DEK swap - running the hoses
03-13-2007, 08:22 PM
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DEK swap - running the hoses
from what i can see they moved the hoses from the side of the block to on top of the IM. wanted to know if anyone knows where I can get a clear picture of where all the hoses ran to and from???I don't hook up anything wrong or forget to hook something up.
03-14-2007, 05:22 AM
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Since the 4th gen and 5th Coolant Logs are different, you need to modify the 4th gen Vac gally if you want to re-use it.
When I did my swap and took off the stock gallies, I kept both the gallies in tact...(meaning I left all the vaccum lines where they were) I then moved the green plug, I believe for the KS, over to the one side of the main metal bracket. I then drilled a hole in that bracket and mounted it to the 5th gen Coolant Log. I went to the FSM and printed out all the diagrams on there for the Gallies and did up the vaccum lines exactly how they have them in the FSM.
-matt
When I did my swap and took off the stock gallies, I kept both the gallies in tact...(meaning I left all the vaccum lines where they were) I then moved the green plug, I believe for the KS, over to the one side of the main metal bracket. I then drilled a hole in that bracket and mounted it to the 5th gen Coolant Log. I went to the FSM and printed out all the diagrams on there for the Gallies and did up the vaccum lines exactly how they have them in the FSM.
-matt
03-17-2007, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RedfoxXx
I keep reading about the "coolant log" but what exactaly is it?
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03-17-2007, 06:51 PM
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what has to be modified with the coolant log? Sorry I'm not too knowledgeable on this swap. I was thinking of possibly doing the swap but don't have enough info. What has to be modified to swap them? If you have links that would be great. I've tried searching google but it doesn't give anything good.
03-18-2007, 08:17 AM
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needed parts
1. vq30dek
2. IACV plate
3. RPM switch
sensors from de to dek
1. bell housing
2. cam position
3. throttle position sensor
4. coolant log sensor
extra work
1. jb weld swirl valves (maybe)
2. swap evap system (I have a 95 so I dont think i have evap)
3. rewire fuel injectors
stole this from another thread, matt plese let me know if this all sounds right
I plan on droppin this bad boy in over the summer
any thoughts on what the RMP switch does and such?
thanks so much!
1. vq30dek
2. IACV plate
3. RPM switch
sensors from de to dek
1. bell housing
2. cam position
3. throttle position sensor
4. coolant log sensor
extra work
1. jb weld swirl valves (maybe)
2. swap evap system (I have a 95 so I dont think i have evap)
3. rewire fuel injectors
stole this from another thread, matt plese let me know if this all sounds right
I plan on droppin this bad boy in over the summer
any thoughts on what the RMP switch does and such?
thanks so much!
03-20-2007, 11:33 AM
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the swirl valve is a must do!
I have read over this writeup and it did not talk about the RPM switches,
http://vqpower.com/gtrmax/00VI/
what is the best RPM switch to go for and how does it interface with the OBDII PC?
what is the disadvantage of using the neg side of a coil for timing?
Also I have read that people use the stock 4th GEN pc with the 00VI
Would it not have a tendency to run lean at high RPM when the secondary runners are open?
Dose the bigger injectors just compensate or dose a sensor pick up the slack?
I have read over this writeup and it did not talk about the RPM switches,
http://vqpower.com/gtrmax/00VI/
what is the best RPM switch to go for and how does it interface with the OBDII PC?
what is the disadvantage of using the neg side of a coil for timing?
Also I have read that people use the stock 4th GEN pc with the 00VI
Would it not have a tendency to run lean at high RPM when the secondary runners are open?
Dose the bigger injectors just compensate or dose a sensor pick up the slack?
03-24-2007, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RedfoxXx
what is the best RPM switch to go for and how does it interface with the OBDII PC?
Originally Posted by RedfoxXx
Also I have read that people use the stock 4th GEN pc with the 00VI Would it not have a tendency to run lean at high RPM when the secondary runners are open? Dose the bigger injectors just compensate or dose a sensor pick up the slack?
03-24-2007, 02:32 PM
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please that would definitely help...and i have a couple of questions cause im curently stuck.
i'm working on putting everything back together which includes the egr, evap, and putting the 00vi back on top. im using a 4thgen LIM and fuel rail. here's my problem.
the 00vi has 8 screws that bolt down. stephenmax drilled the LIM that you sent him so the 4 middle holes fit perfectly, but what do I do about the 4 holes on the outside???
also the pipe from the evap has a sensor that runs from the IACV to the EGR intake pipe. how do I hook that up to the 5th gen egr pipe???
i'm working on putting everything back together which includes the egr, evap, and putting the 00vi back on top. im using a 4thgen LIM and fuel rail. here's my problem.
the 00vi has 8 screws that bolt down. stephenmax drilled the LIM that you sent him so the 4 middle holes fit perfectly, but what do I do about the 4 holes on the outside???
also the pipe from the evap has a sensor that runs from the IACV to the EGR intake pipe. how do I hook that up to the 5th gen egr pipe???
03-24-2007, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Digital Alchemy
the 00vi has 8 screws that bolt down. stephenmax drilled the LIM that you sent him so the 4 middle holes fit perfectly, but what do I do about the 4 holes on the outside??
You have to Drill out the Plastic on the 00VI for the two outer holes to be able to put a bolt through. What I did was secure the 5th Upper and the 4th gen lower with the center Bolts and then drill the outer. Be carefull so you leave enough meat on the plastic outer. Youll see what Im talking about when you do it. Do alittle at a time.
Originally Posted by Digital Alchemy
also the pipe from the evap has a sensor that runs from the IACV to the EGR intake pipe. how do I hook that up to the 5th gen egr pipe???
-matt
03-24-2007, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by matty
You have to Drill out the Plastic on the 00VI for the two outer holes to be able to put a bolt through. What I did was secure the 5th Upper and the 4th gen lower with the center Bolts and then drill the outer. Be carefull so you leave enough meat on the plastic outer. Youll see what Im talking about when you do it. Do alittle at a time.
03-24-2007, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Digital Alchemy
ok so would it be possible to leave the 00vi bolted to the LIM turn it upside down and drill from the bottom to the top???
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03-24-2007, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by matty
No. Bolt it up and make a reference mark. You cant drill from the bottom because thats where the threads. I guess you can take a small bit and make a reference hole. Then just take it off and make it bigger... I put it together and took it apart about 10 times till i got it right.
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ok that makes sense. forgot about the threads...you still gonna take a pic of the vac lines when you get the chance
03-26-2007, 07:46 PM
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OK...I'm in the middle of putting everything back together while doing a DEK swap. here's my setup
00 upper manifold
00 throttle body
4th gen rail injectors
4th gen LIM (lower intake manifold)
4th gen IACV
I've hit a problem. the LIM is drilled so the the 4 middle bolts line up with no problem. but the 4 holes on the outside are not lining up
i've been told to drill the 00VI to line up with the LIM on the ends, but a nissan tech said that the 00VI is hollow at some points. does anyone know how safe it is to drill the 00VI, and which parts are hollow and parts aren't.
00 upper manifold
00 throttle body
4th gen rail injectors
4th gen LIM (lower intake manifold)
4th gen IACV
I've hit a problem. the LIM is drilled so the the 4 middle bolts line up with no problem. but the 4 holes on the outside are not lining up
i've been told to drill the 00VI to line up with the LIM on the ends, but a nissan tech said that the 00VI is hollow at some points. does anyone know how safe it is to drill the 00VI, and which parts are hollow and parts aren't.
04-14-2008, 06:16 PM
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Well if you look at your second pic, one of those bolts arent used.
The OUTER LARGE TWO holes need to be drilled to line up. What I did was mounted it on the bench with the middle bolts tightened. Then drill alittle and slowly
-matt
The OUTER LARGE TWO holes need to be drilled to line up. What I did was mounted it on the bench with the middle bolts tightened. Then drill alittle and slowly
-matt
05-07-2008, 03:29 AM
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I plan on doing this swap in the next week or so and i cant find any step by step swap write up or detailed pics i HAVE been searching i know what i need just dont have instructions please i need some help
05-07-2008, 12:43 PM
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Did you read the stickies? How did you miss these?
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=373884
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=256788
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=400691
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=373884
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=256788
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=400691
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