for those looking for turbo piping
09-08-2005, 01:57 AM
#1
for those looking for turbo piping
it seems like more and more people are interested in turbo piping lately. so here goes..
i am building a piping kit right now.
a brief discription of what you'll get..
(everything is subject to change)
stage one: (price to be determined)
SS and tig welded 2" forward y-pipe
SS and tig welded 3" downpipe
standard tial/turbonetics wastegate flanges welded on
SS tig welded turbo cold air intake with MAF sensor housing flange attached (optional polishing or powder coating)
SS tig welded charge tube that goes from the turbo to the throttle body *low boost only* (optional polishing or powder coating)
stage 2: (price to be determined)
SS and tig welded 2.5" forward y-pipe
SS and tig welded 3" downpipe
standard tial/turbonetics wastegate flanges welded on
SS tig welded turbo cold air intake with MAF sensor housing flange attached (optional polishing or powder coating)
ss tig welded intercooler piping (optional polishing or powder coating)
all kits will come with the standard t3 flange welded on unless you specify in your order what turbo size you are running.
Minimal welds, everything is mandrel bent, compound bends can not be made with a mandrel bender so that's where the tig welding comes in. less peices to weld means better flow and increased strength. i am only using SS piping, mild steel would not be an option because i believe in delivering quality. All peices can be ceramic coated for an additional fee.
I'm selling a pipe kit because i understand that many of you want to run your own turbine specs and different sized intercoolers, oil feed/return lines and what not. by me selling just the pipes, you have the flexibility of buying exactly the parts you want and not only what i can offer.
the price of everything is being worked out with my manufacture right now.. i'm trying to keep the price as low as possible without cutting corners.
the place that is building the kit wants to stay anonymous, but they have been around for a few decades and have been building quality exhaust parts. they specialize in building exhaust componants for various makes and models.
this is a sneak peak of what is to come within' these few weeks. i will be taking orders shortly after these pipes are tested on a 5spd 5th gen, auto 5th gen, 5spd 4th gen and an auto 4th gen, and also the 5.5th gen autos and 6spds. pictures will come fairly soon. sit tight.
i am building a piping kit right now.
a brief discription of what you'll get..
(everything is subject to change)
stage one: (price to be determined)
SS and tig welded 2" forward y-pipe
SS and tig welded 3" downpipe
standard tial/turbonetics wastegate flanges welded on
SS tig welded turbo cold air intake with MAF sensor housing flange attached (optional polishing or powder coating)
SS tig welded charge tube that goes from the turbo to the throttle body *low boost only* (optional polishing or powder coating)
stage 2: (price to be determined)
SS and tig welded 2.5" forward y-pipe
SS and tig welded 3" downpipe
standard tial/turbonetics wastegate flanges welded on
SS tig welded turbo cold air intake with MAF sensor housing flange attached (optional polishing or powder coating)
ss tig welded intercooler piping (optional polishing or powder coating)
all kits will come with the standard t3 flange welded on unless you specify in your order what turbo size you are running.
Minimal welds, everything is mandrel bent, compound bends can not be made with a mandrel bender so that's where the tig welding comes in. less peices to weld means better flow and increased strength. i am only using SS piping, mild steel would not be an option because i believe in delivering quality. All peices can be ceramic coated for an additional fee.
I'm selling a pipe kit because i understand that many of you want to run your own turbine specs and different sized intercoolers, oil feed/return lines and what not. by me selling just the pipes, you have the flexibility of buying exactly the parts you want and not only what i can offer.
the price of everything is being worked out with my manufacture right now.. i'm trying to keep the price as low as possible without cutting corners.
the place that is building the kit wants to stay anonymous, but they have been around for a few decades and have been building quality exhaust parts. they specialize in building exhaust componants for various makes and models.
this is a sneak peak of what is to come within' these few weeks. i will be taking orders shortly after these pipes are tested on a 5spd 5th gen, auto 5th gen, 5spd 4th gen and an auto 4th gen, and also the 5.5th gen autos and 6spds. pictures will come fairly soon. sit tight.
Not in need of a feed pipe right now but this is interesting...subscribing.
09-08-2005, 09:09 AM
#5
I actually see a problem here. The feed pipe and downpipe are a doable thing, but the intercooler piping is the problem, they would have to base their kit off of what piping they get, now if they already have the turbocharger, and the outlet is on a different side than the piping was made for their screwed.
09-08-2005, 09:36 AM
#7
Moderator who thinks he is better than us with his I30
iTrader: (8)
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 9,335
Also, unless the customer is willing to do some modifications to the intercooler piping they will be forced to use a certain length intercooler with a particular style inlet and outlet.
None the less, it is a good idea to come out with a non-reverse y-pipe set up anyhow.
None the less, it is a good idea to come out with a non-reverse y-pipe set up anyhow.
09-08-2005, 12:11 PM
#8
thanks for your input guys.
as for the intercooler piping goes. it'll be similar to the PFI set up so you'll have to cut holes in your car and you can shorten the pipe length easily with a hack saw, dremel or at best a pipe cutter to fit longer intercoolers. the intercooler pipe is easily adaptable to any turbo no matter the orientation of the housing because worse case scenario, just use a 90 degree silicon coupler.
and yes the down pipe does go under the transmission. but the feed pipe doesn't go under anything so the only pipe that goes under the transmission is the down pipe...
for those of you that want, i can also build the down pipe out of 2 2" pipes with a collector so there would be almost if not NO loss of ground clearance at all. and the down pipe will definately have a flex section..
spanishrice: what do you mean all the kits are going to be a little different?
the manufacture is not an exhaust shop, they build things for buisnesses so all the kits will be exactly the same as the first one being cranked out. a welding jig is being used to insure fitment.
as far as which turbo bolts up to this kit, if you dont' specify whcih turbo you're running, a T3/t4 custom flange is going to be welded on there. the flange has bolt holes for a t3 but can also use a t4.. or at least that's what we're making right now. that way only the down pipe flange needs to be modified if any of you decide to upgrade your turbo..
i've taken many things into considration with this kit.. it's been blue printed since 99.. so trust me, alot of thought have been put into it.
as for the intercooler piping goes. it'll be similar to the PFI set up so you'll have to cut holes in your car and you can shorten the pipe length easily with a hack saw, dremel or at best a pipe cutter to fit longer intercoolers. the intercooler pipe is easily adaptable to any turbo no matter the orientation of the housing because worse case scenario, just use a 90 degree silicon coupler.
and yes the down pipe does go under the transmission. but the feed pipe doesn't go under anything so the only pipe that goes under the transmission is the down pipe...
for those of you that want, i can also build the down pipe out of 2 2" pipes with a collector so there would be almost if not NO loss of ground clearance at all. and the down pipe will definately have a flex section..
spanishrice: what do you mean all the kits are going to be a little different?
the manufacture is not an exhaust shop, they build things for buisnesses so all the kits will be exactly the same as the first one being cranked out. a welding jig is being used to insure fitment.
as far as which turbo bolts up to this kit, if you dont' specify whcih turbo you're running, a T3/t4 custom flange is going to be welded on there. the flange has bolt holes for a t3 but can also use a t4.. or at least that's what we're making right now. that way only the down pipe flange needs to be modified if any of you decide to upgrade your turbo..
i've taken many things into considration with this kit.. it's been blue printed since 99.. so trust me, alot of thought have been put into it.
09-08-2005, 12:16 PM
#9
Also, the reverse Y-pipe will need to have a FED and CALI version to account for a front pre-cat unless you just force people to install a front FED exhaust manifold, which is easiest and most would want to do anyways, I think. The emissions version will also determine where the 02s go...at least on the 5th gen.
Where/how is the turbo going to be oriented, like PFIs kits?
Where/how is the turbo going to be oriented, like PFIs kits?
09-08-2005, 12:21 PM
#10
if the prices is right, I'll be ur first customer, 
Keep us updated. Also on the downpipe, can a request be made to include a 3in cut out?
And any modifications need to fit the forward ypipe? last time I heard there is non other than relocating the battery.
Keep us updated. Also on the downpipe, can a request be made to include a 3in cut out?
And any modifications need to fit the forward ypipe? last time I heard there is non other than relocating the battery.
09-08-2005, 12:26 PM
#11
Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Also, the reverse Y-pipe will need to have a FED and CALI version to account for a front pre-cat unless you just force people to install a front FED exhaust manifold, which is easiest and most would want to do anyways, I think. The emissions version will also determine where the 02s go...at least on the 5th gen.
Where/how is the turbo going to be oriented, like PFIs kits?
Where/how is the turbo going to be oriented, like PFIs kits?
nope.. the intake inlet points at the driver side fender...
oh yah i forgot to mention.. that it'll require a fed spec manifold conversion.. it's cheap.. and easy.. only the front manifold needs to be replaced.. and the 02 can either be relocated or simulated.. but that's up to u guys to do on your own..
a 3" full turbo back is in the works too, and i can also include 02 bungs that go behind the main cat too.. for those that aren't going to use it, it'll just but plugged up.. the 3" exhaust should be more affordable than the competitors, it'll also feature SS piping, mandrel bends and tig welds.. and hopefully it'll be one peice.. but we'll find out once it's made.
09-08-2005, 12:29 PM
#12
Originally Posted by jcy98maxse
if the prices is right, I'll be ur first customer,
Keep us updated. Also on the downpipe, can a request be made to include a 3in cut out?
And any modifications need to fit the forward ypipe? last time I heard there is non other than relocating the battery.
Keep us updated. Also on the downpipe, can a request be made to include a 3in cut out?
And any modifications need to fit the forward ypipe? last time I heard there is non other than relocating the battery.
i was debating whether i should have made a kit exclusively for 5speeds that don't require the relocation of the battery but i felt that it wasn't worthwhile.
i'll ask to see if all the kits can have cut outs made into them.. but that would drive the cost up a tad bit.. maybe by 10bux at most.
09-08-2005, 04:25 PM
#15
why not just make the downpipe and foward y-pipe. People are going to want different intercoolers, everything from water/air to air/air. Or some might find ways for shorter intercooler piping, just saying. I would have to see the completed project first.
oh and what about aluminum intercooler piping?
oh and what about aluminum intercooler piping?
09-08-2005, 05:54 PM
#17
aluminum piping cost more and that company doesn't do aluminum piping.. that's why there's the stage 1 and stage 2 kit.. for those that don't want the intercooler piping.
and no i can't get that axel back pipe built.. the place is pretty much like a manufacture, they only make parts in large quantities, making one peice would cost too much.
pix will come soon. hopefully by the end of next week.
and no i can't get that axel back pipe built.. the place is pretty much like a manufacture, they only make parts in large quantities, making one peice would cost too much.
pix will come soon. hopefully by the end of next week.
09-10-2005, 08:44 PM
#20
hrmm.. i decided against adding a cut out to the pipes.. i figured for those of you that want to run it at the track, just unbolt the exhaust from the axle back..
i'm going to build a 3" exhaust too =D
i'm going to build a 3" exhaust too =D
09-11-2005, 10:24 PM
#25
Originally Posted by smotz
Cool!!! maybe I will be able to do my turbo this winter afterall! 
09-12-2005, 03:14 PM
#29
the price should be set tomorrow. the prototype is being finalized today, the jig will be built sometime tomorrow, a production peice will be test fitted on the 4th gen some time next week or maybe by the end of this week, depending on how fast the manufacture works. and pix will come soon =D
09-13-2005, 03:18 PM
#35
the pix will be on a fifth gen. i want to get pix on a fifth gen manual and auto and a fourth gen manual and auto. next week will be very very busy for me since i'll be installing and uninstalling the kit on various cars for pictures.