Nooberish Cam Timing Question
#1
Nooberish Cam Timing Question
On a 3.5 swap,
Using the 3.5 timing stuff
Pretending that the TVCs are locked in the right position
And trying to use a vq30 ecu
Do the different cam sensors (rear heads vs timing cover) make the 30 ecu unable to control it?
The cam timing signals are different, correct?
Am I missing any other problems?
Using the 3.5 timing stuff
Pretending that the TVCs are locked in the right position
And trying to use a vq30 ecu
Do the different cam sensors (rear heads vs timing cover) make the 30 ecu unable to control it?
The cam timing signals are different, correct?
Am I missing any other problems?
#4
The fact that you don't like my answer doesn't make it any less true or relevant. The 3.0 ECU needs to read the bumps on the main intake cam sprocket to determine which stroke the #1 cylinder is on. Without that, it will never run.
Better?
Better?
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Lol *** jokes in the all motor forum. The only reason to use the full 3.5 with the ugly cover is VTCs. If you start modding crank-cam sensor positions and timing covers you will truly want to buy yourself a gun and shoot to kill. Believe me.
#8
Originally Posted by oTranscendental
Is there no way to use a PWM box to power the solenoids? In combo with a piggyback? (all with 3.0 timing cover and ecu)
#10
Originally Posted by 95naSTA
Wow, thanks for the amazing answer.
How about actually answering my questions instead of being Mr. COCKy.
How about actually answering my questions instead of being Mr. COCKy.
If you are determined enough by all means lead to way and show us a way to make it all work, were all open minded here, but we do know when were beating a dead horse.
#11
Originally Posted by MDeezy
it wasn't really a cocky answer, its been stated many times the 3.0 equipment needs to be used when your retaining the 3.0 ecu.
This is all I wanted to make sure of:
Originally Posted by 95naSTA
The cam timing signals are different, correct?
But I got:
Originally Posted by nismology
You have to use the 3.0 timing equipment to use the 3.0 ECU, period.
I understand why you can't use an additional injector driver or rpm switch.
I've been through all that.
It would have took less energy to write 'correct' and 'no' and I would have gotten more out of it.
#14
Originally Posted by 95naSTA
If it could have been done easily it would have been done by now.
It is easy. Run a megasquirt, and bulid everything yourself. You'll be able to have a 3.5 w/VTC's and a 5spd tranny. Done deal. I hope you know how to engineer.
What I'm trying to say is, you will need to have a board built to utilize VTC's.
#16
Originally Posted by Lefteezy
if youre up to doing that much work to use the 3.0 ecu, then why not just use an a33b ecu and not have to worry about it not working?
I read a post about using both ecus together but you would have to splice the harness to both, and for guys with the 3.0 TC I'm not sure if VTC would even work.
You would just have to run all the 35 wires and ecu.
I must have more powah! I must find a way to get vtcs working
#18
I do have two ideas.
Both would use the 3.0 ecu and you wouldn't have to take off the 3.5 timing cover.
One involves a lot of machining and the vq30 timing sensor but no VTCs.
The other involves either a pic or a stamp to actually control the VTCs but then I'm not sure how to get the timing signal.
I'm just going to see how far I can get with it but at least I'm going to give it a shot.
Both would use the 3.0 ecu and you wouldn't have to take off the 3.5 timing cover.
One involves a lot of machining and the vq30 timing sensor but no VTCs.
The other involves either a pic or a stamp to actually control the VTCs but then I'm not sure how to get the timing signal.
I'm just going to see how far I can get with it but at least I'm going to give it a shot.
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