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I hope that the gxp won't have an msrp of more than 35k...doesn't the gt start at 30k or somethin and the v6 at like 26k????? if the quality is a step better than what the GTO it should be a nice quality car for the price. if it can float under 40k nicely equiped...would be nice to keep it under the srt8 prices for greater marketability...
Just looked at the estimated curb weight and it's in excess of 3900lbs....yeah, ummm no thanks. Or at least until I see how GM is going to tune this car so that it's at the very least comparable to the SRT8's (not saying a whole lot imho)
Just looked at the estimated curb weight and it's in excess of 3900lbs....yeah, ummm no thanks.
I dunno 'bout all that.... A chassis that can handle 430 HP has to be beefed up appropriately. For reference, 430 HP = 9 lb per HP = better power/weight ratio than a $110K Aston V8 Vantage... that's not impressive for a $35K car? It's a damn sight better than the 15 lb per HP out of your 5th gen, but to each his own... Even the standard GT's 361 HP = 10.8 lb per HP, which will still run circles around any generation of Maxima.
Apparently your math is terrible. The G8 has the advantage in power to weight. A LOWER lbs.-per-HP number is better, not a higher one. Why would you want each HP hauling more weight? Think about it.
Also, I severely doubt he was trying to directly compare the Vantage to the G8, I think we all know they have nothing in common but four wheels.
Just looked at the estimated curb weight and it's in excess of 3900lbs....yeah, ummm no thanks. Or at least until I see how GM is going to tune this car so that it's at the very least comparable to the SRT8's (not saying a whole lot imho)
the srt8 is a pretty quick capable car in good hands.
That's a difference 351lbs and 50hp that gives a Aston 0.29hp advantage over the G8, yes?
Now, math isn't and has never been my thing so if my calculations are wrong correct me, but how is there a better power/weight ratio with the G8 vs. the Vantage??
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Apparently your math is terrible. The G8 has the advantage in power to weight. A LOWER lbs.-per-HP number is better, not a higher one. Why would you want each HP hauling more weight? Think about it.
Also, I severely doubt he was trying to directly compare the Vantage to the G8, I think we all know they have nothing in common but four wheels.
yeah your right, after a second look I proved him correct.
I stand corrected.
the srt8 is a pretty quick capable car in good hands.
True, but when I drove one last year it felt heavy. You could feel the weight being thrown around and as much as in it felt "quick" it didn't really feel "nimble"
I suppose it's not really meant to, but I just didn't like the sluggish feeling
True, but when I drove one last year it felt heavy. You could feel the weight being thrown around and as much as in it felt "quick" it didn't really feel "nimble"
I suppose it's not really meant to, but I just didn't like the sluggish feeling
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Apparently your math is terrible. The G8 has the advantage in power to weight. A LOWER lbs.-per-HP number is better, not a higher one. Why would you want each HP hauling more weight? Think about it.
Also, I severely doubt he was trying to directly compare the Vantage to the G8, I think we all know they have nothing in common but four wheels.
Apparently you've completely misunderstood what I've written. Of course lower numbers are better in the way that I've written it.... If I had chosen to write the inverse (that's 1/x for you mathematically challenged): 430 hp/3900 lb = 0.110, then a higher number would be better. Simple math.... I do that in my sleep. The math I'm paid to do would have your head spin. Read carefully next time.
Of course he's not comparing the G8 to a Vantage. I'm the first one to make that comparison in this thread, and the fact that the G8 GXP will have a better power:weight ratio than the Vantage. You can "yeah, but..." that fact all day long, but it will still slap you in the face.
Edit.... never mind... I just realized you were defending my point.... didn't realize he deleted his post.
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Apparently you've completely misunderstood what I've written. Of course lower numbers are better in the way that I've written it.... If I had chosen to write the inverse (that's 1/x for you mathematically challenged): 430 hp/3900 lb = 0.110, then a higher number would be better. Simple math.... I do that in my sleep. The math I'm paid to do would have your head spin. Read carefully next time.
Of course he's not comparing the G8 to a Vantage. I'm the first one to make that comparison in this thread, and the fact that the G8 GXP will have a better power:weight ratio than the Vantage. You can "yeah, but..." that fact all day long, but it will still slap you in the face.
Edit.... never mind... I just realized you were defending my point.... didn't realize he deleted his post.
Pricing out on the V8 yet? Is it even confirmed? I thought it was sharp at the autoshow.
EDIT - I took some initiative to look. Around 35k with a 0-60 of 4.7 seconds. SOunds like the 7th gen I wished for knowing it would never happen. COunt me in!
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I think this will be the best sedan under $40,000 in terms of performance...its about time GM starts making stuff like this. In GT trim it sounds like a helva car, GXP is insane.
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Right now the G8 is the best sedan for straight line performance/price. I wonder what a chipped 335 could do against it (yeah yeah I know it's more $).
Right now the G8 is the best sedan for straight line performance/price. I wonder what a chipped 335 could do against it (yeah yeah I know it's more $).
On a track...would put my money on the 335i, but who knows. The ones I look at near me (coupes) are all around $48,000...you're talking about paying around 37% more for the BMW. Which is great if you absolutly must have a BMW, but you know the G8 is gonna be a blast for those who cant or dont wanna pony up the extra money. This car has a huge bang for the buck factor that the BMW lacks.
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Right now the G8 is the best sedan for straight line performance/price. I wonder what a chipped 335 could do against it (yeah yeah I know it's more $).
what's the point of comparing apples and oranges. Those cars:
1. don't compete against each other in any kind of market (i.e. full-size sedan vs. midsize sedan/coupe)
2. have nothing in common aside from 4 wheels and good straightline speed
3. people looking at Pontiacs don't usually compare shop at the BMW dealer, and vice-versa.
4. As nice as the G8 looks and as much power as it has, it's still a 4000lb American sedan, which means that it won't come NEAR the handling of a 3500lb BMW, or even a 4000lb BMW.
Both are nice cars, but what's the point in comparing them? Apples and oranges.....
You might as well say "I wonder how it would do against a Turbo'd Civic."
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