new tires for original 17"
#4
Originally Posted by GBAUER
Ditto. Great tire, but freakin' expensive.
#10
I put the Conti Extremes on the front of my wifes TL-S an they are almost cooked in less than 10,000miles plus they're stong point was rain traction and they were worse then the OEM Michilins which were rated on of the worst ever. Anyway if your on a budget I put Kuhmo Exctas kh11's size 225's on the front of my Max and they are definately good all around tire. Great trac dry or wet my only complaint might be flex when you really push on it, they feel sidewall soft. My 2 cents! I'm sure it'll get criticism but I feel like a season pass holder at TireRack and I've definately tried most of the popular tires and my all time fav's are Potenza's RE750's. Good luck with whatever you decide. I'll also say that since going up to the 225's on the front I really didn't notice a traction change good or bad and it wasn't for lack of trying. Looks nicer, Big wide meaty tire!
#12
Originally Posted by import_rcr
I put the Conti Extremes on the front of my wifes TL-S an they are almost cooked in less than 10,000miles plus they're stong point was rain traction and they were worse then the OEM Michilins which were rated on of the worst ever. Anyway if your on a budget I put Kuhmo Exctas kh11's size 225's on the front of my Max and they are definately good all around tire. Great trac dry or wet my only complaint might be flex when you really push on it, they feel sidewall soft. My 2 cents! I'm sure it'll get criticism but I feel like a season pass holder at TireRack and I've definately tried most of the popular tires and my all time fav's are Potenza's RE750's. Good luck with whatever you decide. I'll also say that since going up to the 225's on the front I really didn't notice a traction change good or bad and it wasn't for lack of trying. Looks nicer, Big wide meaty tire!
#13
avon
avon techs m550 a/s i just bought them like a few weeks ago, wow i love them. my handeling has improved 5 times. i can take those exit ramps that say 15mph going like 45-50 without my car even feeling a bit like its leaning. they were a little expensive thought. but i still enjoy them very much.
#14
Originally Posted by BkMaxima2004
avon techs m550 a/s i just bought them like a few weeks ago, wow i love them. my handeling has improved 5 times. i can take those exit ramps that say 15mph going like 45-50 without my car even feeling a bit like its leaning. they were a little expensive thought. but i still enjoy them very much.
How would you compare dry traction with stock potenzas, how fast could you take those ramps with Potenzas?
#17
Get Yokohama Avid V4/s. They have a 500 treadwear and AA traction. I got mine from tirerack for 435 shipped. They are awsome. Before that i had Perelli P6000 and these Yokohamas are a huge improvement. There are quite at cruzing and have tons od traction
#19
i have falken azenis st115's and they were 411 shipped. wonderful grip in dry and wet weather. substantially quiet than most performance tires out there, but don't you dare use these in snow! (i did since i installed them early spring and it felt like i was on slicks) sidewalls are stiff also... great for handling.
#20
Pirelli Pzero nero 235-45/17 $130 from Tirerack
Just put a pair on the front one month ago. Like em so far. They're the all season ones. treadlife is rated much higher than most other max performance summer tires. Previously had Bridgestone s-03 pole position. Still have two on back. Those were incredible but very short lifespan for $200 a tire.
#21
Originally Posted by lalaMAX
Falken ZE-512... cheap and good~
Gonna try out the Proxes when these are done....
#22
I also have the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S. I love the way they handle, BUT ....i find them VERY VERY noisy. I am thinking about replacing them just because of the noise issue.
Does anyone else had/have the same noisy experince with them???
AVON are very nice tires. They are HEAVY but if you don't care - buy them. They are nice, grippy, quiet, long lasting and affordable. Get the 550 since they are All season.
AVONs are wide and last long. They look very good too on stock rims. If they weren't so heavy, i would have still kept them on my car.
tirerack.com is your best friend for good prices, selection and service.
Does anyone else had/have the same noisy experince with them???
AVON are very nice tires. They are HEAVY but if you don't care - buy them. They are nice, grippy, quiet, long lasting and affordable. Get the 550 since they are All season.
AVONs are wide and last long. They look very good too on stock rims. If they weren't so heavy, i would have still kept them on my car.
tirerack.com is your best friend for good prices, selection and service.
#23
I had Toyo Proxes FZ4 previous to my Michelin Pilot Sport A/S. The Michelin's are a huge improvement in every category over the Toyo's. Road noise with the Michelin's is a whisper compared to the Toyo's. Wet traction is much improved too. Go with the Michelin's. You will not be disappointed.
#24
Originally Posted by dansmax2003
I also have the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S. I love the way they handle, BUT ....i find them VERY VERY noisy. I am thinking about replacing them just because of the noise issue.
Does anyone else had/have the same noisy experince with them???
AVON are very nice tires. They are HEAVY but if you don't care - buy them. They are nice, grippy, quiet, long lasting and affordable. Get the 550 since they are All season.
AVONs are wide and last long. They look very good too on stock rims. If they weren't so heavy, i would have still kept them on my car.
tirerack.com is your best friend for good prices, selection and service.
Does anyone else had/have the same noisy experince with them???
AVON are very nice tires. They are HEAVY but if you don't care - buy them. They are nice, grippy, quiet, long lasting and affordable. Get the 550 since they are All season.
AVONs are wide and last long. They look very good too on stock rims. If they weren't so heavy, i would have still kept them on my car.
tirerack.com is your best friend for good prices, selection and service.
I've had the Avons on for 15k miles. The treadwear is very good, and they are MUCH quieter than my old Nitto NT450s. They also grip better and make me feel more confident on the road than the Nittos.
As an added bonus, the Avons are fairly in expensive.
#26
Originally Posted by dansmax2003
I also have the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S. I love the way they handle, BUT ....i find them VERY VERY noisy. I am thinking about replacing them just because of the noise issue.
Does anyone else had/have the same noisy experince with them???
Does anyone else had/have the same noisy experince with them???
Dry grip = Pilots
Wet grip almost = Pilots
Ride comfort and noise much better than Pilots
#28
Pirelli PZero Nero M+S .....not a budget tire by any means, but is significently cheaper than Michelin Pilot Sport A/S. Ive had mine for about 15K miles and have no regrets going with them. Paid $500 shipped for 4 (235/45/17). Best of luck with your decision. Also, it might help out a bit if you looked at the comparision chart and read reviews from Tirerack.com.
#29
Originally Posted by boondoxmax
Nitto 455. smooth as glass and sticks like glue. Also great in rain........101.00 ea.
#30
#32
I used 225/50R17 Hankook Ventus HR II in the past. They weigh under 24 lbs each, cost around $100 each and handle quite well in dry & wet conditions. Have not tried them in snow though they are supposed to be all-season...
#33
Originally Posted by designer485
Get Yokohama Avid V4/s. They have a 500 treadwear and AA traction. I got mine from tirerack for 435 shipped. They are awsome. Before that i had Perelli P6000 and these Yokohamas are a huge improvement. There are quite at cruzing and have tons od traction
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Originally Posted by import_rcr
I put the Conti Extremes on the front of my wifes TL-S an they are almost cooked in less than 10,000miles plus they're stong point was rain traction and they were worse then the OEM Michilins which were rated on of the worst ever. Anyway if your on a budget I put Kuhmo Exctas kh11's size 225's on the front of my Max and they are definately good all around tire. Great trac dry or wet my only complaint might be flex when you really push on it, they feel sidewall soft. My 2 cents! I'm sure it'll get criticism but I feel like a season pass holder at TireRack and I've definately tried most of the popular tires and my all time fav's are Potenza's RE750's. Good luck with whatever you decide. I'll also say that since going up to the 225's on the front I really didn't notice a traction change good or bad and it wasn't for lack of trying. Looks nicer, Big wide meaty tire!
I would not be so quick to blame the tire.... I have had my Conti's on for almost 10K already and they look great I could easily get another year and a half out of them. Thats also while slammed on D2's all summer long and I take "spirited" drives a couple times a week around back roads.
As far as rain.... I have driven 100+mph in the rain on them and my car was planted the whole time, not a hint of hydro.
What pressure did you run them at? if you underinflated them, you will cook them in no time as with any tire, and rain traction will be much worse as with any tire....
#35
Originally Posted by nicks79
Really, Are they new model or are confusing them with Nitto 450? If so, then 450 suck in snow. They are great on dry, but wet and snow, forget it.
My Avon Tech M500s (summer performance tires) are solid in wet and dry conditions. If you need something good for light slush/mud, I'd suggest the Avon Tech M550s (all season performance).
#36
Originally Posted by crispykid717
I had Toyo Proxes FZ4 previous to my Michelin Pilot Sport A/S. The Michelin's are a huge improvement in every category over the Toyo's. Road noise with the Michelin's is a whisper compared to the Toyo's. Wet traction is much improved too. Go with the Michelin's. You will not be disappointed.
#37
Originally Posted by upstatemax
I would not be so quick to blame the tire.... I have had my Conti's on for almost 10K already and they look great I could easily get another year and a half out of them. Thats also while slammed on D2's all summer long and I take "spirited" drives a couple times a week around back roads.
As far as rain.... I have driven 100+mph in the rain on them and my car was planted the whole time, not a hint of hydro.
What pressure did you run them at? if you underinflated them, you will cook them in no time as with any tire, and rain traction will be much worse as with any tire....
As far as rain.... I have driven 100+mph in the rain on them and my car was planted the whole time, not a hint of hydro.
What pressure did you run them at? if you underinflated them, you will cook them in no time as with any tire, and rain traction will be much worse as with any tire....
#39
Originally Posted by irish44j
Just as a note, the Proxes FZ4 was the low-rated tire that was replaced by the Proxes 4, WAAAAYYYY better....The Proxes 4 are extremely quiet...quietest UHP tire I've ever owned.
How are the P4's in the snow?
#40
BFG Traction T/As 235 45 R17 have been great in the snow and rain. With our cars and snow nothing is good. These are the best that I have found and reasonable. I think I got them for $136 each. Colorado ski county I get them where they need to go.
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