3rd Gen times?
06-11-2002, 12:46 AM
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3rd Gen times?
just curious about the 3rd gens i used to own one a while ago but now i got a 5th gen. how fast r u guys runnin anyway, whats the fastest time ever hit by a 3rd gen N/A or N20. no disrespect intended it just seems to me that 3rd gens aer slow, i havenet seen any modded here and if they were modded it still didnt work to well with them, ill ive ever done with any 3rd gens is play with them, i honestly havent come across 1 that actually fast or somewere even close to say...low 15's. ive seen a few post of 3rd gen hittin mid 15's but not much faster then that. any reply would be appreciated, and no im not talkin sh*t about 3rd gens just stating what i know and i can say they r slow because i had 1 and no it had no mods other then dents, im just curious to see whats the best that a 3rd gen has done.
06-11-2002, 01:11 AM
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When BriGuyMax and I went to the track 2 weeks ago there was a black 3rd gen SE (VE powered) running 14.8s with bolt ons. He's on this board but posts mostly in the 3rd gen section, his name was Ryan I believe. He posted right after we got back from the track saying hey.
06-11-2002, 01:53 AM
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06-11-2002, 02:01 AM
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VE 5spd 3rd gens are quick, in general they are in the same range of stock times as the VQ 4th gen 5spds (high 14s, low 15s)
I have alot of respect for them they were lightyears ahead of their time
I have alot of respect for them they were lightyears ahead of their time
06-11-2002, 12:01 PM
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Im somewhat surprized, i guess i had a dud or something but i beat the crap out of mine, by the time i was done i had almost 170k miles on it, it was an auto and i blew two trannys on it but never a problem with the engine,(not surpirzed abou that). that thing took a century to get to the top of sencond gear(70mph) but i was a 90gxe i dont know how it lasted that long. but i really had no idea 3rd gen could even get into the 14's even with manual tranny. mine ran like an 18 or something, its 0-60 was like in 9-10 sec range thats what i meant by slow. after i lost to a pontiac sunfire i never raced again in that thing
but the semitruck is what decided its fate and my insurance company help me with the downpayment for my new ride so im not complaining. that car ran like a champ, just slowly!
but the semitruck is what decided its fate and my insurance company help me with the downpayment for my new ride so im not complaining. that car ran like a champ, just slowly!
06-11-2002, 03:13 PM
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Originally posted by Chris91SE
06-11-2002, 05:40 PM
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I appreciate Carnal's comments. That is what I like to hear. Like he said, the VE 5 speed is equal to a 4th gen or 5th gen 5 speed...depending on driver they will run high 14s to mid 15's. The fastest N/A was low 14's that I know of, and with NOS mid-high 13s. In due time I will have the fastest VE And as far as the VG, I really love that car still. If I had one, I would be boosting that thing till the wheels fell off
It is a Z31 in a 4 door body.
And as far as the VG, I really love that car still. If I had one, I would be boosting that thing till the wheels fell off It is a Z31 in a 4 door body.
06-11-2002, 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by dmontzmax
I appreciate Carnal's comments. That is what I like to hear. Like he said, the VE 5 speed is equal to a 4th gen or 5th gen 5 speed...depending on driver they will run high 14s to mid 15's. The fastest N/A was low 14's that I know of, and with NOS mid-high 13s. In due time I will have the fastest VE And as far as the VG, I really love that car still. If I had one, I would be boosting that thing till the wheels fell off It is a Z31 in a 4 door body.
I appreciate Carnal's comments. That is what I like to hear. Like he said, the VE 5 speed is equal to a 4th gen or 5th gen 5 speed...depending on driver they will run high 14s to mid 15's. The fastest N/A was low 14's that I know of, and with NOS mid-high 13s. In due time I will have the fastest VE
And as far as the VG, I really love that car still. If I had one, I would be boosting that thing till the wheels fell off It is a Z31 in a 4 door body.
06-11-2002, 08:22 PM
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Originally posted by Lordrandall
VG Automatic! Very slow.
VG Automatic! Very slow.
but yeah the VE third gen ive been in, even with auto that thing had some ***** but i still didnt think it would ever run a 14 even manual, im seriuosly surprized. if a third gen ever beats me im gettin a loan and gettin a S/C the next day but what r the odds of me runnin into a 3rd gen out in Phx runnin anything faster the mid 16's.
06-11-2002, 08:34 PM
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Well in AZ I dont know. I know Maxima.org members are pretty rare in AZ
But if you run into a VE auto or 5 speed, it will give you a run for your money. And if you come to SoCal you better bring 3.5k, and we will also show you the way to Stillen while you are out here S/C here you come! ! ! BTW: VE autos, and 5 speeds are like night and day...the slowest *STOCK* VE 5 speed I have heard of was a 15.4 and the fastest *STOCK* was a 14.8 the fastest auto was a 15.2 I think? that was done by blu max and slowest being a low 16
But if you run into a VE auto or 5 speed, it will give you a run for your money. And if you come to SoCal you better bring 3.5k, and we will also show you the way to Stillen while you are out here S/C here you come! ! ! BTW: VE autos, and 5 speeds are like night and day...the slowest *STOCK* VE 5 speed I have heard of was a 15.4 and the fastest *STOCK* was a 14.8 the fastest auto was a 15.2 I think? that was done by blu max and slowest being a low 16
06-11-2002, 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by dmontzmax
Well in AZ I dont know. I know Maxima.org members are pretty rare in AZ But if you run into a VE auto or 5 speed, it will give you a run for your money. And if you come to SoCal you better bring 3.5k, and we will also show you the way to Stillen while you are out here S/C here you come! ! ! BTW: VE autos, and 5 speeds are like night and day...the slowest *STOCK* VE 5 speed I have heard of was a 15.4 and the fastest *STOCK* was a 14.8 the fastest auto was a 15.2 I think? that was done by blu max and slowest being a low 16
Well in AZ I dont know. I know Maxima.org members are pretty rare in AZ
But if you run into a VE auto or 5 speed, it will give you a run for your money. And if you come to SoCal you better bring 3.5k, and we will also show you the way to Stillen while you are out here S/C here you come! ! ! BTW: VE autos, and 5 speeds are like night and day...the slowest *STOCK* VE 5 speed I have heard of was a 15.4 and the fastest *STOCK* was a 14.8 the fastest auto was a 15.2 I think? that was done by blu max and slowest being a low 16
06-11-2002, 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by dmontzmax
Well in AZ I dont know. I know Maxima.org members are pretty rare in AZ But if you run into a VE auto or 5 speed, it will give you a run for your money. And if you come to SoCal you better bring 3.5k, and we will also show you the way to Stillen while you are out here S/C here you come! ! ! BTW: VE autos, and 5 speeds are like night and day...the slowest *STOCK* VE 5 speed I have heard of was a 15.4 and the fastest *STOCK* was a 14.8 the fastest auto was a 15.2 I think? that was done by blu max and slowest being a low 16
Well in AZ I dont know. I know Maxima.org members are pretty rare in AZ
But if you run into a VE auto or 5 speed, it will give you a run for your money. And if you come to SoCal you better bring 3.5k, and we will also show you the way to Stillen while you are out here S/C here you come! ! ! BTW: VE autos, and 5 speeds are like night and day...the slowest *STOCK* VE 5 speed I have heard of was a 15.4 and the fastest *STOCK* was a 14.8 the fastest auto was a 15.2 I think? that was done by blu max and slowest being a low 16
06-11-2002, 09:01 PM
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I've never hear of a stock auto running anywhere close to 15.2. Thats hard to believe when a 4th gen auto with more toruqe runs in the mid to high 15s at best. Weren't the 4th gens lighter as well? I'm curious to see some proof of this run. I know the mod with a red VE 5spd with pretty much all the bolt ons runs 14.4. Eitherway, I'm not really too concerned if I run into one.....
06-11-2002, 09:02 PM
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yeah, you were probably playing with the VG, they really have no top end. On the other hand the VE has mad top end. A 4th or 5th gen 5 speed and VE 5 speed will stay with each other very close. But a VE auto should get pulled on by a 5th gen auto. And DAMN!!! The s/c's cost more for the 5th gen, that is jacked up...DAMN STEALIN!
06-11-2002, 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by dmontzmax
yeah, you were probably playing with the VG, they really have no top end. On the other hand the VE has mad top end. A 4th or 5th gen 5 speed and VE 5 speed will stay with each other very close. But a VE auto should get pulled on by a 5th gen auto. And DAMN!!! The s/c's cost more for the 5th gen, that is jacked up...DAMN STEALIN!
yeah, you were probably playing with the VG, they really have no top end. On the other hand the VE has mad top end. A 4th or 5th gen 5 speed and VE 5 speed will stay with each other very close. But a VE auto should get pulled on by a 5th gen auto. And DAMN!!! The s/c's cost more for the 5th gen, that is jacked up...DAMN STEALIN!
06-11-2002, 10:04 PM
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Yeah, I know back in the days I tried to see if Vortech would sale it direct, but they want no part of the buyers, just the wholesalers.
Yeah, I know back in the days I tried to see if Vortech would sale it direct, but they want no part of the buyers, just the wholesalers.
and thats just the bottom end! the thing thats making me really push away the s/c is that if installed wrong and a coolant leak occurs the s/c has to be romoved in order for u to fix the probelm, imagine 10hrs to change a waterpump forget that. i can do all that at work im just gonna get fed up with the whole thing and not want to bother with it. the removal of the tranny takes about 16hrs as well so theses #'s slowly add up to alot of downtime for the max. so for now a s/c in the future is really a big ?
06-11-2002, 10:11 PM
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Hopefully this won't turn into another VQ vs. VE thread..
but.. i heard of one VE running 14s stock.. this was Czar.. maybe there were others.. but there have been quite a few VQs hitting 14s stock.. VEs are slower by a bit, but not by much.. VQs have more torque and are lighter.. VE autos seem to be real slow compared to it's 5 speed performance.. the VQ autos aren't that much slower in general. The VG is the slowest maxima.. no offense to VG people.. all maximas are good and the 3rd gens styling is great.
but.. i heard of one VE running 14s stock.. this was Czar.. maybe there were others.. but there have been quite a few VQs hitting 14s stock.. VEs are slower by a bit, but not by much.. VQs have more torque and are lighter.. VE autos seem to be real slow compared to it's 5 speed performance.. the VQ autos aren't that much slower in general. The VG is the slowest maxima..
no offense to VG people.. all maximas are good and the 3rd gens styling is great.
06-11-2002, 10:39 PM
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It's not even fair to classify all 3rd gens in the same group...
I mean the VE and VG might as well be completely different cars (no offense).
I hate hearing people talk about like whooping up 3rd gens and how 3rd gens are slow and blah blah, and it turns out they raced a VG auto. lol. You're not gonna find many VE's out there modded...
I've got an auto, but anywhere over 20 and you better be insanely modded, cuz I'll spank you. Geez I swear VE's get no respect.
5spd swap here I come...
Aaron...I posted this on "the other board" a while back. A VE auto guy had 15.2 listed in his sig. He hasnt posted in forever....I think his s/n is Blu Max or something. I couldnt find out any info about it and he didnt return my e-mail.
Also for the record I believe Bryan H (I think) did 14.3 in his VE 5spd N/A...and 13.8 with a 50 shot...
I mean the VE and VG might as well be completely different cars (no offense).
I hate hearing people talk about like whooping up 3rd gens and how 3rd gens are slow and blah blah, and it turns out they raced a VG auto. lol. You're not gonna find many VE's out there modded...
I've got an auto, but anywhere over 20 and you better be insanely modded, cuz I'll spank you.
Geez I swear VE's get no respect.5spd swap here I come...
Aaron...I posted this on "the other board" a while back. A VE auto guy had 15.2 listed in his sig. He hasnt posted in forever....I think his s/n is Blu Max or something. I couldnt find out any info about it and he didnt return my e-mail.
Also for the record I believe Bryan H (I think) did 14.3 in his VE 5spd N/A...and 13.8 with a 50 shot...
06-12-2002, 01:16 AM
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Originally posted by dmontzmax
I agree with James, a majority of 3rd gens are slow...VG...buy you will run into one that will make you sit down
I agree with James, a majority of 3rd gens are slow...VG...buy you will run into one that will make you sit down
ive been killed a few times as well, ran into a sleeper turbo civic, i got onwed BAD!
i dont do very well against any modded turbo eclipses as well, any time i heat that pssssssssh sound i know im screwed. oh well cant win em all, Peace
06-12-2002, 08:01 AM
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As far as this VE or VG goes I have had both. A VG auto damn slow and a VE 5spd kinda quick but. I had every bolt-on imaginable on my VE and it still felt sluggish. The 3rd gens are just plain heavy at 3600lbs with me in the car. I now have a 98 I30t 5pd and there is no comparison. I will say this though my VE at 120mph+ surely built mph faster than my VQ even with intake and exhaust. I miss that toppend for sure but from a start or roll a 4th gen will pull a 3rd any day.
06-12-2002, 08:56 AM
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Originally posted by NYCe MaXiMa
Hopefully this won't turn into another VQ vs. VE thread..
but.. i heard of one VE running 14s stock.. this was Czar.. maybe there were others.. but there have been quite a few VQs hitting 14s stock.. VEs are slower by a bit, but not by much.. VQs have more torque and are lighter.. VE autos seem to be real slow compared to it's 5 speed performance.. the VQ autos aren't that much slower in general. The VG is the slowest maxima.. no offense to VG people.. all maximas are good and the 3rd gens styling is great.
Hopefully this won't turn into another VQ vs. VE thread..
but.. i heard of one VE running 14s stock.. this was Czar.. maybe there were others.. but there have been quite a few VQs hitting 14s stock.. VEs are slower by a bit, but not by much.. VQs have more torque and are lighter.. VE autos seem to be real slow compared to it's 5 speed performance.. the VQ autos aren't that much slower in general. The VG is the slowest maxima..
no offense to VG people.. all maximas are good and the 3rd gens styling is great.
06-12-2002, 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by James12345
Aaron...I posted this on "the other board" a while back. A VE auto guy had 15.2 listed in his sig. He hasnt posted in forever....I think his s/n is Blu Max or something. I couldnt find out any info about it and he didnt return my e-mail.
Aaron...I posted this on "the other board" a while back. A VE auto guy had 15.2 listed in his sig. He hasnt posted in forever....I think his s/n is Blu Max or something. I couldnt find out any info about it and he didnt return my e-mail.
06-12-2002, 12:10 PM
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Originally posted by Maximus1000
I've never hear of a stock auto running anywhere close to 15.2. Thats hard to believe when a 4th gen auto with more toruqe runs in the mid to high 15s at best. Weren't the 4th gens lighter as well? I'm curious to see some proof of this run. I know the mod with a red VE 5spd with pretty much all the bolt ons runs 14.4. Eitherway, I'm not really too concerned if I run into one.....
I've never hear of a stock auto running anywhere close to 15.2. Thats hard to believe when a 4th gen auto with more toruqe runs in the mid to high 15s at best. Weren't the 4th gens lighter as well? I'm curious to see some proof of this run. I know the mod with a red VE 5spd with pretty much all the bolt ons runs 14.4. Eitherway, I'm not really too concerned if I run into one.....
(that is if you only count engine mods. suspension and brakes don't count.
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At Stillen I looked in the doors of my 3rd gen compared to all the 4th gens, and the weight was about 70lbs less than the 4th gens.
06-12-2002, 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by Matt93SE
Uhhhh, I have an intake and UDP and ran a 15.0 the only time I was at a track.
(that is if you only count engine mods. suspension and brakes don't count. )
Uhhhh, I have an intake and UDP and ran a 15.0 the only time I was at a track.
(that is if you only count engine mods. suspension and brakes don't count.
)
06-12-2002, 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by Aaron92SE
I did a search last night an I found Blu Max had 15.3 in his sig for a VE Auto that is already sold. I emailed him, he just hasn't replied back yet. I would love to know what things he did to run that time.
I did a search last night an I found Blu Max had 15.3 in his sig for a VE Auto that is already sold. I emailed him, he just hasn't replied back yet. I would love to know what things he did to run that time.
06-12-2002, 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by Maximus1000
I thought your homepage said 14.4. Oh wait, I think there was a green VE that said 14.4....sorry!
I thought your homepage said 14.4. Oh wait, I think there was a green VE that said 14.4....sorry!