**Gauging Interest: V1 Supercharger Starter Kit for 3.5 Ltr. Motor**
01-22-2007, 07:51 PM
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Im working on it guys...Im going to make some contacts over the next few days, make some orders and I will be going through with first production of a plate. It will be slow from the start but I should have something soon for fitting and testing.
Sorry for leaving you guys hanging. Been busy with my New job and Family and gf.
Thanks guys
Sorry for leaving you guys hanging. Been busy with my New job and Family and gf.
Thanks guys
01-25-2007, 06:25 PM
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I need some input. Im putting some things together and talking to my guy, and I have some questions...
1) The Oil Cooler line that runs from the 3.5 Thermostat housing to the oil pan, how critical is that ?? I mean, can you remove that totally with no ill effects ?? Obviously I would have a good weld on the stock thermostat housing that would come with the kit, then on the other side of that hose on the motor, you would need to cap it with a 10mm bolt and some thread locker. Lemme know what you think about doing away with that line and the ill effects if any ??
2) Guys with the electical box next to the timing case, you will need to see if you can up-route that and move it to a different location. Ive been looking over everything and theres no way my kit will work with that block box there.
There are also power steering lines that are not as big of a deal as that box.
1) The Oil Cooler line that runs from the 3.5 Thermostat housing to the oil pan, how critical is that ?? I mean, can you remove that totally with no ill effects ?? Obviously I would have a good weld on the stock thermostat housing that would come with the kit, then on the other side of that hose on the motor, you would need to cap it with a 10mm bolt and some thread locker. Lemme know what you think about doing away with that line and the ill effects if any ??
2) Guys with the electical box next to the timing case, you will need to see if you can up-route that and move it to a different location. Ive been looking over everything and theres no way my kit will work with that block box there.
There are also power steering lines that are not as big of a deal as that box.
01-30-2007, 08:16 PM
#84
Originally Posted by matty
2) Guys with the electical box next to the timing case, you will need to see if you can up-route that and move it to a different location. Ive been looking over everything and theres no way my kit will work with that block box there.
There are also power steering lines that are not as big of a deal as that box.
There are also power steering lines that are not as big of a deal as that box.
01-30-2007, 08:34 PM
#85
Originally Posted by BLK2BLU
There is that much of a difference in the 3.5 and the 3.0L? Looks like the 3.0 is a tight fit tho.
the 6th gen will have more problems with this kit...becuz of their new engine bay setup...the 5th gen ALREADY has a s/c kit out...its only the 5.5 gen that doesn't exist...its main reason is due to the VTC getting in the way...
01-30-2007, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by steven88
the biggest difference is the VTCs on the 3.5L...everything else is nearly identical in terms of coolant reservoir location...fuse boxes...etc...i'm talking bout the 5 and 5.5 gen that is
the 6th gen will have more problems with this kit...becuz of their new engine bay setup...the 5th gen ALREADY has a s/c kit out...its only the 5.5 gen that doesn't exist...its main reason is due to the VTC getting in the way...
the 6th gen will have more problems with this kit...becuz of their new engine bay setup...the 5th gen ALREADY has a s/c kit out...its only the 5.5 gen that doesn't exist...its main reason is due to the VTC getting in the way...
I forgot about the 6th gen ppl (sorry guys) so caught up in getting one for my 5.5
02-01-2007, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by matty
1) The Oil Cooler line that runs from the 3.5 Thermostat housing to the oil pan, how critical is that ?? I mean, can you remove that totally with no ill effects ?? Obviously I would have a good weld on the stock thermostat housing that would come with the kit, then on the other side of that hose on the motor, you would need to cap it with a 10mm bolt and some thread locker. Lemme know what you think about doing away with that line and the ill effects if any ??
-matt
02-02-2007, 01:37 AM
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dont put my on the list, but i want you to know im interested and when the time comes, probly 2+ years, i will buy this. thats if my max hasnt been totalled, the 5.5s are going fast lately. anyway, another interested but short on funds here.
02-06-2007, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by matty
1) The Oil Cooler line that runs from the 3.5 Thermostat housing to the oil pan, how critical is that ?? I mean, can you remove that totally with no ill effects ?? Obviously I would have a good weld on the stock thermostat housing that would come with the kit, then on the other side of that hose on the motor, you would need to cap it with a 10mm bolt and some thread locker. Lemme know what you think about doing away with that line and the ill effects if any??
02-24-2007, 07:39 PM
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The reason why I am trying to build a kit that puts the Vortech blower on the Pass side of the motor is because the Vortech units are fairly easy to come back and arent a fortune. Other units, like the Roots Type blower shown above, are $$, hard to come by, and include many variables for the install.
-matt
-matt
03-08-2007, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by matty
Still working on it in my mind 
Im starting my new job come first of the year so I will have some time to start looking over things and see if its feezable.
Right now with the holidays and such, its kinda hard for me to find any time.
I will keep you guys posted on this. If it possible to produce these, I will have one made and start contacting people for a test car where I will mount the blower, run it, run oil through it, with NO boost put to the motor. After running it for a bit I will have an idea of belt alignment but that will all be done before that day so it should all line up no problem.
-Matt
Im starting my new job come first of the year so I will have some time to start looking over things and see if its feezable.
Right now with the holidays and such, its kinda hard for me to find any time.
I will keep you guys posted on this. If it possible to produce these, I will have one made and start contacting people for a test car where I will mount the blower, run it, run oil through it, with NO boost put to the motor. After running it for a bit I will have an idea of belt alignment but that will all be done before that day so it should all line up no problem.
-Matt
03-08-2007, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Han
I'd be interested in adding V2 to my 3.5L...Put me down.
-matt
03-08-2007, 07:24 PM
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Not to beat a dead horse but,
Using the 3.0 timing on the 6th Gen won't work because there appears to be other stuff in the way?
Using the 3.0 timing on the 6th Gen won't work because there appears to be other stuff in the way?
03-08-2007, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by AllBlackMax
Not to beat a dead horse but,
Using the 3.0 timing on the 6th Gen won't work because there appears to be other stuff in the way?
Using the 3.0 timing on the 6th Gen won't work because there appears to be other stuff in the way?
I am working on kit that will fit over the 3.5 timing cover.
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03-08-2007, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by matty
He has a 3.5 ltr motor in his 3.0 motor car. Meaning hes using the 3.0 timing equipment.
I am working on kit that will fit over the 3.5 timing cover.
-matt
I am working on kit that will fit over the 3.5 timing cover.
-matt
03-21-2007, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by AllBlackMax
Well, we're still counting on you Matt.
04-27-2007, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by matty
Wheels are in motion guys...Give me some time
-matt
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05-02-2007, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by matty
Wheels are in motion guys...Give me some time
-matt
-matt
glad to hear it! If i keep my maxima (since the guy who bought it backed out) there is a 100% chance I am going to boost that sucker until it blows So Matty will be king when this is done
05-29-2007, 04:26 AM
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I sent out a few peliminary PMs to guys to try and get this rolling.
I still need to know
1) The Oil Cooler (coolant) line that runs from the 3.5 Thermostat housing to the oil pan, how critical is that ??
I mean, can you remove that totally with no ill effects ?? Obviously I would have a good weld on the stock thermostat housing that would come with the kit, then on the other side of that hose on the motor, you would need to cap it with a 10mm bolt and some thread locker. Lemme know what you think about doing away with that line and the ill effects if any ??
Im throwing around the idea of using a three ltr thermostat housing, and doing away with Coolant line going from the thermostat to the lower motor. Is that line even needed at all ?? The 3.5 ltr thermostat cant be modified do to a very long shaft on the 3.5 thermostat. They are the same part, just longer shaft
Guys that recieved the PM, please contact me back.
-matt
I still need to know
1) The Oil Cooler (coolant) line that runs from the 3.5 Thermostat housing to the oil pan, how critical is that ??
I mean, can you remove that totally with no ill effects ?? Obviously I would have a good weld on the stock thermostat housing that would come with the kit, then on the other side of that hose on the motor, you would need to cap it with a 10mm bolt and some thread locker. Lemme know what you think about doing away with that line and the ill effects if any ??
Im throwing around the idea of using a three ltr thermostat housing, and doing away with Coolant line going from the thermostat to the lower motor. Is that line even needed at all ?? The 3.5 ltr thermostat cant be modified do to a very long shaft on the 3.5 thermostat. They are the same part, just longer shaft
Guys that recieved the PM, please contact me back.
-matt
06-04-2007, 09:22 PM
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Can anyone give me an answer on the extra line coming out of the Thermostat ??
Will everyone be heart broken if this kit Eliminates that Cooling line. It really cant do much if you ask me
-matt
Will everyone be heart broken if this kit Eliminates that Cooling line. It really cant do much if you ask me
-matt
06-05-2007, 05:22 PM
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Post this question in the 6th Gen forum. There should be some savy guys there.
Originally Posted by matty
Can anyone give me an answer on the extra line coming out of the Thermostat ??
Will everyone be heart broken if this kit Eliminates that Cooling line. It really cant do much if you ask me
-matt
Will everyone be heart broken if this kit Eliminates that Cooling line. It really cant do much if you ask me
-matt
06-05-2007, 05:27 PM
#116
Originally Posted by matty
Can anyone give me an answer on the extra line coming out of the Thermostat ??
Will everyone be heart broken if this kit Eliminates that Cooling line. It really cant do much if you ask me
-matt
Will everyone be heart broken if this kit Eliminates that Cooling line. It really cant do much if you ask me
-matt
06-05-2007, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by AllBlackMax
Post this question in the 6th Gen forum. There should be some savy guys there.
06-05-2007, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by matty
Can anyone give me an answer on the extra line coming out of the Thermostat ??
Will everyone be heart broken if this kit Eliminates that Cooling line. It really cant do much if you ask me
-matt
Will everyone be heart broken if this kit Eliminates that Cooling line. It really cant do much if you ask me
-matt
Travis
06-05-2007, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboS13Hatch
We eliminate the oil "warmer" as I like to call it, when we do VQ35 swaps into the B15 chassis.. I have done at least a dozen, and have observed no ill effects.. Worst case scenario.. if you want to be **** about oil cooling.. you could run a remote oil cooler using about 200 bucks in parts..
Travis
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Yes it's that too. Which is why I normally refer to it as the heat exchanger.
I don't doubt you've seen any ill effects, as it would be difficult to prove anything without monitoring the oil temp. But everyone should be aware the cold oil is just as bad as hot oil. So it isn't all about keeping the oil cool as much as keeping the temperature stable. The 170-185* VQ35 thermostats are most likely the ideal temperature for the recommended 5w-30 motor oil.
So will it hurt to be removed? Most likely not, especially since the VQ30 runs just fine without the thing. But I personally would choose to keep it. I've always liked the idea of having the oil temperature rise quicker from a cold start. If that is really how it works out in the real world.