and your choice of a JWT cone, or a Monster Flow one?? Anyone recommend whats better for me sound and performance?
04-19-2008, 02:49 PM
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i have a 93 maxima se. i'm trying to put the k&n in but i am having a heck of time trying to remove the old air filter and put in the k&n. i think i'm missing something obvious or is it really difficult? the autozone repair page makes it look easy, but i think the second picture in that guide is wrong. anyway if you guys can help a brother out i would appreciate it. thanks.
04-19-2008, 02:59 PM
#43
a hood scoop placement? probably right above the stock intake location?
reminder, you will need to make both the air box and scoop custom, since nobody makes one(or if you can find a box/scoop for another car, and mod it to fit)
04-19-2008, 03:13 PM
#44
i have a 93 maxima se. i'm trying to put the k&n in but i am having a heck of time trying to remove the old air filter and put in the k&n. i think i'm missing something obvious or is it really difficult? the autozone repair page makes it look easy, but i think the second picture in that guide is wrong. anyway if you guys can help a brother out i would appreciate it. thanks.
the one i got fit perfectly into the box.
04-19-2008, 03:37 PM
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04-19-2008, 03:50 PM
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thanks for your quick responses. i actually had trouble lifting the top piece enough for the old filter to be removed. so, i unscrewed the 6 bolts from the top portion where it connects to the MAF(?) and lower portion bracket. i then loosened the MAF and took it out so i could just plain remove the top part of the filter housing. i did an oil change and air filter change and it took me an hour and a half of cursing to get that air filter housing off. i am so glad i don't have to change that filter again. seriously, after taking the 4 spring clips off it had almost no play for me to remove the old air filter.
04-19-2008, 03:57 PM
#47
thanks for your quick responses. i actually had trouble lifting the top piece enough for the old filter to be removed. so, i unscrewed the 6 bolts from the top portion where it connects to the MAF(?) and lower portion bracket. i then loosened the MAF and took it out so i could just plain remove the top part of the filter housing. i did an oil change and air filter change and it took me an hour and a half of cursing to get that air filter housing off. i am so glad i don't have to change that filter again. seriously, after taking the 4 spring clips off it had almost no play for me to remove the old air filter.
04-19-2008, 04:03 PM
#48
thanks for your quick responses. i actually had trouble lifting the top piece enough for the old filter to be removed. so, i unscrewed the 6 bolts from the top portion where it connects to the MAF(?) and lower portion bracket. i then loosened the MAF and took it out so i could just plain remove the top part of the filter housing. i did an oil change and air filter change and it took me an hour and a half of cursing to get that air filter housing off. i am so glad i don't have to change that filter again. seriously, after taking the 4 spring clips off it had almost no play for me to remove the old air filter.
04-19-2008, 10:15 PM
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04-20-2008, 09:21 AM
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Only if intake is faulty fixing that fault helps to reduce causes...
Start replacing crap (?) cap, wires, rotor TPS etc ... see p. 10, 12, 14 etc
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/748507/12
Only if intake is faulty fixing that fault helps to reduce causes...
Start replacing crap (?) cap, wires, rotor TPS etc ... see p. 10, 12, 14 etc
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/748507/12
04-20-2008, 03:36 PM
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04-21-2008, 01:40 AM
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Soo guys help me out here. I ordered a Jim Wolf Technology POP Charger kit (just the intake cone filter) that requires that you remove Air Box. Last night I went to the Catman website and I discoverd they have full intake kits for my 91. Including tubing and your choice of a JWT cone, or a Monster Flow one?? Anyone recommend whats better for me sound and performance?
04-21-2008, 10:26 PM
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damn... this thread is still around?
well you're mainly going to get a lot of sound, but very little performance no matter what you go with. A full TURE CAI intake will only do you any good while at idle. unless Mr. Gone has done some other test that I haven't read yet.
I seem to recall my intake being louder at full throttle with my filter and stock tube, than with my mandrel pipe and filter. But the hiss of the air being sucked in at idle is more pronounced with the mandrel pipe.
But when cruising down the highway, you're not going to see much of a difference between a CAI and HAI in terms of performance.
well you're mainly going to get a lot of sound, but very little performance no matter what you go with. A full TURE CAI intake will only do you any good while at idle. unless Mr. Gone has done some other test that I haven't read yet.
I seem to recall my intake being louder at full throttle with my filter and stock tube, than with my mandrel pipe and filter. But the hiss of the air being sucked in at idle is more pronounced with the mandrel pipe.
But when cruising down the highway, you're not going to see much of a difference between a CAI and HAI in terms of performance.
04-21-2008, 10:43 PM
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The stock box is a confuzean tech marvel: the top cover air volume is too low, intake tube opening too near the filter. Sucked air dust makes the air suck hole 'picture' on the filter. This means only 10% filter area is really used. Implication is bad choking filtering system... 'Smtg' has to be done on both sides of the stock filter.
04-21-2008, 10:58 PM
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The stock box is a confuzean tech marvel: the top cover air volume is too low, intake tube opening too near the filter. Sucked air dust makes the air suck hole 'picture' on the filter. This means only 10% filter area is really used. Implication is bad choking filtering system... 'Smtg' has to be done on both sides of the stock filter.
04-21-2008, 11:17 PM
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Cone filter is a solution.
Why not for me:
I want to see an enclosure around my filter. Neither does the escaped intake noise tend but only the drivers ego (my ego is already too big). Also all 80yr old will turn to look at WOT (the only trumpet they can hear
I just added one inch plastic 'shim'. This raises the top cover 30mm from filter surface. Butt dyno registers a boost; I am confident that the dust ring wont appear, but whole filter surface is now more uniformly used. This means less restriction.
Test shim increasing filter/---/air input distance, filtered air volume:
Why not for me:
I want to see an enclosure around my filter. Neither does the escaped intake noise tend but only the drivers ego (my ego is already too big). Also all 80yr old will turn to look at WOT (the only trumpet they can hear
I just added one inch plastic 'shim'. This raises the top cover 30mm from filter surface. Butt dyno registers a boost; I am confident that the dust ring wont appear, but whole filter surface is now more uniformly used. This means less restriction.
Test shim increasing filter/---/air input distance, filtered air volume:
Last edited by Wiking; 04-21-2008 at 11:45 PM.
04-22-2008, 07:24 AM
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Agreed. I installed a KN OEM style and didnt notice a damn thing. Then I cut and drilled the factory airbox and noticed some power on the 'butt dyno' and it sounded way mean even with broken studs. Then I installed a cone filter and didnt notice any increase of power over the ghetto airbox "mod" but it did sound even cooler. If I were to do it all again, I would get a MAF bracket and a cone filter. FYI this all applies to the VG which will never sound as bada$$ as a VQ with the same cone filter. Havent heard a NA VE30DE to compare too.
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