96BLUMAX

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Ive done a bunch of updating to list with the help of me ripping things out and weighing and from papasmurf. Just wanted to let everyone know of the update.

http://lighter.maxdes.net

Check it out.


Thanks,
Justin

95emeraldgxe

good read, add "buy a treadmill" to the list

njmaxseltd

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Ya beat me to that line....

96BLUMAX

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Thanks, yeah i might just have to add that. Driver weight does pay a big role. But my biggest thing holding me back is when i run my touring rims cause they are damn heavy.

krismax

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Thanks some of that i didnt do because i didnt think it was that much weight, I have a sunroof your saying that weighs 65 lbs .Do you know of anybody whose replaced it with plexiglass,how does it look with the curve of the roof? is it easy?can you get tinted ? thanks

luckee2bhere

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are you crazy??? you racing PRO or something...please dont worry about it. sunroofs are fun!

krismax

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You may find this hard to believe but i bought the maxima to RACE and i dont even have power steering !.I have a RSX i drive everyday.I didnt want some loud piece of **** muscle car,and i never use my sunroof.My max is my hobbie muscle car, When im done i want 12.5 1/4 NA. And for the car to look mostly stock. target weight 2499 lbs. Right now full interior,and street weight 2860 lbs on a digital scale. And i have not done many of those steps. I have a 96 se with C&C package.

luckee2bhere

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sounds good to me. i believe it can be done.

the thing is i cant believe that you didnt know how much heavier glass is than a reg. roof.

Dave B

I'm not buying that the moonroof weighs 65lbs. Safety glass is heavy, but it's not that heavy. The front windshield doesn't even come close to weighs 65lbs. The moonroof has a thin metal frame, tiny motor, and the glass roof. You'd be lucky if the whole unit weighed 25lbs. I lift 50-65lb coolers a lot and I can tell you that much weight isn't sitting in that little moonroof.

Also, those brake dust shields and underbody heat shields don't weigh remotely close to 12lbs and 25lbs, respectively. The dust shields might weigh .5 lbs each and the underbody heat shields might weigh 8-10lbs. I should know, I've taken them on and off a few times and they're not heavy. Both of these "plates" as you refer to them and mearly thin gauge metal.

As for batteries, consider getting a "Dynabatt". They weigh in at 12lbs or approximately 30lbs lighter than the stocker.


Dave

luckee2bhere

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ive always heard that a sunroof adds roughly 80 to 100lbs to a car.

Battery=30lbs lighter?!?!?!?! DAMN...WTF...i had no idea you could save that kind of weight with a battery...how much $$$$$$ are we talking?

96BLUMAX

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Well Dave, those two numbers are from other org members who have weighed them. Also the sunroof does weigh a lot. That was the difference between the weight of a car with one compared to the weight without. It is not just simple brackets and a motor that hold it on either. Personally i wish it did weigh less so my car would be closer to 3095 with everything in it but i doubt it is only 25lbs.

Dave B

I've helped repair a moonroof on a late model Camry which involved removing the glass and framing. The moonroof on the Camry is very close in size to the one on the Maxima and I can tell you that the glass was definately heavy for it's size, but it was no where close to 50lbs. It felt like a 25lb dumb bell because I could easily grasp it and lift it out with one hand. If it weighed 50+lbs, there's no way I could lift out with one hand. The motor for the Maxima moonroof is very tiny and if the unit really weighed 65lbs, there's no way that little motor could move something so heavy. The moonroof system is only composed of the glass/frame, motor, and tracks. That's it.

As for people weighing these parts, if this person is Papasmurf, I don't buy it. Those underbody heatshields weigh hardly anything (not close to 25lbs) and the same goes for the brake dust shields.

Nealoc187

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Nealoc187

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I've weighed them too, and they don't even register on a scale that reads in 1 lb increments. Anyone who told you they weigh what you have listed on your site is on crack. If you want your site to be accurate you ought to change them. All 4 dust sheilds COMBINED dont weigh more than 3 lbs, and ALL the heat shielding under the car COMBIND is less than 8lbs. I have none of the above on my car anymore, the dust sheilds because my brakes are too large and the heat shields because they were rattling like hell. I suggest you change those weights unless you don't care about accuracy.

96BLUMAX

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Well i would really like to know how much the "sun roof" really does weigh because i didnt list the weight savings because i really dont know. 65lbs was to be conservative and not to give too low of a weight for my car just in case it does really weigh around that because that was the weight rumor going around. Dave, maybe take yours out, weigh it, and then let us all really know. I will then add that to the list and attribute the finding to you. As for heat shielding, there is a lot of it. Def. if you count the cover for the cat. I mean think about it there is heat shielding from the ypipe all the way to covering the muffler.

96sleeper

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Dave is right, many of those weights look about right, but the brake dust shields do not total 12lbs, I have removed one to see and it was like 0.5 lbs. The heat shields for the exhaust do not weigh 22 lbs either, as I have removed a few and they are very light. I like the list though, gives some good ideas.

A dynabatt is rediculously expensive for the name, get a hawker which is the exact same battery for like $79 I believe.

Nealoc187

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As far as the sunroof thing goes the additional weight is not just from the sunroof itself. Extra bracing is required throughout the roof of the car because the optimal place for that bracing to reside is taken up by the sunroof, and also the track and motor mechanism.

I think if you are serious about that website you should list the differences in the different model years and trim levels. My 96 GXE wasn't even CLOSE to the 3095 you have listed on your website. With 1/4 tank and in stock form it was weighed at 2940 (without me).

96BLUMAX

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This is why i am posting. If you want it to be better, contribute. Tell me some things to change and i will. Give me weights for trim levels and ill add that too.

Dave B

Okay, here are some honest to God "dry" weights for the 1996 Maximas taken from Nissan:

GLE 2982lb (extra weight items include the moonroof, climate control, automatic, dual power seats, BOSE, heavier wheels)

GXE 2886lb (bare bones 5 speed)

SE 2895lb (bare bones 5 speed)

As we can see, the GLE is the heavy weight by ~90lbs. The moonroof, automatic, and dual power seats are the big weight items. The auto (without fluids) is about 25lbs heavier then the manual, the power seats add about 15lbs more (total of ~30lbs), the BOSE and climate control system add ~7-8lbs, the "tank" GLE rims add 3lb each or ~12lbs total, and then there's the moonroof which looks like it may weigh anywhere from 30-35lbs.

Now keep in mind that these are "dry" weights which means no fluids at all. A full tank of gas is about 126lbs, oil is about 7lbs, tranny fluid for the auto/manual is around 5-10lbs, coolant is around 15lbs (maybe more), and windshield fluid is around 10lbs. Add all this up and a barebones GXE 5 speed will weigh in around 3050lbs.
Run a 1/4 tank of gas (-100lbs) and remove the jack and spare (-32lbs) and you're looking at around 2920lbs. Compare this number to what Neal said his GXE weighed with a 1/4 tank of gas ...just about *****-on-accurate.

My 96 SE 5 speed (moonroof, BOSE, powerseat) with 20lbs of subframe connectors, 30lbs of tools and work related items, 1/2 tank of gas (70lbs), spare/jack, and y-pipe (-12lbs) weighed in at 3055lbs. I'd esimate my race weight without me is ~2950lbs (1/4 tank of gas, no spare/jack, no tools).


I must say it bugs me that a lot of people somehow believe they're particular model of Maxima (SE/GLE/GXE) is signifcantly lighter than other Maximas of the same model. The truth is all these options DO NOT add a ton of weight. At most you're looking at 90lbs between a fully optioned auto GLE vs a barebones 5 speed GXE. When you're talking about speed, 90lbs isn't going to slow you down a whole lot (maybe .1 or .2 seconds).


Dave

96BLUMAX

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That is really interesting because i always thought my GLE was around 3200lbs. Ill add these to the page later.

00MAXI

lose 29lbs with a carbon fiber hood wow thats a awesome weight loss compared to most cars that do the same mod. I wish the Dynabatt batterie had enough juice to power the stereo I want to get for my car

krismax

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How do coilovers save 34 lbs ?

96sleeper

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I am assuming it is the size of the springs, coilovers use small diameter springs, and the stock type springs are huge.

Dave B

Your GLE DOES weigh close 3200lbs when you've got all the fluids and gas in it.



Dave

KLoWnPR109

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backseat weighing 30 pounds?

96BLUMAX

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Yep exactly 30. 10 for the bottom and 20 for the top.

dwapenyi

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I have the 97 and 98 Nissan Maxima brochures. The number for both years are interestingly the same. I figured the digital odo in the 98 would have added 40 lbs

Here's the info:

Curb Weights
GXE 5-speed: 3,012 lbs
GXE auto: 3,069 lbs

SE 5-speed: 3,014 lbs
SE auto: 3,072 lbs

GLE: 3,085 lbs

DW

96BLUMAX

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k, thanks for the info.

Cutler

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Take off the doors, hood and trunk lid and your all good..............

96BLUMAX

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Yeah i know right. Like that car that car and driver did to make a real slow car run like 13s. I actually would like to make all of the above CF. Thats a little down the road though cause i am only spending money on the turbo kit now.

Nismo87SE

At best you might be able to get the car down to 2500lbs without having to start cutting up the chassic. I say just dump the entire drivetrain into a RWD 1st gen maxima. At least then you can go lighter and drifting at the sametime .

96BLUMAX

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Yeah RWD might be nice.