mobile 1 m1-105

[sergey85]

i got a 02 5.5 max gle i changed my oil the other day and i was trying to buy my filter but was told the m1-105 was discontinued is that true cause i called around to other auto stores and they said the same thing. i just used the m1-108 hight performnce filter

[ghostrider17]

The -105 was a big fat mutha....but it fit the 3.5. Don't know if it's been discontinued, but I use the -110.
It fits perfectly.
i found that the -105 was a bit tricky to fit behind the splash guard on the engine compartment.
Don't know about the -108?? Does that fit??

[steven88]

Originally Posted by ghostrider17

The -105 was a big fat mutha....but it fit the 3.5. Don't know if it's been discontinued, but I use the -110.
It fits perfectly.
i found that the -105 was a bit tricky to fit behind the splash guard on the engine compartment.
Don't know about the -108?? Does that fit??

m-108 is actually smaller than both 110 and 105

[ghostrider17]

I was in a local parts store yesterday that stocks M1 filters, and did NOT see any -105's.
...and btw - I don't think I'd opt for a smaller filter in the -108.

The -110 is HALF the size of the -105, and I'd prefer more filtering element where I can get it....i'll stick with the -110.

gr

[SilverMax_04]

I bought four 105 filters about a year ago, so have not needed to buy one recently. When I bought them, I had to order them because they were not normally stocked. I would be surprised if Mobil has dropped it, but don't know what the truth is.

I suggest you call the Mobil 1 "Oil Filter Hotline at 1-800-882-0890 for assistance. Hours are Monday to Friday, 7 am to 7 pm (Central Standard Time), and on Saturdays from 7 am to 5 pm (CST)."

They should be able to answer this question. Please post the answer when you get it.

[jasonmax]

I saw some at the autozone nearby. but since I change the filter and oil every 3000mi/3month, there is no need to buy such a big one.

[talkinghorse]

The M1-110 and the M1-108 are very similar, but the 110 is nearly an inch longer than the M1-108 is. The M1-105 is roughly an inch larger in diameter than the M1-108/M1-110 is.

The M1-105 and the M1-108/M1-110 differ not only in size, but more importantly in the calibration of the by-pass valve. The by-pass valve on the 105 is calibrated to open at a higher psid than than it does on the 108/110 and this higher setting could potentially restrict oil flow on cold starts or in high-demand conditions.

Stick with the filter that's designed for your car. A larger filter will in theory provide greater capacity, but the additional surface area provided by the larger filter shouldn't be a factor when changed at regular intervals.

[ghostrider17]

Originally Posted by talkinghorse

The M1-110 and the M1-108 are very similar, but the 110 is nearly an inch longer than the M1-108 is. The M1-105 is roughly an inch larger in diameter than the M1-108/M1-110 is.

The M1-105 and the M1-108/M1-110 differ not only in size, but more importantly in the calibration of the by-pass valve. The by-pass valve on the 105 is calibrated to open at a higher psid than than it does on the 108/110 and this higher setting could potentially restrict oil flow on cold starts or in high-demand conditions.

Stick with the filter that's designed for your car. A larger filter will in theory provide greater capacity, but the additional surface area provided by the larger filter shouldn't be a factor when changed at regular intervals.

Good post....thanks.
gr

[adrenaline_rush_fanatic]

just bought the m1-110 and 5 quarts of Royal Purple 15w-40

swapping over from conventional

[stocked out max]

Originally Posted by adrenaline_rush_fanatic

just bought the m1-110 and 5 quarts of Royal Purple 15w-40

swapping over from conventional

isnt' that oil for a diesel engine???

[adrenaline_rush_fanatic]

Originally Posted by stocked out max

isnt' that oil for a diesel engine???

No sir. Not specifically. Besides visocity, engine oil doesn't differ for application.

Royal Purple manufactures high performance lubricants for most automotive, industrial, marine, motorcycle and racing applications.
When compared to leading synthetic and conventional motor oils, Royal Purple motor oil typically:

• Increases horsepower and torque by as much as 3%
• Reduces engine wear by as much as 80%
• Improves fuel economy by as much as 5%
• Reduces engine heat by as much as 10%
• Reduces emissions by up to 20% or more

[SilverMax_04]

Originally Posted by adrenaline_rush_fanatic

. . . engine oil doesn't differ for application.

Wrong. There are specific motor oils made for specific applications. Two that come to mind: diesel engines & 2-cycle engines. Not to say that this oil could not be used for other applications. But when an oil is specifically made for a particular application, it is not advisable to use it for a different application.

Now if you are only talking about Royal Purple motor oil, you could be right. But a 15W40 weight motor oil is normally designed for a diesel engine application.

[wyche89]

i just changed my oil with the m1-108 today, and it fit fine.. its kinda small though, and might be hard to take off.. i think i might go back with the 110 next time

[talkinghorse]

Originally Posted by wyche89

i just changed my oil with the m1-108 today, and it fit fine.. its kinda small though, and might be hard to take off.. i think i might go back with the 110 next time

The 110 is the correct filter for your vehicle. The 108 has the same pressure relief calibration as the 110 does; but it's designed for vehicles, including some Nissan models, where the added length of the 110 creates an issue.

The 108 will work fine...it's just small

[wyche89]

Originally Posted by talkinghorse

The 110 is the correct filter for your vehicle. The 108 has the same pressure relief calibration as the 110 does; but it's designed for vehicles, including some Nissan models, where the added length of the 110 creates an issue.

The 108 will work fine...it's just small

yeah, they both fit.. the only reason i got the the 108 was because thats what it said in the book at auto zone.. i noticed a little crunching sound as i was screwing it on today (by hand).. i hope i didn't crush the gasket...

[wyche89]

Originally Posted by adrenaline_rush_fanatic

just bought the m1-110 and 5 quarts of Royal Purple 15w-40

swapping over from conventional

what kind of car do you have? if it's a 3.5 liter, did that weight of royal purple lessen the effect of any oil burning that might have been there?

i got mobil1 synthetic 10w30 high mileage in hopes it would lessen it for me

[adrenaline_rush_fanatic]

I have an 02 6spd. No oil burnage before or after.
Running like a beaut

and oil is designed specifically for motors... based on visocity.
15w40 for a diesel is no different than running 15w40 in a gasoline motor...btw...


10w30 is the standard for gas whereas 15w40 is for diesel, but you can interchange based on preference/application....

I didn't mean oil is the same across the boards.
I'm only meaning diesel vs gasoline... it's the same.

[talkinghorse]

Originally Posted by adrenaline_rush_fanatic

I have an 02 6spd. No oil burnage before or after.
Running like a beaut

and oil is designed specifically for motors... based on visocity.
15w40 for a diesel is no different than running 15w40 in a gasoline motor...btw...


10w30 is the standard for gas whereas 15w40 is for diesel, but you can interchange based on preference/application....

I didn't mean oil is the same across the boards.
I'm only meaning diesel vs gasoline... it's the same.

You are OK in using this oil. But Silver Max 04 is also correct.

It's the formulation/service classification of the oil that is really the determining factor of whether or not an oil can be used in a gas or diesel engine. While 15w-40 is typically a "diesel oil", the RP you are using is formulated to meet the requirements of both gas and diesel engines. With that said, it may not be the best choice for the maxima engine because of the aggressive additive package needed to neutralize contaminants generated by diesels. Basically it's a diesel oil first, and a gas oil second.

If a 40-weight oil works for you, there are other choices that are biased toward gas engines and would be a better alternative for year-round use...I don't think a 15w-XX is a good choice for folks up north.

[SilverMax_04]

Right on Talkinghorse -- and stated better than I did in my last post. This is not a good choice for the VQ engine given that there are much better motor oil choices available.

[adrenaline_rush_fanatic]

you're right. and it's not something I'm going to continue running.
O'reilly's didn't have any other higher grade synthetic so I thought I'd try the RP HP Challenge...

Had to special order Mobil SS oil.....



But you ARE right SilverMax... sorry if I misinterpreted and conflicted your opinion.
Typically RP is for diesel. But not always

[STARR]

in reference to oil weight I thought I read that the VQ actually does better with a heavier weight oil, of course the gas mileage may take a hit

[SilverMax_04]

Nissan USA recommends 5W30 weight while Nissan Europe recommends 10W30 weight. The difference is that the US federal govt. has a stardard for energy efficient motor oil that says 5W30 is more efficient than 10W30.

I believe that without government meddling, Nissan would be recommending 10W30. I use 10W30 in the summer and 5W30 in the winter (until I use up all of my 5W30 oil I have on hand). I will then go to 10W30.

I would not recommend any heavier oil unless you live in the desert.

[STARR]

I used both 10w30 and 5w30 in a 2000 Altima with the 4cylinder and during the winter with both oil weights the slight valve tapping did not go away, both where regular oil.

[jasonmax]

so which one should be 5.5th using? 108 or 110?

[talkinghorse]

Originally Posted by jasonmax

so which one should be 5.5th using? 108 or 110?

110