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Old 06-03-2009, 10:35 PM   #1
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Shell "Nitrogen Enriched Gas" ?

Just wondering what you guys think of Shells Nitrogen Enriched Gas? Has anyone seen an improvement in MPG?
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Same here, but I only use Shell 93 in my 5.5gen regardless.
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Yeah I think its all marketing, I mean there are times when I feel a harder pull and times when it seems like my car is performing noticeably worse. I think its all in my head, but as for MPG I use Shell and Safeway brand gas, and there is no change in MPG
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i always thought about how big of a difference it would make but never tired it..
on the other hand i just filled up shell 91 (like always).. $2.71 per gallon ftl..
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I haven't noticed a difference. I've always used Shell 91.
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i only use shell gas. best gas mileage seen outta my 4th gen max than other gas companies such as mobil, sunoco, exxon, bp, hess, etc. I've gotten 380 miles to my tank on the highway. driving in nyc is another story, rush hour traffic FTL.

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Shell is good gas.
Shell does a good job marketing their product as well.

I use Shell gas, therefore I am.
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i only use shell gas. best gas mileage seen outta my 4th gen max than other gas companies such as mobil, sunoco, exxon, bp, hess, etc. I've gotten 380 miles to my tank on the highway. driving in nyc is another story, rush hour traffic FTL.
your gas mileage sucks.
I get an easy 400 on a tank, with mixed driving.
edit: I also typically go to shell. partly because its 100% gas (no e), but mostly because it's the closest to my house.
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Same here, but I only use Shell 93 in my 5.5gen regardless.
but no change in mpgs or performance over their previous blend
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I've always used shell 91, didn't really feel a difference with the new "nitrogen formula."
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I've always used shell 91, didn't really feel a difference with the new "nitrogen formula."
I don't think you'll feel a difference I mean you would have to have a lot of gunk in your intake and injectors in order to really feel the difference and I wonder how many tanks you would need to go through before you see any benefit?

I use Shell and have for every single tank since brand new on my 09 Max but I think the nitrogen is more marketing but it would be cool if after 350,000 miles after a tear down I saw some clean valves!
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I don't think you'll feel a difference I mean you would have to have a lot of gunk in your intake and injectors in order to really feel the difference and I wonder how many tanks you would need to go through before you see any benefit?

I use Shell and have for every single tank since brand new on my 09 Max but I think the nitrogen is more marketing but it would be cool if after 350,000 miles after a tear down I saw some clean valves!
Haha it would! But I guess it depends on how much nitrogen is in nitrogen "enriched" gas... if its like one part per million... then.....................................
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Just wondering what you guys think of Shells Nitrogen Enriched Gas? Has anyone seen an improvement in MPG?
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Shell's engine-cleaning gas isn't technically anything new, either, since all gasoline products have been required by the EPA to include a minimum amount of additives and detergents [source: U.S. Environmental Protection Agency]. However, Shell's gasoline does meet and exceed TOP TIER Gasoline Detergent standards, which is a voluntary standard that several major automakers including Audi, BMW, General Motors, Honda, Toyota and Volkswagen created in order to improve the quality of gasoline.

But the most revealing reason behind Shell's efforts to push nitrogen-enriched gas might be its decision to suspend research on alternative fuels. In March 2009, Shell announced it would hold back indefinitely on funding and research for solar and wind power. Hydrogen power was given the boot, too. Analysts cited recent drops in oil prices and an economic downturn as possible reasons for the move [source: Hadhazy]
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A further example of its versatility is its use as a preferred alternative to carbon dioxide to pressurize kegs of some beers, particularly stouts and British ales, due to the smaller bubbles it produces, which make the dispensed beer smoother and headier. A modern application of a pressure sensitive nitrogen capsule known commonly as a "widget" now allows nitrogen charged beers to be packaged in cans and bottles.[16]
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i had a p0400 EGR code. i filled up with shell 93 yesterday. the next time i started the car, the SES light was gone
my previous tank was wawa 92
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I guess these analysts think Shell is as short-sighted as the consumer is with regard to gas prices.

I filled up at $2.84 today for Shell super. So much for cheap oil...up 80 cents in the last month.
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I used BP/Amoco ultimate before and switched to Shell V-power about a year ago and I notice that the car seems a bit more responsive and runs smoother.......but maybe its just me.....you know kinda like the car seems to run better when you wash and detail it.....
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your gas mileage sucks.
I get an easy 400 on a tank, with mixed driving.
edit: I also typically go to shell. partly because its 100% gas (no e), but mostly because it's the closest to my house.
Well, your easy 400 on tank is on a 1991 Maxima compared to my 1999 Maxima. I think my gas mileage right now is near or on the mark of the advertised highway gas mileage of the 4th gen Maximas. My calculated gas mileage is on the lines of 25.8 mpg highway. The 380 miles that I stated was with my tank at almost a 1/4 tank left, according to my gas gauge...since i never let my tank go below the 1/4 tank mark.
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but no change in mpgs or performance over their previous blend

WHoa hold up just for some clarity anyone with a 5th gen maxima your telling me you put 93 in your MAXIMA does it not just say UNLEADED ONLY
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WHoa hold up just for some clarity anyone with a 5th gen maxima your telling me you put 93 in your MAXIMA does it not just say UNLEADED ONLY


93 is unleaded....all gas is pretty much unleaded by law these days...
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Just wondering what you guys think of Shells Nitrogen Enriched Gas? Has anyone seen an improvement in MPG?

I partly believe it is a marketing ploy due to the fact that no immediate gains will ever be felt. Only time will tell how well the gas works and you would have to habitually use it.
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WHoa hold up just for some clarity anyone with a 5th gen maxima your telling me you put 93 in your MAXIMA does it not just say UNLEADED ONLY
A little history lesson...

Since the early 1970s, the US (EPA) has led the ban on the use of lead because of its adverse health effects. It wasn't until 1996 when the Clean Air Act was enforced that leaded gasoline was fully banned in the US. Lead also interferes with the catalytic converter and its lower emissions, thus the phasing out lead.

P.S. The "UNLEADED GASOLINE" sign at gas station applies to all octane ratings of the gasoline sold. =)
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WHoa hold up just for some clarity anyone with a 5th gen maxima your telling me you put 93 in your MAXIMA does it not just say UNLEADED ONLY
Bahahahaha please put down the car keys and step away from the pump. Seeing as how you can handle neither just sit over there.
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Bahahahaha please put down the car keys and step away from the pump. Seeing as how you can handle neither just sit over there.
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to his defense tho..... he probably meant "all it says is 'unleaded', which implies any grade of unleaded will be fine; it does't say i HAVE to put 93 in"
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Well, your easy 400 on tank is on a 1991 Maxima compared to my 1999 Maxima. I think my gas mileage right now is near or on the mark of the advertised highway gas mileage of the 4th gen Maximas. My calculated gas mileage is on the lines of 25.8 mpg highway. The 380 miles that I stated was with my tank at almost a 1/4 tank left, according to my gas gauge...since i never let my tank go below the 1/4 tank mark.
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then that isn't "a tank," is it? its a 3/4 tank. if that is the case, I concede your point.

but what does model have to do with it? if anything, mine should have more ****ty mpg, due to being way older than yours, and having more miles.
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then that isn't "a tank," is it? its a 3/4 tank. if that is the case, I concede your point.

but what does model have to do with it? if anything, mine should have more ****ty mpg, due to being way older than yours, and having more miles.
Here's an idea!

Model type has a lot to do with gas mileage. Different sized cars, different car weights, different engine types (your SOHC to my DOHC), different sized gas tanks ALL contribute to your gas mileage, so yes model does make a difference. It also depends on how you drive, i.e. if you go WOT all the time, your gas mileage will be sh*tty. Trying to make the point that "you gas mileage sucks" when it clearly does not is not conducive to this forum now is it? Now if you had a 4th gen max like I do, and tell me you have better gas mileage than I do, then I would be asking YOU what are you doing different from me so that I can better my gas mileage. I calculate my gas mileage everytime I fill up and try to adjust my driving in order to get the best mpg, albeit being stuck in traffic can't be helped at times.
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I get an easy 400 on a tank, with mixed driving.
edit: I also typically go to shell. partly because its 100% gas (no e), but mostly because it's the closest to my house.
doesn't matter what station you go to around here, all are up to 10% E....
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I guess these analysts think Shell is as short-sighted as the consumer is with regard to gas prices.

I filled up at $2.84 today for Shell super. So much for cheap oil...up 80 cents in the last month.
Yeah, we're up to $2.80 for 87 by my house, $2.90+ further out, and probably $3.20+ in Chicago.
Last year when the barrel was $150+ gas was $4.40. Now the barrel is $50 or $60 and gas is above $3. Funny how it doesn't make sense...
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I get about 360 to 380 miles on a tank REGARDLESS of where I fill up. I stop at whichever gas station happens to be the easiest to stop in, which means that in any given month I will hit as many as 6 different stations for a fill up. It'd actually be higher were it not for about 80lbs worth of sound deadening/dampening.

Bottom line: Marketing ploy, plan and simple. Just because the tanker says 'Shell' when it heads to the station doesn't mean it wasn't filled up at the Valero refinery.
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The stuff is similar to Techron and quite impressed. I used to get an occasional P0430 (though when I got my emissions test done, the CATs were super efficient, realized it is the stupid CA emissions that is too strict that it trips the ECM to thro the code) and it is completely gone.

It does work.
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The stuff is similar to Techron and quite impressed. I used to get an occasional P0430 (though when I got my emissions test done, the CATs were super efficient, realized it is the stupid CA emissions that is too strict that it trips the ECM to thro the code) and it is completely gone.

It does work.
Except for the fact that 99.9999% of P0430 codes are thrown from people failing to properly seat their gastank cap.
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there is so much oil going through PCV on vqs that enritched gas would probably get overwhelmed even if it worked
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i tired it and havent notice any difference, kinda sux i have to use 93 octane now that the gas going up
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I guess these analysts think Shell is as short-sighted as the consumer is with regard to gas prices.

I filled up at $2.84 today for Shell super. So much for cheap oil...up 80 cents in the last month.
Ours is about $2.85 Premium.. and we literally have an Exxon plant IN OUR TOWN.. I take a right from my neighborhood, and its the plant.
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I get about 360 to 380 miles on a tank REGARDLESS of where I fill up. I stop at whichever gas station happens to be the easiest to stop in, which means that in any given month I will hit as many as 6 different stations for a fill up. It'd actually be higher were it not for about 80lbs worth of sound deadening/dampening.

Bottom line: Marketing ploy, plan and simple. Just because the tanker says 'Shell' when it heads to the station doesn't mean it wasn't filled up at the Valero refinery.
i must have a very heavy foot.. cuz I'm only getting about < 300mi to a tank... city driving... not much highway
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i must have a very heavy foot.. cuz I'm only getting about < 300mi to a tank... city driving... not much highway
I'm going to say because you have an 00-01 auto.
I have an 03 6spd which runs 25.7-25.9 Mpg. I get over 380 mpt.

I actually just filled up at the shell that's near my house and the guy was telling me it was the most expensive gas around @$3.01 for 93. All other stations are around $2.82 and up for premium. I currently don't noticed a difference and people are saying over time you MAY see a difference.
Most gas now has %10 or less enthanol around here, I believe that's what the little stickers say on the pump.
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I'm going to say because you have an 00-01 auto.
I have an 03 6spd which runs 25.7-25.9 Mpg. I get over 380 mpt.

I actually just filled up at the shell that's near my house and the guy was telling me it was the most expensive gas around @$3.01 for 93. All other stations are around $2.82 and up for premium. I currently don't noticed a difference and people are saying over time you MAY see a difference.
Most gas now has %10 or less enthanol around here, I believe that's what the little stickers say on the pump.
does auto really matter THAT much? lolz
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