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Honda's CR-Z hybrid coupe remains on track as a 2011 model, on sale in late 2010. Honda wants sports-car enthusiasts to buy it not because it's green, but because it's fun. The carmaker considered doing a non-hybrid version of the CR-Z, but it desperately wants to be seen as a hybrid supplier on par with Toyota and believes it needs a range of dedicated hybrid-only models to achieve that.
So the CR-Z gets a lively 140-horse, 1.8-liter Civic-derived engine. The IMA system -- motor, battery, electronics -- will be like the Insight's, as will the platform, to save cost. A senior engineer says, "It must be fun to drive, must remind you of the original CRX." And a manual gearbox will be offered. "CVT is fine for the market, mostly. But we are Honda! We must have a manual!"
As a two-seater, the CR-Z's smaller body mass versus the Insight should make up for the weight of the bigger engine, brakes, and tires. So a 2800-pound total, with lots of electric-assist torque and a revvy gasoline engine, should make it the real deal as a pocket performance coupe.
Honda has trimmed back its sports cars. President Takeo Fukui said the company has canceled the Acura NSX replacement, though engineers say it may simply be deferred. And the rear-drive Acura range has been canceled. Honda is out of Formula 1. So the CR-Z must be to Honda in the 2010s what the CRX was to Honda in the 1980s.
The other leg of Honda's small-car hybrid tripod, the Fit hybrid, also is going ahead for a '10 release. To give the Insight a lower overall height than the Fit, for reduced aero drag at highway speeds, the fuel tank was moved from under the front seats in the Fit to under the rear seats in the Insight. Speeds in the EPA test aren't high enough to make aerodynamics a factor, so the Fit hybrid may match the Insight's fuel economy label, and offer more space and versatility, for less money. It will interesting to see how the marketing guys handle that one.
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09 370Z, Chicane Yellow, and yes it's a manual!
Nice looking concept, but wtf is with the brakes? Nicely sized brakes up front and tiny, almost nonexistent brakes in the back. Too bad the actual car won't look nearly as cool as this concept.
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non of those three things inspire anything resembling peformance to me.
and i see it having a dsg type of box not a tru stick due to how these type of "hybrid" drivetrains work.
I was thinking the same thing.
It looks OK, but no real performance. Maybe it goes fast from 0-20 mph due to torque from the elecric motor, but I can't even see it running 14s with 140 hp.
Here's an idea: take that body, drop the Civic Si drivetrain into it, and ( ) call it the CRX, and call it a day. Homos that drive hybrids are not cool enough to drive a sportscar anyhow.
Here's an idea: take that body, drop the Civic Si drivetrain into it, and ( ) call it the CRX, and call it a day. Homos that drive hybrids are not cool enough to drive a sportscar anyhow.
CR-Z...just sounds like CR-V
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09 Maxima SV, Winter Frost
09 370Z, Chicane Yellow, and yes it's a manual!
It looks OK, but no real performance. Maybe it goes fast from 0-20 mph due to torque from the elecric motor, but I can't even see it running 14s with 140 hp.
Kind of sporty like a CRX HF.
I will go on a limb and say its prob 140hp with the electric motor, if thats the case it isnt going anywhere fast.
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Originally Posted by irish44j
Sad sad sad.
Here's an idea: take that body, drop the Civic Si drivetrain into it, and ( ) call it the CRX, and call it a day. Homos that drive hybrids are not cool enough to drive a sportscar anyhow.
CR-Z...just sounds like CR-V
This...
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Originally Posted by MaxLoverAz
Highly doubt it's a DSG that would be kick *** actually....
Well if its a true manual I would prepare to be let down some what. just on how the hybrid systems work you need to be able to control the driving and keep the driver in the dark.
That and the tq an electric motor makes off idle would kill most clutches due to people not operating it properly.
There's no way in hell that the production model will look like this. I'll probably be just an Insight with a small "S" badge on it
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Oh I'll show you a dingy. A reaaaaaaaaaaal small one.
) call it the CRX, and call it a day. Homos that drive hybrids are not cool enough to drive a sportscar anyhow.
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