Puppetmaster

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Most of you may remember that this has been in the works since last spring/summer and never looked liked it would come through. Well, the Altima guys managed to get Kinetix to actually finish a couple of em and have pics of the IM installed.

Dynos are supposedly going to take place this on Thursday this week.













Links to threads:

http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=217508

http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=193864

Jeff92se

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Hot damn, they actually did it.

vq356sp

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I Want it now.

Fred Allen Burge

Wow, that looks so similar to the one I'm building for my S14, crazy. I'd like to know if they used velocity stacks on the inside.


allen

Biggs_02

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sooooo shiny...hopefully we'll get near the gain of as the z does

Puppetmaster

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Let me just add that the word on the street is that the initial price or "group deal" price as they're calling it, is going to be $750 before shipping and taxes (if buyer is CA resident).

stephenlc

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i say it makes 10 hp and 5 lbs of torque over stock.

Puppetmaster

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I wouldn't be surprised if you're right about that....

So far Kinetix says they are expecting 10-15 whp over stock, but the dyno is supposed to be on Thursday, I'll post results here when they are posted on the Alti boards.

Hope they have a good baseline too....

Weimar Ben

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screw kinetix, their $750 IM, their lousy 10hp/5tq. I'll get a 350z IM thank you very much .

virgilio7

i think the 10 hp and 5 tq over stock is bad for a stock car.
15 hp and 10 tq over a car with i/h/e will be great. 20 hp 15 tq on a car with cams , tuned and the rest of the bolt ons will be ideal.

Jime

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This is a dyno comparing the (K) Kinetic, (C) Crawford as well as a stock 350Z Plenum with Motordyne spacers and someones elses spacer.

A complete 350Z Intake Manifold can be purchased for approx $225 and the 1/2" Motordyne spacer is around $290 as well as a few bucks to reweld the neck but still much cheaper and more HP than anything else on the market and the way that most of the 350Z guys are now going.

Remember this is compared to the stock 350Z manifold which is certainly higher output than our stock manifold so the increases are even higher. Presently we don't know the difference between our stocker and the 350Z stocker.

PS I ordered mine today. (manifold and spacer)

Jeff92se

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Thing is Jime, I don't think you guys have enough room to add the spacer?

NmexMAX

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Even if adds 10 peak, what about at 6550? Peak #'s are for dyno queens, gains on the right side of the tach are for certain people. Gains all over are for fantasies.

Price is Screw bling.

Sleeper >*

looslip

iTrader: (3)

Very nice looking IM!! Glad they finally came through but the price seems a bit steep. What kind of difference in gains would it be between the Z IM vs Z IM with spacer? (guesstimations...) I'm thinking maybe 5hp at the peak?

Hoooper

no, but im guessing what he is saying is that it makes 10hp over the stock z manifold, which would mean more than that over our manifold.

Nismo3112

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Correct.. Anything taller than the stock ZIM will require you to do something about the hood.

Jeff92se

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Unless you try that thing we talked about?

Nismo3112

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Or that. But I wonder if that will affect the VE and flow etc. But if you could shave off a bit here and there, You might be able to make room for a spacer. Atleast the 5/16 spacer.

Jime

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I'm just going to keep slamming the hood till it fits.

For 12-14 HP over a stock 350Z manifold, I will get the hood closed, trust me.

Nismo3112

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Or have it stick out of the hood like a blower

gtr_rider

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Wow that looks good as hell..! They need better pictures though..

Tek-Niq

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looks good, I've been waiting for this..

NmexMAX

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So, does the spacer you're all talking about serve the same function on the Kinetix plenum as it does in the Z plenum?

I thought the ZIM spacer helped the front 2 cyls get more air...and looking at the Kinetix, all seems fine since there is no clamshell-type design to it.

Ninos_Maxima

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for some reason i think that im would work a whole lot better on the vq30.

steven88

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Allen, if you can prove to me your IM flows great...then you yourself have a customer

NmexMAX

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Prove your reason, or at least try and back it up, until then...

MDeezy

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IM looks sexy.

awaiting dyno.

If the gains with this IM arent better than the Z IM, then its not worth the $750 price tag. Given it would be easier to install, then getting the Z cut and welded, still...

steven88

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is the ZIM really only $225? seems kind of cheap for a complete setup?

Jime

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I bought one today for that price and he has 3 more if anyone is interested.

steven88

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wow thats impressive...do they normally go for that much? or is it just this guy?

jime, do you plan to add a scoop or shave the underbody of the hood?

Jime

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Not really sure the going price, this guy polishes them on an exchange basis and periodically sell the ones he accumulates. Found him on the Z board classifieds.

No scoop for me, my hood is already shaved, so if I have to I will raise the rear and front if necessary or modify the manifold more. I will decide that when I see what is required.

Nismo3112

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I got all 3 pieces for $180 shipped, but not all from the same seller though.
Shop around on my350z.com and you can find some sweet deals.

MaximaSE96

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that manifold looks nice....if it has 10-15hp gains over a stock maxima IM that would ne sweet but i dunno for 750 bux...i bet with a little time an effort somone could build an IM for a 4th gen for less than that

vsamoylov

no way i am going to pay $750 for that thing. i say this thing will be no better then a stock 350z im especially a 350z im with a 1/2 spacer which is on order for me. my set up ran me about $400 for everything. spending another $350 or more just for the shiny/bling factor, i cant do that.

virgilio7

it just came out. for sure some other company is going to build a knock off soon

Nismo3112

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The main reason why it costs so much is because of the size of the market for this product. As for now they are only marketing this for the 3.5 Altima, but we all know this will work and should be marketed to other FWD 3.5 platforms. If they expanded their market to a broader group, the price should definitely drop.

vsamoylov

true but it will never be as cheap as a 350z set up but the key factor is our 4th gen maximas are dirt cheap and have no resale value so thats why we do mods like the 350z im and vq swaps.

NmexMAX

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So .... who here cares about peak #'s?

The point behind this product (IMO) is high RPM power since FWD VQ's don't like that end of the tach.

We have decent low and midrange.. but lack the top end Z/G/M/FX have.

I wouldn't care if it did not gain me anything peak, but 20+ @ 6550 would be nice...

steven88

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werd...20+ at 6550 would be nice....but it still wouldn't completely justify the $750 cost...i would still want some mid-range to go along with it...and minimal low end lost...since majority of our daily is low-mid

tavarish

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i got mine for 180 shipped from my350z.com