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Old 03-03-2008, 04:20 PM   #1
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Gas Treatments with 93 Octane

Is it ok to put gas treatments in with 93 octane ive been using Shell V-Power Gas and from my understand shell makes a Gas Treatment called V-Power would it be ok to put Gas Treatments in 93 or should i leave it alone.
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Old 03-06-2008, 12:12 AM   #2
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It is OK to add this treatment to any grade of gasoline. But many premium grades (and Shell is likely one of them) have a higher treatment rate for fuel injector cleaner blended into the gasoline than you get with the regular grades.

I only burn regular grade gaso in my Max, so I do a fuel injector cleaner application about 500 miles before I do an oil change. I change my oil every 9 to 10 K miles (now that the power-train warranty has expired -- past 60 K miles). This should be frequent enough for these treatments. I also prefer Chevron's Techron cleaner, but have no experience with Shell's cleaner.
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Old 03-12-2008, 08:46 AM   #3
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why do you want a "gas treatment?" what are hoping for it to do? the extra agents in Premium should do enough cleaning.

I'd rather put my money towards Premium than buying and guessing how much of what kind of product to add.
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I am not guessing. The bottle of Techron tells you how much to add to a certain volume of gasoline. For Maxima owners, you should buy the bottle for 20 gallons and then fill the tank after adding the bottle to your tank.

Why do I do this? Because many brands and grades of gasoline don't put enough cleaner in their gasoline to keep your engine's fuel system clean. The guessing would be which grades do put in enough. While I suspect Shell (and some other major brands) put enough in their premium, there is no difinitive answer. So to be more difinitive, I do a system clean-up myself, rather than trust to chance. I do this at a difinitive mileage interval -- about every 10 K miles. No guessing for me on this.

Another reason is that I don't use premium gasoline -- not needed based on my driving style. I would rather save money and do a known system clean-up, rather than trust to chance that the premium gasoline I might buy has a good treatment rate blended into the gasoline
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I believe the owners manual says do not use gas additives such as fuel injection cleaners. They can damage the fuel injection system.
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scheduled maintenance

I have 06 Maxima with 28k which I'm thinking about getting 30k service soon.
I have no idea about which service to get without getting raped at dealer.
what's the difference between basic 30k service and premium 30k service?
when do I need to service brake? what should be the avg. miles before you need brake serviced? I did get 7k($99) 15k(149$) but I'm not sure if it is necessary.
If someone can let me know what services are necessary and when I should get the car service, I would greatly appreciate it! I do believe doing all the required maintenance to keep your car in good shape but don't want to over spend on unnecessary services dealers try to sell you. Thanks again
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I have 06 Maxima with 28k which I'm thinking about getting 30k service soon.
I have no idea about which service to get without getting raped at dealer.
what's the difference between basic 30k service and premium 30k service?
when do I need to service brake? what should be the avg. miles before you need brake serviced? I did get 7k($99) 15k(149$) but I'm not sure if it is necessary.
If someone can let me know what services are necessary and when I should get the car service, I would greatly appreciate it! I do believe doing all the required maintenance to keep your car in good shape but don't want to over spend on unnecessary services dealers try to sell you. Thanks again
Cars obviously need to be serviced if owners intend to keep them in top working order. Other than a basic oil change, many dealers include tire balance/rotation, and a multitude of "checks" or "inspections" such as the fluid levels, charging system, brakes, belts, hoses, etc in their service packages. Just guessing, but the premium service may include some sort of fuel injection cleaning and/or combustion chamber decarbonizer...if you use good fuel, these services are probably not needed with your low mileage. Your dealer will be able to explain the difference in service packages.

Whether you perform the routine maintenance or have the dealer do it is up to you...but dealerships naturally charge for these services. You'll definitely save money performing routine service yourself, but if you have the dealer perform the service they can never refuse warranty coverage based on your failure to properly maintain the vehicle.

Concerning the brakes, longevity is determined by a number of factors including they type driving you do and your braking habits. If you do a lot of stop and go driving, the life expectancy of the brakes will be much less than if the vehicle were operated primarily on the hwy. So it all depends on your usage...a good practice is to inspect the brake pads whenever you have the wheels off for a tire rotation.
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. . . Concerning the brakes, longevity is determined by a number of factors including they type driving you do and your braking habits. If you do a lot of stop and go driving, the life expectancy of the brakes will be much less than if the vehicle were operated primarily on the hwy. So it all depends on your usage...a good practice is to inspect the brake pads whenever you have the wheels off for a tire rotation.
Good advice on all points. Brakes longevity really does depend on driving style. I use my 6-speed manual trannie for downhill braking (lots of that in Colorado). I also plan ahead for stopping by coasting into a stop light rather than maintaining speed up to the stop and then brake hard to stop. The more you use your brakes the quicker they will wear out.

I do my own oil changes and have found that it is much easier to change the oil filter if I remove the right front wheel. This is an ideal time to inspect the brake pad on that wheel.
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