1 step or 2?
#1
1 step or 2?
I am just wondering which sparkplugs to get. I know the ratio is -.004"/50+hp but I have no idea what the gap is on 1 and 2 step colder.
I am thinking about going 2 step colder, which would mean I would have to buy Denso instead of NGK. I don't hear many of you buying Denso though, any reason why?
Let me know what you guys think.
Thanks!
I am thinking about going 2 step colder, which would mean I would have to buy Denso instead of NGK. I don't hear many of you buying Denso though, any reason why?
Let me know what you guys think.
Thanks!
#2
Well, it all depends. How modded are you?
If your running N/A then stick to normal platinum plugs
If your running a mild shot of nitrous (100 or less) then 1step should be fine.
I would not suggest 2-step colder unless your packing atleast 400whp so thats just out of the question.
Keep in mind with colder plugs you actually lose power under normal operation, so dont overestimate what you need. Espeicially with nitrous, because you will suffer a loss in N/A mode.
Btw-The spark plug gap itself had nothing to do with how cold the plugs are.
Here is some reading material:
http://www.centuryperformance.com/spark.asp
http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/64378/
http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/spkplghnbook.htm
If your running N/A then stick to normal platinum plugs
If your running a mild shot of nitrous (100 or less) then 1step should be fine.
I would not suggest 2-step colder unless your packing atleast 400whp so thats just out of the question.
Keep in mind with colder plugs you actually lose power under normal operation, so dont overestimate what you need. Espeicially with nitrous, because you will suffer a loss in N/A mode.
Btw-The spark plug gap itself had nothing to do with how cold the plugs are.
Here is some reading material:
http://www.centuryperformance.com/spark.asp
http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/64378/
http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/spkplghnbook.htm
#3
Originally Posted by HitManSE
Well, it all depends. How modded are you?
If your running N/A then stick to normal platinum plugs
If your running a mild shot of nitrous (100 or less) then 1step should be fine.
I would not suggest 2-step colder unless your packing atleast 400whp so thats just out of the question.
Keep in mind with colder plugs you actually lose power under normal operation, so dont overestimate what you need. Espeicially with nitrous, because you will suffer a loss in N/A mode.
Btw-The spark plug gap itself had nothing to do with how cold the plugs are.
Here is some reading material:
http://www.centuryperformance.com/spark.asp
http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/64378/
http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/spkplghnbook.htm
If your running N/A then stick to normal platinum plugs
If your running a mild shot of nitrous (100 or less) then 1step should be fine.
I would not suggest 2-step colder unless your packing atleast 400whp so thats just out of the question.
Keep in mind with colder plugs you actually lose power under normal operation, so dont overestimate what you need. Espeicially with nitrous, because you will suffer a loss in N/A mode.
Btw-The spark plug gap itself had nothing to do with how cold the plugs are.
Here is some reading material:
http://www.centuryperformance.com/spark.asp
http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/64378/
http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/spkplghnbook.htm
-.004"/50+hp: is this the equation I would use on a stock plug?
Also what is everyone else running? One step, Two, or just regap stock ones.
#4
Originally Posted by pimpjuice
Thanks for the links. Hopefully I can join the 400+ hp club here shortly. I plan on increasing my boost here pretty soon when I get my DFMU in. I'm thinking about going with the 2 step colder though.
-.004"/50+hp: is this the equation I would use on a stock plug?
Also what is everyone else running? One step, Two, or just regap stock ones.
-.004"/50+hp: is this the equation I would use on a stock plug?
Also what is everyone else running? One step, Two, or just regap stock ones.
Be careful with it though, im sure you need to lecure regarding that matter.
As for the .004"/50+hp...well Ive never personally been one to re-gap the stockers. Its not going to effect how the plug dissapates heat so there isnt any real reason to do it IMO. .004" is a very small decrease & I doubt there will be much of a difference.
As for what every1 else is running, Im no so sure but id guess atleast 1-step colder for most of the seriously modded guys. I dont know how many are running 2-step but then again, not too many people actually need that.
#5
Originally Posted by HitManSE
not too many people actually need that.
As far as the gap, someone on the 350z forums said "I also had to gap them around thirty to prevent the boost from blowing the spark out". This might be the reason for decreasing the gap slightly, but who knows?
#6
Thats understandable, I would want the correct ones for my app as well.
I dont want to say "yeah thats fine" with the gap issue, because ive never personally done that. Never wanted to mess with it. I dont want to give bad advice, so I dont want to really comment on it, you know what I mean...
I would also suggest the smartest thing to do is reasearch it. Im sure some of it will be explained in atleast one of the links ive given.
Its possible the guy with the Z was running on stock plugs that have been re-gapped but like you said
I dont want to say "yeah thats fine" with the gap issue, because ive never personally done that. Never wanted to mess with it. I dont want to give bad advice, so I dont want to really comment on it, you know what I mean...
I would also suggest the smartest thing to do is reasearch it. Im sure some of it will be explained in atleast one of the links ive given.
Its possible the guy with the Z was running on stock plugs that have been re-gapped but like you said
#7
Originally Posted by HitManSE
Thats understandable, I would want the correct ones for my app as well.
I dont want to say "yeah thats fine" with the gap issue, because ive never personally done that. Never wanted to mess with it. I dont want to give bad advice, so I dont want to really comment on it, you know what I mean...
I would also suggest the smartest thing to do is reasearch it. Im sure some of it will be explained in atleast one of the links ive given.
Its possible the guy with the Z was running on stock plugs that have been re-gapped but like you said
I dont want to say "yeah thats fine" with the gap issue, because ive never personally done that. Never wanted to mess with it. I dont want to give bad advice, so I dont want to really comment on it, you know what I mean...
I would also suggest the smartest thing to do is reasearch it. Im sure some of it will be explained in atleast one of the links ive given.
Its possible the guy with the Z was running on stock plugs that have been re-gapped but like you said
He re-gapped his NGK Copper one step colder plugs. Which also brings up another puzzling question. Copper or Iridium. Many of the 350 guys are running copper plugs because of the heat dissapating quality of the metal. They say that the tip of the iridium plugs get to hot and can still cause detonation.
I will do more research though and figure out whats best for my application.
#9
Originally Posted by pimpjuice
He re-gapped his NGK Copper one step colder plugs. Which also brings up another puzzling question. Copper or Iridium. Many of the 350 guys are running copper plugs because of the heat dissapating quality of the metal. They say that the tip of the iridium plugs get to hot and can still cause detonation.
I will do more research though and figure out whats best for my application.
I will do more research though and figure out whats best for my application.
Id pull the plugs every oil change just to check them out. All depends on how much power is being produced. The more power your packing, the faster you will eat up plugs.
#12
I would say go with copper because they are cheaper and you have to replace them often. That way you always have fresh plugs in your car insead of spending lots of money and having to replace the plugs once they get old around 60k.
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