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To Start off I loved the current M features and performance so Im super excited about the Next Gen M. I think Infiniti has been striking gold lately design/performance wise so cant wait for the virtual tour release of the 2011M this Friday the 14th-9:30Eastern/6:30Pacific.....Already trying to figure out how I can afford one once released, so saving my pennies
Nice find, the Essence is the perfect shape i like in cars although the interior is eh.
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The Essence interior and exterior has very bold curves and lines and I think thats whats been giving Infiniti so much success lately is pushing the design barrier. But mark your calender's for Friday I think Infiniti will deliver again.
M50 coupe......... that sounds nice.... can you say 370z is to G37 coupe as GT-R is to M38 coupe / M50 coupe.... saves on cost of GT-R engine to keep price down and Gives Infiniti a coupe to compete against the New E550 and 6 series..the Essence concept showed us the platform and the design study and the engine from the gt-r would be a great choice... but if they don't do it, it could also be the Hybrid technology version infiniti is putting out to compete with BMW's hybird technology would should still be a nice engine ....
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Oh and M56 btw, making around 400 hp, sounds good.
yeah actually they're claiming more than 400hp and torque should be up there two since it sounds like they're using a redisgned Titan/QX56 engine. That was a big surprise to me espically since there current 5 Liter puts out close to 400hp, but hopefully they can keep the weight down
Looks a lot better than most new cars that are out there
i must say i agree...esp with disappointment after disappointment coming from acura...and in all honesty im not really feeling the new E Class as well (looks like an old Q45) infiniti is still pumping out some nice looking vehicles in and out.
Yeah, I'm confused about using the (what I assume is) VK56 motor instead of the redesigned VK50. I haven't heard any news of a redesigned 5.6, but for that motor to go from ~320 HP to over 400 requires a bit of work. I guess it's a good thing, but that 5.0 motor is a freaking gem. It doesn't only make sense to use the 5.0 only on the FX.....save the 5.6 for the upcoming (hopefully) Q car and use the 5.0 in the M.
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The current VK56 (with non-truck cams and an intake manifold thats not 14ft long for making peak power below 5000rpm) could easily make close to 400hp now. But, it looks like they are saying the new 5.6 will be VVEL like the VQ37. That sounds like a pretty substantial redesign but also 400hp will be easy, I bet it will be more like 450hp.
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13.7@102mph as a 5spd
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The current VK50VE has VVEL and makes 390 BHP. I wonder why they wouldn't just go with that.
Maybe they are going to introduce a G50 in addition to the G37 and want to make sure that the flagship M is faster. That is why I am thinking they are saying over 400hp but it will be significantly higher.
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12.9@106mph after 3.5 swap
11.6@120mph with the S/C
The current VK50VE has VVEL and makes 390 BHP. I wonder why they wouldn't just go with that.
It might have something to do with trying to put this vehicle and its engine into as many markets in the future, thus by doing so it would need to be able to run on various fuel blends and hit all future emission targets of the major countries it would be sold in.
thats just a hunch on why they would do something like that. well that and maybe high warranty costs with the old motor.
I dont know why your all questioning using a 5.6 vs a 5.0. Its just a step further in the right direction. If they make 400hp with the 5.6 it will make 400hp over a very broad range, and prob make even more torque, all while being relativly de-tuned compared to what you could make it. If they combine it with the 7sp.. that car is really gonna be pretty serious. Dont even talk about the handling with the bigger motor up front.. who cares.. non of the infinitis really handle AMAZINGLY anyway so a few lbs up front is gonna make any difference.
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11.67 at 120mph 3rd time out
I dont know why your all questioning using a 5.6 vs a 5.0. Its just a step further in the right direction. If they make 400hp with the 5.6 it will make 400hp over a very broad range, and prob make even more torque, all while being relativly de-tuned compared to what you could make it. If they combine it with the 7sp.. that car is really gonna be pretty serious. Dont even talk about the handling with the bigger motor up front.. who cares.. non of the infinitis really handle AMAZINGLY anyway so a few lbs up front is gonna make any difference.
Maybe because they just released a new, more awesome version of the 4.5 (5.0) that's more suited for cars, and there's been no news of a revamped 5.6, which has always been a truck engine.
Maybe because they just released a new, more awesome version of the 4.5 (5.0) that's more suited for cars, and there's been no news of a revamped 5.6, which has always been a truck engine.
Theres really no such thing as a "truck" or "car" engine.
Remember I used to sell Infinitis I'm aware of the engine options and lineup.
I would think Infiniti would use the 5.0L, in fact thats what we were told was coming about the time I left, but hell the 5.6 is even better
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Ls1/T56 W/ Ported TB and Full Exhaust
11.67 at 120mph 3rd time out
I read that infiniti lost a law suit with BMW where they tried to get the rights to the M50 designation.. BMW said it was too close to the M5 so maybe in retaliation they are using their more powerful 5.6 V8. wthier way this engine will not be manufactured the same as the QX56 engine and we probably havent heard anything about this new enginer because its not finished yet hench a 3D unveiling instead of bringing the actual car to the show. By fall we should probably hear more about the engine when we get a full press release on the car.
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Theres really no such thing as a "truck" or "car" engine.
Remember I used to sell Infinitis I'm aware of the engine options and lineup.
I would think Infiniti would use the 5.0L, in fact thats what we were told was coming about the time I left, but hell the 5.6 is even better
Hey man, I wasn't talking down to your or anything, I know you know your stuff. And yes, I'm well aware there is no such thing as a "truck" engine...I was just making the point that the engine would need heavy revision to be well suited for use in sports sedan in terms of its powerband.
Theres really no such thing as a "truck" or "car" engine.
Not EXACTLY, but there are differences. Just look at the vq's. The "truck" versions have longer intake runners for more low end power and things like that.
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Not EXACTLY, but there are differences. Just look at the vq's. The "truck" versions have longer intake runners for more low end power and things like that.
Hey man, I wasn't talking down to your or anything, I know you know your stuff. And yes, I'm well aware there is no such thing as a "truck" engine...I was just making the point that the engine would need heavy revision to be well suited for use in sports sedan in terms of its powerband.
Yeah man I know. Hopefully I didnt come off as snappy but work has been stressing me out a bit but yeah it would be very easy for nissan to make the 5.6 into a more of a "car" engine, like kevlo said, intake runner length, cams, maybe a bump in compression and revised exhaust and your probably there.
This is pretty easy stuff for a manufacturer. Again. I think the 5.0 would drop right in and be the smarter business decision.. but as an enthusiast, if they want to go above and beyond in terms of power, hey I'm all for that.
I think everyone would be, thats why I'm wondering why people are even thinking about extra weight of the bigger engine or things like that. Its still an aluminum block so the difference between a 5.0 aluminum engine and 5.6 aluminum engine is not really going to be noticible by anyone. If we were going from an aluminum 5.0 to an iron block 5.6 or something that would be different.
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Progress RSB, Otto FSTB, Michellin Pilot Sports A/S, Eibach Springs, Illumina Shocks, Fx35 Brakes Rotors/Calipers, Custom SFCs 1989 Mazda Rx7 GTU
Ls1/T56 W/ Ported TB and Full Exhaust
11.67 at 120mph 3rd time out
M37 was probably fast enough and they had to make sure there was a big difference between two models so they moved up to 5.6 engine.
nissan never really uses truck engines in cars(240sx excepted), especially when this engine has serious quality issues. I expect they simply increased displacement on the 5.0 to 5.6.
And even with 430+hp it still won't measure upto S6,M5 or any AMG
I'm not complaining about them using a 5.6, but it is weird to see a Japanese sedan with such a large displacement V8...When you think of 5+ liter V8s in cars, you just think American.
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I'm not complaining about them using a 5.6, but it is weird to see a Japanese sedan with such a large displacement V8...When you think of 5+ liter V8s in cars, you just think American.
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I can see them using either the 5.0 or the 5.6 . Maybe they will make a real flagship sedan(Q already stopped, needs a real sedan) and keep the 5.6 for that?
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