Fidanzas don't fit on 1995????
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Fidanzas don't fit on 1995????
I have a fidanza flywheel, clutchnet 6-puck clutch kit, stock 5spd tranny on the floor of my garage.
Everything was going fine with the swap until I was finally able to put the Crank Position Sensor ring gear on the Fidanza. One hole does not line up. The other 8 are fine.
A friend at a local shop that ordered the flywheel (we figured just specifying "4th gen" would suffice) talked to the rep at fidanza (also a maxima guy) and said that they do not make one for the 1995 Maxima because it is unique to all other years. And they will not make them in the future. I have never heard of this
So, I need to know if anyone else has come across this issue. If you have, what did you do? Did you drill a new hole in the gear? I have to assume that would throw the balance of the assembly off, correct? Were there any vibration issues?
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Everything was going fine with the swap until I was finally able to put the Crank Position Sensor ring gear on the Fidanza. One hole does not line up. The other 8 are fine.
A friend at a local shop that ordered the flywheel (we figured just specifying "4th gen" would suffice) talked to the rep at fidanza (also a maxima guy) and said that they do not make one for the 1995 Maxima because it is unique to all other years. And they will not make them in the future. I have never heard of this
So, I need to know if anyone else has come across this issue. If you have, what did you do? Did you drill a new hole in the gear? I have to assume that would throw the balance of the assembly off, correct? Were there any vibration issues?
thanks in advance!
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Originally Posted by Nismo
wonder if a 96-99 ring gear will work
The other idea is to drill and tap another hole in the correct location on the flywheel. Then fill the other hole with aluminum.
This has to have happened to other people... but I can't find anything using the search. Weird. Or Fidanza made a one-off just to screw with me
Maybe we can get this little tidbit incorprated into the modification FAQ sticky? There is a post in there from 'wong about flywheels... but nothing about this.
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maybe the ammount of teeth on the gear is different on 95 but something went wrong and they corrected it when they made the 96+ so they changed the hole pattern so the shops that dont know about it, wont install the wrong gear. Just a guess.
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i have a 1995 and 1996 maxima's both 5sp
i added at fidanza n my 1995 like almost a year ago.... i did it my this "mechanic" out side my house. and i have no idea why, but we didnt have that problem. when everything was done. the car would shake really bad everytime i shifted, but i took it to this asian guy and he said that i didnt tight the flywheel all the way. he did it and fixed my problem. i love the new flywheel. im pretty sure makes my rpm go up alot faster. well at least alot faster then my 1996 one. i just thought i would share this with you
i added at fidanza n my 1995 like almost a year ago.... i did it my this "mechanic" out side my house. and i have no idea why, but we didnt have that problem. when everything was done. the car would shake really bad everytime i shifted, but i took it to this asian guy and he said that i didnt tight the flywheel all the way. he did it and fixed my problem. i love the new flywheel. im pretty sure makes my rpm go up alot faster. well at least alot faster then my 1996 one. i just thought i would share this with you
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Weird. I did my swap, I put a stock 5 speed flywheel into my car. You should have just bought a different gear ring with the extra hole. Lucky I have two spare flywheels, lets see if the one I have in my 95 is the same as my spare. I do have a fidenza but I have not installed it. Not planning ot install it anytime soon.
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I'm guessing that it is a subset of the 95's that are like this. So, not all 95's would have this bolt pattern for the ring gear. Maybe a mid-year update?
After some long-hard thinking about why this happened, I developed a hypothesis that states that Nissan wanted to balance the flywheel better by moving this one bolt. who knows, I wish I could have been a fly on the wall at Nissan when those engineers did their thing.
Jaime, do you know of a place to get used ring gears? I've been calling around and they are not willing to pull the tranny/flywheel just so I can get a ring gear... not without paying a rediculous sum of money.
The local Nissan dealership can't locate the ring gear nor it's bolts in the parts DB. I've gotten some really obscure parts from them before so this one has me stumped.
After some long-hard thinking about why this happened, I developed a hypothesis that states that Nissan wanted to balance the flywheel better by moving this one bolt. who knows, I wish I could have been a fly on the wall at Nissan when those engineers did their thing.
Jaime, do you know of a place to get used ring gears? I've been calling around and they are not willing to pull the tranny/flywheel just so I can get a ring gear... not without paying a rediculous sum of money.
The local Nissan dealership can't locate the ring gear nor it's bolts in the parts DB. I've gotten some really obscure parts from them before so this one has me stumped.
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Can anybody please take a picture of this mystery-hole on the ring gear? PLEASE! I have a Fidanza that I'll be putting in by the end of the summer and I'd like to compare w/e you guys are talking about to my Fidanza.
OK, I see all the 9 holes for the bolts, with one being smack bet'n 2 others (the other 8 are evenly spaced except that one, but that one is evenly spaced bet'n two other holes). There are also 3 iddy bitty holes around that same perimeter. Pictures, please pictures, lol.
OK, I see all the 9 holes for the bolts, with one being smack bet'n 2 others (the other 8 are evenly spaced except that one, but that one is evenly spaced bet'n two other holes). There are also 3 iddy bitty holes around that same perimeter. Pictures, please pictures, lol.
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Originally Posted by 95BLKMAX
Can anybody please take a picture of this mystery-hole on the ring gear? PLEASE! I have a Fidanza that I'll be putting in by the end of the summer and I'd like to compare w/e you guys are talking about to my Fidanza.
OK, I see all the 9 holes for the bolts, with one being smack bet'n 2 others (the other 8 are evenly spaced except that one, but that one is evenly spaced bet'n two other holes). There are also 3 iddy bitty holes around that same perimeter. Pictures, please pictures, lol.
OK, I see all the 9 holes for the bolts, with one being smack bet'n 2 others (the other 8 are evenly spaced except that one, but that one is evenly spaced bet'n two other holes). There are also 3 iddy bitty holes around that same perimeter. Pictures, please pictures, lol.
But it sounds like you have what I have. I think the three little holes are for the guide pins that align the ring gear to the flywheel. You should have a little bag of pins that came with the wheel.
The real question is: does the stock flywheel on your car have evenly spaced bolts or this pattern that Fidanza makes? Obviously, you can't answer that q until you pull the transmission though.
If I have not gotten back to this thread in a week make sure you ping me so i remember to give you a final synopsis.
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Last year I purchased and installed a new Fidanza Flywheel. This year it went out with my ACT Stage II clutch setup so I had to buy a new one with a almost swtock clutch to make my Max more reliable. Anyways, I had to ge the flywheel remachined to fit my 95 and that sucked! I spent an extra $230 to have 15 holes redrilled. I wasn't too impressed with Fidanza's customer service either so be careful. If you have the money and your mind set on the Fidanza flywheel than do it. I still lov ethe way this flywheel feels over stock. Wish they still made them though, don't feel like shellingout another $250 to have a custom flywheel.
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Well, I got the flywheel back from the machinist. Even though I told him to double check the balance of it with the drilled ring gear he didn't.. He said that he weighed the shavings from the hole drilled out of the ring gear and it didn't even amount to .5 grams. So he believed that I would not feel anything due to that.
So I installed the flywheel and clutch. It went on fine. I have put about 50-60 miles on it now and I have not felt any vibration due to flywheel imbalance. Idles smooth and is smooth all through the RPMs. The 6-puck clutch is a completely different story... moaning, chattering and abrupt contact has fulfilled every one of my expectations I hope this gets more friendly after the break-in.
Anyway, my experience is, go ahead and get the fidanza... drill the ring gear yourself (carefully!) and you should be fine. This is my experience... others may not agree. (Those that don't, please speak up)
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So I installed the flywheel and clutch. It went on fine. I have put about 50-60 miles on it now and I have not felt any vibration due to flywheel imbalance. Idles smooth and is smooth all through the RPMs. The 6-puck clutch is a completely different story... moaning, chattering and abrupt contact has fulfilled every one of my expectations I hope this gets more friendly after the break-in.
Anyway, my experience is, go ahead and get the fidanza... drill the ring gear yourself (carefully!) and you should be fine. This is my experience... others may not agree. (Those that don't, please speak up)
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Anyway, my experience is, go ahead and get the fidanza... drill the ring gear yourself (carefully!) and you should be fine. This is my experience... others may not agree. (Those that don't, please speak up)
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is it a matter of drilling a hole or two to attach the old ring gear onto the new flywheel, or do you need to redrill the whole flywheel? Anyone who has done this please give me some detailed instructions, because I need to tell the mechanic over the phone this morning how to do this.
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Originally Posted by Larry H
my car is apart at the shop right now because they put in my new spec stage 1 with a fidanza and it wouldn't start. I thought I wouldn't have a problem because I have a 96.
is it a matter of drilling a hole or two to attach the old ring gear onto the new flywheel, or do you need to redrill the whole flywheel? Anyone who has done this please give me some detailed instructions, because I need to tell the mechanic over the phone this morning how to do this.
is it a matter of drilling a hole or two to attach the old ring gear onto the new flywheel, or do you need to redrill the whole flywheel? Anyone who has done this please give me some detailed instructions, because I need to tell the mechanic over the phone this morning how to do this.
Assuming they did not install the ring gear and tried to restart it, the flywheel should have one misaligned hole on it in relation to the ring gear holes. I thought this problem only pertains to 95's though... let me know if this is what the mechanics are seeing.
Anyway, if there is only one misaligned hole, just drill a hole in the RING GEAR (not the flywheel). Everything else should bolt on without issues.
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Originally Posted by sleepermaxima
Does it not start because they did not reinstall the ring gear? Did they forget to reconnect a harness?
Assuming they did not install the ring gear and tried to restart it, the flywheel should have one misaligned hole on it in relation to the ring gear holes. I thought this problem only pertains to 95's though... let me know if this is what the mechanics are seeing.
Anyway, if there is only one misaligned hole, just drill a hole in the RING GEAR (not the flywheel). Everything else should bolt on without issues.
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Assuming they did not install the ring gear and tried to restart it, the flywheel should have one misaligned hole on it in relation to the ring gear holes. I thought this problem only pertains to 95's though... let me know if this is what the mechanics are seeing.
Anyway, if there is only one misaligned hole, just drill a hole in the RING GEAR (not the flywheel). Everything else should bolt on without issues.
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thanks for your help.
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Originally Posted by Larry H
I think he didn't put the ring gear back on b/c it wouldn't fit. I just got off the phone with the mechanic again, and he said he's just looking at it now...and said there shouldn't be any issues with drilling the ring gear and putting it all back together. says he's gonna call me later with the good news (fingers crossed).
thanks for your help.
thanks for your help.
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Picked up the car today...
so I told the mechanic to drill out the gear ring...and he did. picked up the car a few hours ago.
the good: the car revs a little more freely and feels "peppier." rev matching is easier, like everyone said.
the bad: the car vibrates a little more at idle. if you put your hand on the steering wheel and shifter you can feel it. at idle the engine now pulses enough that you can hear it in the exhaust.
it revs nice and smooth in every gear, but in the lower gears at just the right throttle, the car surges ever so slightly in rhythm. not sure if this is normal.
speaking of the clutch, the spec stage 1 is lighter than stock, about as light as a civic clutch. engagement is not that smooth but easier to modulate than before. I'm hoping the pedal gets heavier and the engagement gets smoother as I break it in.
the good: the car revs a little more freely and feels "peppier." rev matching is easier, like everyone said.
the bad: the car vibrates a little more at idle. if you put your hand on the steering wheel and shifter you can feel it. at idle the engine now pulses enough that you can hear it in the exhaust.
it revs nice and smooth in every gear, but in the lower gears at just the right throttle, the car surges ever so slightly in rhythm. not sure if this is normal.
speaking of the clutch, the spec stage 1 is lighter than stock, about as light as a civic clutch. engagement is not that smooth but easier to modulate than before. I'm hoping the pedal gets heavier and the engagement gets smoother as I break it in.
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Originally Posted by nismo2020
where did you guys buy your fidanza flywheels from? everywhere i have looked on the net has only given a model year of 99-00.
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Originally Posted by Larry H
so I told the mechanic to drill out the gear ring...and he did. picked up the car a few hours ago.
the good: the car revs a little more freely and feels "peppier." rev matching is easier, like everyone said.
the bad: the car vibrates a little more at idle. if you put your hand on the steering wheel and shifter you can feel it. at idle the engine now pulses enough that you can hear it in the exhaust.
it revs nice and smooth in every gear, but in the lower gears at just the right throttle, the car surges ever so slightly in rhythm. not sure if this is normal.
speaking of the clutch, the spec stage 1 is lighter than stock, about as light as a civic clutch. engagement is not that smooth but easier to modulate than before. I'm hoping the pedal gets heavier and the engagement gets smoother as I break it in.
the good: the car revs a little more freely and feels "peppier." rev matching is easier, like everyone said.
the bad: the car vibrates a little more at idle. if you put your hand on the steering wheel and shifter you can feel it. at idle the engine now pulses enough that you can hear it in the exhaust.
it revs nice and smooth in every gear, but in the lower gears at just the right throttle, the car surges ever so slightly in rhythm. not sure if this is normal.
speaking of the clutch, the spec stage 1 is lighter than stock, about as light as a civic clutch. engagement is not that smooth but easier to modulate than before. I'm hoping the pedal gets heavier and the engagement gets smoother as I break it in.
Really? I'm sorry to hear that... do you have the stock motor mounts? I'm running on stock (super mushy) mounts so that may account for why I don't feel a difference. Idle is exacly the same as before. It never was perfectly smooth though.
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