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Old 05-30-2004, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by kenji
Uh oh looks like I better finally start saving for my headers.. Hoping Brian's gonna have a killer deal *hint hint*. Better put off the clutch and start granny shifting my car so that I can get the headers instead. Hopefully Cattman will discount the headers at the same magnitude as the y-pipe (percentage wise) *hint hint*.

okay im done now


After learning the same lesson about 20 times over, I've finally figured out that its not such a great idea (from the seller's perspective) to give too much advance notice or details about sales. I realize the buyer's perspective is different, but this is a business rather than a hobby...

That said, I do have a large batch of headers that will arrive later in June, and it would make sense do some promotion to kick that off, and there's not much point in doing a sale if you can't offer an attractive price, so...

...keep an eye on this group deal forum. There won't be advance notice, but the sale will run for two weeks.

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What kind of gains can be expected with this y-pipe. Im in PA, and I don't beleive they do a visual inspection, will the removal of the two pre cats affect the reading on my exhaust once its nice and warm.

In terms of gains for our YG5A pipe for the VQ35DE engine, my most conservative dyno results came from the test of our prototype pipe on a bone-stock 03, with an automatic. In that test, the torque convertor didn't kick in till 3800, but from there to 6200 rpm the average gain was 8 hp and 8 ft/lb of torque. Maximum gains over stock were 16 hp @4400 rpm and 19 ft/lb torque @4800 rpm.

Those results are pretty good, though if the y-pipe was dynoed on an engine with a good intake and catback exhaust, they would be better.

When the topic of using y-pipes on the street or passing emissions tests come up I have to mention that the y-pipes we make for the 95-01 Maximas DO involve removing one or both pre-cats and are not approved for use on public streets and highways, but your profile indicates you're shopping for your 03 Maxima.

The y-pipe we designed for 02/03 Maximas (and 02-04 I35s) with VQ35DE engines DOES NOT involve removing either one of the pre-cats - we've achieved these gains even though both remain in place on your car. I'd probably have to go through an expensive certification process to be able to say the part is street legal, but I can say that the y-pipe doesn't do anything to your emissions equipment.

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Alright Im sold then, when are we looking to ship? I have an exhaust specialist that will install within the next week, my bolts are RUSTED, any ideas? I don't mind paying to install, but it is an easy process. Paypals good for me, let me know
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In terms of gains for our YG5A pipe for the VQ35DE engine, my most conservative dyno results came from the test of our prototype pipe on a bone-stock 03, with an automatic. In that test, the torque convertor didn't kick in till 3800, but from there to 6200 rpm the average gain was 8 hp and 8 ft/lb of torque. Maximum gains over stock were 16 hp @4400 rpm and 19 ft/lb torque @4800 rpm.

Those results are pretty good, though if the y-pipe was dynoed on an engine with a good intake and catback exhaust, they would be better.

When the topic of using y-pipes on the street or passing emissions tests come up I have to mention that the y-pipes we make for the 95-01 Maximas DO involve removing one or both pre-cats and are not approved for use on public streets and highways, but your profile indicates you're shopping for your 03 Maxima.

The y-pipe we designed for 02/03 Maximas (and 02-04 I35s) with VQ35DE engines DOES NOT involve removing either one of the pre-cats - we've achieved these gains even though both remain in place on your car. I'd probably have to go through an expensive certification process to be able to say the part is street legal, but I can say that the y-pipe doesn't do anything to your emissions equipment.

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Get some sockets with lifetime warranty or craftsman ones, which will save you in the long run if you break a couple. When my friend was removing his old y-pipe he broke two sockets. Just bring em down to sears and they’ll pretty much just tell you to go grab the new ones.

Brian, I was hinting only to show interest. I don't expect you to just advertise ahead of time, as I know you are a good businessman and one who wouldn't go and announce something he doesn't have in stock yet.

By the way while we are on the subject, what's the latest news on dynos for the headers, possibly ones that were ceramic coated?

Maybe this is distorting your f/s forum, but think of it as a free bump. It seems an easy way to get your attention is to ask questions in your own threads
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i just ordered mine today!! i cant wait!

correct me if im wrong but you can tell the difference between cali & fed spec by the number of wiring plugs in front the engine for the O2 sensors... 4 = cali, 3 = fed. right?
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Originally Posted by AudioXtrme
Alright Im sold then, when are we looking to ship? I have an exhaust specialist that will install within the next week, my bolts are RUSTED, any ideas? I don't mind paying to install, but it is an easy process. Paypals good for me, let me know
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This isn't a deal that requires waiting for orders to pile up, and then ship, we seldom do deals that way. We've had inventory on the shelf from the start and as soon as you order, we'll send it out. Call in the morning and that will be same-day shipment.

Bet suggestion on the rusted bolts is to start spraying a corrosion loosener (I'm thinking of WD40, but there are more effective brands out there) on the nuts you're going to have to loose, and do every day or so till your installation appointment.

I can take PayPal, but prefer credit cards - we take all the major ones. I use paypal primarily between myself and the companies that distribute our parts, so its not set up conveniently for you (sorry about that), but if that's what works for you, just send me an email and we'll work out an invoice that I can send to your PayPal account.

We appreciate your business.

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Originally Posted by kenji
Brian, I was hinting only to show interest. I don't expect you to just advertise ahead of time, as I know you are a good businessman and one who wouldn't go and announce something he doesn't have in stock yet.

By the way while we are on the subject, what's the latest news on dynos for the headers, possibly ones that were ceramic coated?

Maybe this is distorting your f/s forum, but think of it as a free bump. It seems an easy way to get your attention is to ask questions in your own threads
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I appreciate the interest in the headers (and the bump!).

I do have additional header dyno info, send me an email at bcatts@cattman.com and I'll flick you some data. The only non-ceramic coated headers shipped to North America were the ones I prototyped on my car.

You're right, as much as I'd like to generally monitor maxima.org, I don't have time to follow much more than the threads I start myself (or those someone gives me a heads-up about).

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Originally Posted by TEEdotMAX
i just ordered mine today!! i cant wait!

correct me if im wrong but you can tell the difference between cali & fed spec by the number of wiring plugs in front the engine for the O2 sensors... 4 = cali, 3 = fed. right?


You're on the right track, there are two O2 sensors on the Feds, four on the CA/NLEV, but the best way to tell is by looking at the row of electrical couplings on the front of the engine. If you'd like to send me email at bcatts@cattman.com, I'll be glad to reply with a picture of the diagram we use to illustrate this - pretty fail-safe.

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Brian,
From a customer stand point, i am assuming you have one on your 97 Maxima, how do you like it? How soon does the power hit? Did you have any issues after installation?
Your reply isn't going to negatively affect my buying decision i can assure you on that. I have a 99 Max SE Auto and just want to gather some facts.
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Can I have a shipping quote for 43230 via PM?
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LAST DAY for Cattman y-pipe sale

Last day of the sale - all 95-03 Cattman y-pipes available for immediate shipment, marked down from $350 to $289. For more details, go to beginning of the thread.

Call 800.759.9920 to order (8-5 MST, M-F)

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Originally Posted by a_prince1
Brian,
From a customer stand point, i am assuming you have one on your 97 Maxima, how do you like it? How soon does the power hit? Did you have any issues after installation?
Your reply isn't going to negatively affect my buying decision i can assure you on that. I have a 99 Max SE Auto and just want to gather some facts.
Thanks.

Sorry I overlooked this and didn't respond right away. The y-pipe makes power across the entire rpm range, with the biggest margins (over a stock y-pipe) in the 3500-5500rpm range. These designs are well tested and mature, and you should expect no post-installation problems. Make sure you know which emissions sytem you have (Federal or CA/NLEV) so that you order the correct pipe.

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Catbaaaaaaaaaaaaaack specials!!!!!!!! We want it, Must have it!!!!!


btw: Cattman Y's rok. very nice craftsmanship. Keep ur cheap Budget Y's
.....too bad i bought mine right before this special
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Brian,

You mentioned a group deal on headers. Any new developments there?
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I am very much interested in the header group deal as well, if there will be one...
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I too am interested in headers.
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Same here, i been waiting for a while now
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Brian, what is the possibility of you doing a Catback group deal? for 4th gens and 5th gens?
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so how about that group deal on the headers? will there be one in the works?
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Hi Brian,

Any chance for a GD on the complete exhaust system for 95/96, the one listed on your site presently at $1145?

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Catback?

Brian very intrested in your catback system for my 2000 Maxima. Can we get a approx date this might begin? As far as I can tell there are at least 5 to 6 people intrested allready. Any estimate would be apprecaited.
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Originally Posted by Seximus Maximus
Catbaaaaaaaaaaaaaack specials!!!!!!!! We want it, Must have it!!!!!


btw: Cattman Y's rok. very nice craftsmanship. Keep ur cheap Budget Y's
.....too bad i bought mine right before this special

Much to my annoyance, my supplier has been backed up catbacks. Should have 95-99s by early next week, but many are already committed to backorders. We can't give advance notice on group sales.

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Originally Posted by Stephen Max
Brian,

You mentioned a group deal on headers. Any new developments there?
The headers are fabricated, but have been hung up at HPC in New Zealand (they apply the ceramic coating). Me, my customers, and distributors are frustrated by the delay, but they will hopefully ship (by air) by the end of next week, which means they're about 15 days away.

There is the potential for a group deal, particularly if a distributor doesn't follow through on a commitment to purchase 10 units in advance.

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Originally Posted by Gary95
Hi Brian,

Any chance for a GD on the complete exhaust system for 95/96, the one listed on your site presently at $1145?

Thanks,
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We're working on a new all-metal cat design that will actually make some power (none of the ceramic cats we've tested work better than the stock cat). Until that's ready, our "complete exhaust" is limited to either a y-pipe or header and a catback exhaust (all Cattman Performance brand).

The regular price is $925 for y-pipe (including install kit) + catback - include the header, and the price is $1350. I may do individual sales on the components in the near future, but probably not on the package deal.

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Originally Posted by Kevon1
Brian very intrested in your catback system for my 2000 Maxima. Can we get a approx date this might begin? As far as I can tell there are at least 5 to 6 people intrested allready. Any estimate would be apprecaited.

Seems like all our exhaust parts are backed up in production. 00-03 exhausts are lagging too, but should have more in about 10 days. We have several backorders, so I don't expect to have enough inventory to support a group deal right away.

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Originally Posted by Cattman
Seems like all our exhaust parts are backed up in production. 00-03 exhausts are lagging too, but should have more in about 10 days. We have several backorders, so I don't expect to have enough inventory to support a group deal right away.

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Hi Brian love my Y-pipe. I got screwed by SWA on your Y-pipe I ordered it like three days before you posted your last group deal on your Y-pipes.They got me for $365 with the install kit shipped. Could have saved like $50 bucks if I had known about your group deal. I called them up but they wouldent cut me the same deal even though I hadent rec the pipe yet they said I could return it but with a 20% restock fee. So I would rather cut out the middle man and order my Catback through you as to avoid this happening again. Regardless of group deal. What can you do for me when your shipment comes in? . How much for your catback for my Auto 2000 Maxima SE shipped to a residental or buisness address "which ever is cheaper" in the 10705 zip code. Your response would be greatly appreciated. Thanks ..........Kevon
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Originally Posted by Kevon1
Hi Brian love my Y-pipe. I got screwed by SWA on your Y-pipe I ordered it like three days before you posted your last group deal on your Y-pipes.They got me for $365 with the install kit shipped. Could have saved like $50 bucks if I had known about your group deal. I called them up but they wouldent cut me the same deal even though I hadent rec the pipe yet they said I could return it but with a 20% restock fee. So I would rather cut out the middle man and order my Catback through you as to avoid this happening again. Regardless of group deal. What can you do for me when your shipment comes in? . How much for your catback for my Auto 2000 Maxima SE shipped to a residental or buisness address "which ever is cheaper" in the 10705 zip code. Your response would be greatly appreciated. Thanks ..........Kevon

Kevon,

First of all, I'm glad you like our y-pipe, thanks for the compliment and in the end hope you feel like you got a good value for what you did spend - 99% of the folks out there with CP y-pipes spent just what you did.

I can see why you'd be disappointed, but please don't blame SWAW for this. It was our sale, not theirs. We can't refund the difference in a situation like that to our own customers, so you can hardly expect SWAW to.

I know that retailers like Best Buy or Circuit City have price matching and 30 day "sale protection" policies, but grocery stores, car dealers and most other retailers don't, and small retailers like CP and SWAW can't either. If you bought a new Nissan on a Saturday and they announced a $2000 rebate the next week, you know that they wouldn't be writing a check to you for the difference. And no retailer will tell you in advance when a sale will occur or what the prices are because it will drive a stake through retail sales in the meantime.

At this moment, I anticipate that there will be other CP group deals for maxima.org members, but even if it was a good idea to pre-announce (and its not) I honestly could not tell you when that will be, or what the price is. I'll finally receive a shipment of 95-99 exhausts on Tuesday of this coming week. I expected it three weeks ago at a given price, but didn't find out about the delivery or even what my wholesale unit price will be until last Friday (it went up). Production schedules are backed up due to materials shortages, and steel prices are going through the roof. [Inflation is rampant, despite what the government is telling us, but you won't see the true numbers until after the November election.] I've got so many backorders that I won't have enough parts left to run a 95-99 group group deal by the time they're taken care of - and, the same thing goes for a delivery of 2000-2003 exhausts that I'm waiting for. If I'd made commitments in advance, not only would it depress my retail sales in the meantime, I'd have a bunch of customers mad at us because we couldn't do what we'd committed to.

I don't know if this will help you feel any better about this, but hopefully you can appreciate the perspective from the other side of the (virtual) sales counter. Obviously we welcome direct business with Cattman Performance - we are primarily a retail, rather than wholesale business - but although SWAW is also our competitor I had to write because they shouldn't be blamed for not honoring another company's sale price before the sale even started. Catching a sale is like buying stock when its price is low, just a matter of good luck.

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I love my Cattman Y-pipe! Thanks Brian

I do have one question....

Ever since the install of the Y-pipe my SES light (02 sensor) has turned on 3 different times. One of the techs at Nissan says it might be the rear 02 sensor that had to be relocated and it only happens at WOT. He also told me that rear 02 sensors on the VQ35 tend to fail after X amount of miles on them.

Anybody having this problem?
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Originally Posted by maximadave
I love my Cattman Y-pipe! Thanks Brian

I do have one question....

Ever since the install of the Y-pipe my SES light (02 sensor) has turned on 3 different times. One of the techs at Nissan says it might be the rear 02 sensor that had to be relocated and it only happens at WOT. He also told me that rear 02 sensors on the VQ35 tend to fail after X amount of miles on them.

Anybody having this problem?

The error code should indicate exactly which O2 sensor is involved. My first guess - particularly since this occurs at WOT - would be that the connections on the wiring extension might not have been made properly. Be sure that they are soldered, rather than using clip on 'quick connects', and that the extension wires are the same type as the O2 wiring.

Doing the O2 wiring extension isn't rocket science, but it has to be done right to properly conduct the signal from the sensor (we include an advisory about this with the part). Its possible, but seems less likely that your O2 sensor would fail in such a short time period.

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check out page 3 on my cardomain page. We tried to solder the wires but the wires seemed to be made out of some type of stainless steel.....

http://maxima.cardomain.com/memberpage/133107/3

he recommended me buying a new 02 sensor. It is the rear 02 by the way.
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check out page 3 on my cardomain page. We tried to solder the wires but the wires seemed to be made out of some type of stainless steel.....

http://maxima.cardomain.com/memberpage/133107/3

he recommended me buying a new 02 sensor. It is the rear 02 by the way.

Wow, nice bunch of pics and the polishing job is pretty cool too! Would you mind if I used some of them on our new website?

As far as soldering, wouldn't it be a matter of using the right kind of solder and flux for the wiring type? We've sold quite a number of these already and this is the first time the issue has come up.

I'll try to touch base with my favorite mechanic sometime this week to see if he has a specific recommendation.

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Wow, nice bunch of pics and the polishing job is pretty cool too! Would you mind if I used some of them on our new website?

As far as soldering, wouldn't it be a matter of using the right kind of solder and flux for the wiring type? We've sold quite a number of these already and this is the first time the issue has come up.

I'll try to touch base with my favorite mechanic sometime this week to see if he has a specific recommendation.

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No problem Brian Help yourself to any pics...

I will ask my buddy Jeff about the solder and flux for the wiring. I think that is probably the problem anyway.....

Thanks for your help Brian...........you rock

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Wow, nice bunch of pics and the polishing job is pretty cool too!

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I like the polished look better. Metal polish and alot of elbow grease.

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Originally Posted by maximadave
check out page 3 on my cardomain page. We tried to solder the wires but the wires seemed to be made out of some type of stainless steel.....

http://maxima.cardomain.com/memberpage/133107/3

he recommended me buying a new 02 sensor. It is the rear 02 by the way.
I was browsing thru this thread and saw your post about the wires not taking the solder. From what I can tell from the pics you were using plumbing solder which is not for soldering wires. Most solder for wires that I see is much smaller and has no problem getting on the wires. Radio Shack sells solder thats made for electronics and wiring work for a few bucks a roll.

And to make soldering easier, one of the tricks I do is to solder each stripped end of the two wires that you wish to connect. This is called "tinning" the wire. I also like to use extra flux to treat the two tinned wire ends so the finished solder joint bonds quickly and neatly.
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try some 60/40 rosin core solder.

BTW Brian, how many 97-99 B-pipes(midpipe) you have ready to go? price? If you are familiar with the stillen muffler, how does it compare with your muffler? right now I have a cattman Ypipe, stock bpipe and stillen muffler, I want to add your bpipe but always wondered how it would sound.
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how long will this deal last? is there a time limit? thanx guys
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is this still going on? id like a cattman y pipe
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Old 08-31-2004, 04:48 PM
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another GD on the y-pipe would be nice
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Old 09-03-2004, 09:56 PM
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Yeah me too
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Old 09-04-2004, 05:53 AM
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Y pipe GD

Yeah I'd like to get in on it too.
I also would like a Cattman cat-back
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