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Holden says the Caprice PPV will be made available with direct-injection 3.6-litre petrol V6 and Active Fuel management-equipped 6.0-litre petrol V8 engines – both of which will be E85 ethanol-capable.
A range of specialised equipment includes an additional boot-mounted battery for powering police paraphernalia, compatibility with in-dash touch-screen computer technology, sculpted front seats designed to “pocket” the equipment belts of police personnel and the option of front-seat-only side curtain airbags, which allow a full-width rear-seat safety barrier.
According to GM, the Caprice PPV offers a number of advantages over its most direct competitors, including the Crown Victoria, such as an interior volume of 3173 litres and 130mm more rear legroom.
Unlike the Crown Victoria, the Caprice’s 510-litre boot is large enough to accommodate a full-size spare tyre under a flat load surface.
Other unique components include a high-output alternator, engine oil and transmission coolers, standard 18-inch steel wheels with bolt-on centre caps, four-wheel disc brakes with heavy-duty brake pads, heavy-duty suspension components and a police-calibrated stability control system.
The Caprice PPV also features spotlights, power window and door lockouts, high-wear seating materials and a driver information display in the instrument cluster with a selectable speed tracking feature. An ‘undercover’ street-appearance package will also be offered.
Perfect timing GM just when PD's are looking for fuel efficient vehicles for the city and already have several interstate cruisers to choose from.
FAIL again.
GM - do a google search "police departments fuel efficiency"
they are making a police vehical that gets good mileage, they arent making a hybrid to use as a police car
and it IS perfect timing considering the Crown Vic is already a fleet only car and will no longer be produced soon
as i've said before, cops want a big car with power that can hit **** when they need to
not a little plastic car that gets 80mpg and blown off the road
but the guys driving them arent exactly screaming their praises
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Is there any corvette's that are close power to a maxima? I saw one that didnt really seem fast it was a newer model, but not that new... I dont know any corvette models and it didnt have any badging so I couldnt tell what it was.
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Aaron, you're great.
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i will never tell him this in person but bigles' car is hawt
let me guess you want to see lapd chasing people down with prius/insight cop cars?
dey see me rollin'
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RWD = fun? Yeah, maybe if you only watch Fast and Furious Tokyo Drift.
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Is there any corvette's that are close power to a maxima? I saw one that didnt really seem fast it was a newer model, but not that new... I dont know any corvette models and it didnt have any badging so I couldnt tell what it was.
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Aaron, you're great.
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i will never tell him this in person but bigles' car is hawt
Sounds okay but are the benefits worth the added expense of getting an Aussie car certified for use here in the USA? Everytime one comes in crashed or needing Aussie only parts, it has to sit.
I would have thought a Dodge Magnum would be better. Even if they have to put them back into production to do it.
Perfect timing GM just when PD's are looking for fuel efficient vehicles for the city and already have several interstate cruisers to choose from.
FAIL again.
GM - do a google search "police departments fuel efficiency"
Seems like it's getting pretty good praise in terms of what it offers and in fuel economy, from police officers. The DI V6 option will certainly offer better economy than Dodge or Ford's offerings. Maybe you should have Google'd that.
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im friggin scared of crown vics, those things have power. worst memory is i live across a school, and i guess there was arson and drug dealing going on and i was working in the trunk of my 3rd gen. 4 crown vics pull up to me and i shi!t a brick thinking i did something, they all peeled out, flew over the curb, and hauled arse across the field. Kinda considering buying a ex police car crown vic for a few grand but they get abused pretty hard by cops
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Kinda considering buying a ex police car crown vic for a few grand but they get abused pretty hard by cops
Look for a Federal Marshall or local F.D. car then. Usually treated well and don't have as much gear in them but still have the heavy duty cooling, brakes, suspension, electrical, and transmission package.
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im friggin scared of crown vics, those things have power. worst memory is i live across a school, and i guess there was arson and drug dealing going on and i was working in the trunk of my 3rd gen. 4 crown vics pull up to me and i shi!t a brick thinking i did something, they all peeled out, flew over the curb, and hauled arse across the field. Kinda considering buying a ex police car crown vic for a few grand but they get abused pretty hard by cops
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Look for a Federal Marshall or local F.D. car then. Usually treated well and don't have as much gear in them but still have the heavy duty cooling, brakes, suspension, electrical, and transmission package.
Better yet, look for a late model B4C Camaro
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RWD = fun? Yeah, maybe if you only watch Fast and Furious Tokyo Drift.
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Is there any corvette's that are close power to a maxima? I saw one that didnt really seem fast it was a newer model, but not that new... I dont know any corvette models and it didnt have any badging so I couldnt tell what it was.
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Aaron, you're great.
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i will never tell him this in person but bigles' car is hawt
but the guys driving them arent exactly screaming their praises
I have friends in the Oregon State Police and they like the Chargers just fine. They drive them every day, take them home and from what I have heard from them, no problems. Positive comments about power, handling, traction control and overall police car qualities.
It looks like GM put a little bit more thought into the Caprice as a dedicated police vehicle, but I think MPG and overall cost might be factors if sales are slow.
IMO, price will be the biggest factor in sales between GM and Dodge. If the price is similar, GM could grab a lot of sales.
The Chargers have MDS in the Hemi engine for reasonable mpg and still have a lot of power. I also have a feeling GM will charge a premium for a vehicle they have to make special for police and not everyone else. Most of the Chargers are R/T civilian models with some extra police things added on.
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Seems like it's getting pretty good praise in terms of what it offers and in fuel economy, from police officers. The DI V6 option will certainly offer better economy than Dodge or Ford's offerings. Maybe you should have Google'd that.
Dodge offers the Charger with a V6 police package. Our city has a couple of them, including the chief's unmarked unit.
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let me guess you want to see lapd chasing people down with prius/insight cop cars?
Chases? Ha that's a joke anymore, more like Helicopter rally around the city.. NYPD is leading the charge with over 100 hybrid vehicles and I know my area is testing them also.
4-6 MPG with all the crap on the car and idling all the time isn't something they can afford unless we all want a tax rate like Sweden.
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Chases? Ha that's a joke anymore, more like Helicopter rally around the city.. NYPD is leading the charge with over 100 hybrid vehicles and I know my area is testing them also.
You sure don't know how to get your facts straight. Try about 40 hybrid Altimas on regular patrol duty. In NYC, given the traffic there a hybrid certainly makes sense. In other areas they would be a complete waste as miles actually patrolled by a vehicle is much greater and don't spend as much time idling. Also, not all cities have helicopter fleets like the NYPD. How about putting things in proper perspective for your next post?
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4-6 MPG with all the crap on the car and idling all the time isn't something they can afford unless we all want a tax rate like Sweden.
Talking about a Caprice here, not a H2.
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Illinois State Police has had Chargers for some time but Chicago never ran them. AZ DPS has (lamentably) switched over to the Wimpala. Truthfully, they need to re-evaluate.
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[quote=Blown330;7242211]You sure don't know how to get your facts straight. Try about 40 hybrid Altimas on regular patrol duty. In NYC, given the traffic there a hybrid certainly makes sense. In other areas they would be a complete waste as miles actually patrolled by a vehicle is much greater and don't spend as much time idling. Also, not all cities have helicopter fleets like the NYPD. How about putting things in proper perspective for your next post?
Actually I do have my facts straight... I never said they were all Altima's....
"While the Altima hybrids are the first alternate fuel vehicles to be used as regular police cars, the NYPD already uses hybrid vehicles in its parking enforcement fleet as well as electric scooters. The Police Department also has 10 GMC Yukon Hybrid SUVs employed by NYPD Duty Captains for marked patrol. Additionally, police officers utilize T-3 personal movers in city parks, stadiums and beaches. The Nissan Altima Hybrids account for 40 of over 100 total hybrid vehicles the Department is expected to deploy this year."
"The Nissan Altima Hybrids will bring to over 170 the total number of hybrid vehicles the Department is expected to deploy this year."
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[/u][/b] "The Nissan Altima Hybrids will bring to over 170 the total number of hybrid vehicles the Department is expected to deploy this year."
Talking about actual patrol vehicles but given the "anything-hybrid-counts" perspective then NYC is hardly leading the charge considering LAPD, Chicago PD, and others have PC fleets exceeding 200 units alone. Still haven't justified how this Caprice is going to get 4 - 6 mpg seeing as the LSx cars in general seem to get better economy than average.
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Talking about actual patrol vehicles but given the "anything-hybrid-counts" perspective then NYC is hardly leading the charge considering LAPD, Chicago PD, and others have PC fleets exceeding 200 units alone. Still haven't justified how this Caprice is going to get 4 - 6 mpg seeing as the LSx cars in general seem to get better economy than average.
Fail... I feel like I'm having a conversation with a 13 y/o....
So now your actually telling me that other cities, i.e. LAPD, Chicago and others have Hybrids, oh and some have up to 200 units alone.
I guess based on your previous assessment you had better call the LAPD, Chicago PD and others to tell them to return their Hybrids....
Wow I haven't seen a person do a 180 that fast in a long time.
Cops pull over people and the car sits and idle....
Result = 0 MPG at that point.
Cops speed to catch people or get to another location in an emergency... Result = very low mpg at that point.
Have you ever seen a cop turn off their engine when not moving?
Have you ever seen a cop drive in a fuel efficient manner?
Glad you NOW agree that departments are using hybrids in the city, you exclaimed earlier that
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You sure don't know how to get your facts straight. Try about 40 hybrid Altimas on regular patrol duty. In NYC, given the traffic there a hybrid certainly makes sense. In other areas they would be a complete waste as miles actually patrolled by a vehicle is much greater and don't spend as much time idling. Also, not all cities have helicopter fleets like the NYPD. How about putting things in proper perspective for your next post?
Glad to see you have my perspective now.
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So now your actually telling me that other cities, i.e. LAPD, Chicago and others have Hybrids, oh and some have up to 200 units alone.
Did I ever say they didn't? My point is that NYC isn't breaking new ground here. Maybe if you could read worth a **** you might have caught that.
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I guess based on your previous assessment you had better call the LAPD, Chicago PD and others to tell them to return their Hybrids....
I guess based on this post you are having trouble reading with your head stuffed in your *** like that.
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Cops pull over people and the car sits and idle....
Result = 0 MPG at that point.
Cops speed to catch people or get to another location in an emergency... Result = very low mpg at that point.
Have you ever seen a cop turn off their engine when not moving?
Have you ever seen a cop drive in a fuel efficient manner?
These are hybrids retard. ANYTIME the cops are driving these vehicles hard they are going to burn fuel. Given the fact the high electrical loads these vehicles require will probably result in less-than-advertised fuel economy compared to the average driver. If the cops pulls someone over and the car idles the gas engine is running to keep up with electrical demand. Result : 0 mpg.
Somewhere in AZ a bench is missing its retard.
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Did I ever say they didn't? My point is that NYC isn't breaking new ground here. Maybe if you could read worth a **** you might have caught that.
I guess based on this post you are having trouble reading with your head stuffed in your *** like that.
These are hybrids retard. ANYTIME the cops are driving these vehicles hard they are going to burn fuel. Given the fact the high electrical loads these vehicles require will probably result in less-than-advertised fuel economy compared to the average driver. If the cops pulls someone over and the car idles the gas engine is running to keep up with electrical demand. Result : 0 mpg.
Somewhere in AZ a bench is missing its retard.
Real simple let me explain it again:
NYC specifically NYPD is a leader in Hybird use, Law Enforcement is looking for improved fuel efficiency in the city, that is a fact and you actually helped support my point with your comments about Chicago, LAPD, etc having over 200 Hybrids. I don't have any idea where you got your numbers but I can believe it.
Yes Hybrids aren't the end all for any city PD, however I think with all of the idling handing out tickets, traffic control, accidents, etc they could save some of my precious tax dollars wasted on gas.
This Caprice brings nothing to the Law Enforcement Community that they don't already have access to, i.e. Charger's, Yukon's, Impala's, Crown Vic's, etc.
GM is going to lose money (IMHO) importing this modified Holden variant to the states. They'd be better off offering the ZO6 as Highway Patrol Interceptors at least that would make more sense and help keep more American's at work.
Calling me a retard only confirmed you have the intellect of a 13 y/o, I hope you like enjoy your Jonas Bros concerts.
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Looks like los angeles is taking some of its ideas from NYC, because every parking enforcement officer I see is using the last gen(before this one) prius hybrid on their runs, police in many crowded places are using segway type personal movers as well.
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Let me make it real simple for you. NYC is NOT leading anything here except an en masse approach which is getting them up to or somewhat above par compared to other major metropolitan areas. Even the small cities around here have had traffic cops on Segways YEARS ago. NYPD is doing NOTHING new. They are just catching up and making news by spending a lot of money and making a big deal about it.
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This Caprice brings nothing to the Law Enforcement Community that they don't already have access to, i.e. Charger's, Yukon's, Impala's, Crown Vic's, etc.
Obviously giving PD's a car that offers more capability and better fuel economy than the competition is lost on you. Obviously the fact these cars will slot into departments where hybrids would be impractical is lost on you.
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GM is going to lose money (IMHO) importing this modified Holden variant to the states. They'd be better off offering the ZO6 as Highway Patrol Interceptors at least that would make more sense and help keep more American's at work.
Yeah, because the low-volume, hand-built LS7 engines are exactly what PD's need to spend a premium on with tax payer's dollars. So GM would have to cut their own wrists to make the cars cheap enough for PD's to buy. That would lose money too.
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Calling me a retard only confirmed you have the intellect of a 13 y/o, I hope you like enjoy your Jonas Bros concerts.
I call a spade a spade. Your pathetic arguments prove you don't know what you are talking about and base worthless opinions accordingly. You are a retard, go find a bench.
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In my town in north jersey they have switched the entire fleet from crown vics to chargers in about a year or two... I gotta say those chargers are beasts and they intimidate the **** outta you.
PD's have been using Chargers for what, three years now? Maybe? I'm sorry, but I would prefer having the last body on frame car in existence (Crown Vics) with a bulletproof, proven 4.6L as my cop car. Crown Vics are TOUGH, and have been around for a long time. They may not be the fastest thing, but I'd love to see a Hemi running as perfectly as the day it was put into service after idling and having the **** beat out of it for at least 12 hours every single day.
PD's have been using Chargers for what, three years now? Maybe? I'm sorry, but I would prefer having the last body on frame car in existence (Crown Vics) with a bulletproof, proven 4.6L as my cop car. Crown Vics are TOUGH, and have been around for a long time. They may not be the fastest thing, but I'd love to see a Hemi running as perfectly as the day it was put into service after idling and having the **** beat out of it for at least 12 hours every single day.
if you are assume cops are beating the crap out of their cars for 12hrs every single day then you are nuts.
the worst thing cops do to their cars is idle them for such a long period
Dodge Chargers still look more aggressive and nicer in general.
Agreed ... NYPD Highway uses the charger. Man, they are badas$
In a super urban area such as NYC, LA, Chicago ... etc ... It's ok to have hybrid police cars ... But in some of the more rural areas where there is less backup and more time can elapse on response time, you would need a car that can go balls to the wall in no time flat.
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