Alright well as some of you may know I cant get my vafc2 to work so I went to a dyno day completely untuned. I figured it was worth a shot to get a sort-of baseline on my 3.5 swap. The dyno was a brand new Mustang dyno and the guys were kind of rushing through the cars not hooking up any tuning equipment or anything so its basically just numbers. I told the guy my redline was 6500~ but for some reason my graph cuts off at 6188...not sure why it does that.
I didnt get any runfiles but hopefully I can get them to send me them assuming they are actually saved.
223 hp/209 tq were my best results of 3 consistent pulls in 3rd gear. I dont plan on really taking my car back to a dyno any time soon but I'd love to see it up around 250 after some tuning and maybe other minor modifications. A nearly stock,catback only, 04 350z was there and put down like 260 AT redline. http://videos.streetfire.net/video/M...for_165038.htm
Last edited by chillin014; 06-07-2008 at 06:42 PM.
b0000000000000000 mustang dyno! cant do comparisons to other cars here cus we all use dynojet. So 223/209..... my friend! for a Mustang dyno that we all know tend to read on the low side of things, you're not doing too bad at all considering your un-tuned situation!
Figure out the issue with the damn AFC, tune that sucka, and hit up a DYNOJET. Also, wtf @ dyno'ing in 3rd gear? Dyno gear is 4th gear, thats the closest to 1:1 gear ratio, Thats why your TQ seems on the low side (dyno'd on a shorter gear).
thanks guys! I definitely need to figure out the vafc problem...big time. Thats my current project (if you want to call it that).
What kind of gains are people seeing from more aggressive cams on these motors? I might put that on my to-do list in the future.
thanks guys! I definitely need to figure out the vafc problem...big time. Thats my current project (if you want to call it that).
What kind of gains are people seeing from more aggressive cams on these motors? I might put that on my to-do list in the future.
define "aggressive" . Im actually CONTEMPLATING the idea of opening my motor back up and sticking HR/ Rev-up cams in there, just to get the extra 1 mm of lift and slightly longer duration. Also while in there, stick new intake timing adapters with more top-end friendly retarding of the intake cams.... This combined with the boost.... oh boi :-X
You go all outz!
I honestly havent even looked at the cam options but maybe I should have asked it like- "How much more horsepower are people generally pulling out with aftermarket cams?( or like you said the rev up cams)
whats wrong with your intake timing adapters?
You go all outz!
I honestly havent even looked at the cam options but maybe I should have asked it like- "How much more horsepower are people generally pulling out with aftermarket cams?( or like you said the rev up cams)
whats wrong with your intake timing adapters?
Depends meng, depending on the cam they're gonna start shinning from the midrange up, add alot of area under the curve. Peak # gains can be anywhere from 15-20whp on AVERAGE. Of course if you match it with lighter valvetrain and stuff the gains are more. But of course the gains depend on the cams. The revup cams are still relatively mild IMO, with the extreme being with the ubber Tomei 28x, but for those you HAVE to upgrade the valvetrain.
Nothing "wrong" per say about the timing of my cam adapters. Its just that the standard timing that stephenmax uses, although it is a slightl improvement over 3.0 cam timing as far as benefiting top end goes, its still not all that good. If it was set for have the int cams at full retard (relative to that position on the VCTC'd 3.5s) my top end would be MUCH improved. That combined with cams would just be ubber.... and with boost...
Your too smart for me 95blkmax, I'm going to have to do some more research haha. 15-20 whp sounds worthwhile considering my goals as long as I'm not sacrificing any practicality (gas mileage, driveability, etc).
PlanoSER- Sorry about that I meant to put them in the OP. I'll only list what would effect horsepower. I have a 3.5 swap with the 3.0 timing set up. SSIM to the intake manifold. Cheapie headers, y-pipe, test pipe, and an SP2 catback that hangs low/rattles all over the place and pisses me off. Also a cold air intake that needs a new filter. So basically just bolt-ons on top of my swap.
Your too smart for me 95blkmax, I'm going to have to do some more research haha. 15-20 whp sounds worthwhile considering my goals as long as I'm not sacrificing any practicality (gas mileage, driveability, etc).
PlanoSER- Sorry about that I meant to put them in the OP. I'll only list what would effect horsepower. I have a 3.5 swap with the 3.0 timing set up. SSIM to the intake manifold. Cheapie headers, y-pipe, test pipe, and an SP2 catback that hangs low/rattles all over the place and pisses me off. Also a cold air intake that needs a new filter. So basically just bolt-ons on top of my swap.
man Im no smarter than you, I've just been reading around the all motor for longer than you probably. Plus working around nismology's backyard for a few yrs with 3-5 VQs on the floor, 1 on the engine stand, 3 transmissions, 2 parts cars and a brigade of black/white and gray cats guarding the perimeter (lmao!)... you learn alot from hands-on experience.
Reading is one thing, applying what you read is the real lesson (Confusious say )
b for a Mustang dyno that we all know tend to read on the low side of things, you're not doing too bad at all considering your un-tuned situation!
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Mustang Dyno's are hard to compare to. It all depends on the vehicle parameters that were entered in at the time of the dyno. And being that the A32 body isn't widely known for hardcore tuning, it is difficult to say what parameters the operator entered.
I've seen a car put down 260 on a Mustang and 230 on a Dynojet, all because the parameters were off.
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Yeah I think that mustang dyno was about on par with a dynojet after seeing some other results. One guy I talked to had dynoed his ms3 like a month earlier on a dynojet and made practically identical numbers.
ahh so you finally hit the dyno! Looking good. I want to see the numbers when you get some more tuning done!!
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thanks
I did some tuning but it could use some more tweaking. I thought I would have to make more drastic corrections than I did in order to lean it out. Now that I see how easy the A/F tuning is I wish I had more to tinker with like an EU. :/
. Im actually CONTEMPLATING the idea of opening my motor back up and sticking HR/ Rev-up cams in there, just to get the extra 1 mm of lift and slightly longer duration. Also while in there, stick new intake timing adapters with more top-end friendly retarding of the intake cams.... This combined with the boost.... oh boi :-X
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