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I can tell that the shelf has not been removed....BUT... a lot up top can be gained by the removal of the power valve .... but jeez gut that ***** and make more power.
__________________ 03 SE 4AT 242whp/238wtq
95 SE 4AT 235k Miles
I can tell that the shelf has not been removed....BUT... a lot up top can be gained by the removal of the power valve .... but jeez gut that ***** and make more power.
We'll see...
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Originally Posted by 2damax
This jerk is right so often I just search threads hoping he gets something wrong so I can catch him
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Originally Posted by kizzmyazz
ok so what i found out is that because of the FMU, i dont need to get injectors because it will neutralize the oil pressure to prevent detotnation
Nice numbers Merlyn and good seeing you today the ride is looking good as well!
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Mods07 Max CVT F5CAI,SP2Exhaust.1/4Mile NA13.91@98MPH.
Mods04 Max Stock Timing,5 Spd Auto,SP2Catback,F5CAI,Stock Manifold w/BO Plate,CattmanYPipe,Stock tires, NGK one step colder plugs.1/4Mile NA 13.97@102.81MPH.1/4Mile with a 75shot 12.80@110MPH.
12 Second 1/4 Mile Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kKGBjoJLskhttp://www.cardomain.com/ride/2550587
Same to you, hope you got my PM with the link to the video
EDIT: Just found out I messed up on the video, thanks to pmohr telling me, sorry about that, must have been really tired
Yes I did It's okay only a difference of 100 ft.lbs of torque I will edit it no problem.
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Mods07 Max CVT F5CAI,SP2Exhaust.1/4Mile NA13.91@98MPH.
Mods04 Max Stock Timing,5 Spd Auto,SP2Catback,F5CAI,Stock Manifold w/BO Plate,CattmanYPipe,Stock tires, NGK one step colder plugs.1/4Mile NA 13.97@102.81MPH.1/4Mile with a 75shot 12.80@110MPH.
12 Second 1/4 Mile Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kKGBjoJLskhttp://www.cardomain.com/ride/2550587
Thanks it was good seeing you as well. You've got to dyno time.
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Mods07 Max CVT F5CAI,SP2Exhaust.1/4Mile NA13.91@98MPH.
Mods04 Max Stock Timing,5 Spd Auto,SP2Catback,F5CAI,Stock Manifold w/BO Plate,CattmanYPipe,Stock tires, NGK one step colder plugs.1/4Mile NA 13.97@102.81MPH.1/4Mile with a 75shot 12.80@110MPH.
12 Second 1/4 Mile Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kKGBjoJLskhttp://www.cardomain.com/ride/2550587
Nice numbers...not doubting just simply saying that those numbers seem awfully high without tuning or any more mods.....
Yea, a month or two before the dyno we had autotune from the emanage setup, and it was running perfect A/F but for whatever reason the cable that we made (No Emanage Option cables were available at the time for Widebands) stopped working and kept spiking A/F every 30 seconds or so, so we had to go in there untuned, with my turbo setup on the way, there is no way I am spending $300~ on an NA tune.
We tried to get autotune working the night before the dyno and with that a lot of stuttering at idle and bad A/F (The car was sitting at 14.5 then would spike to 18.5 A/F at times) we decided to turn EVERYTHING off on emanage. I am sorta glad we got to run the car without a tune, because we were able to see the effects of the 3" Cattman exhaust.
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1997 Volkswagen Jetta TDI
TDI = Turbocharged Direct Injection NOT Turbocharged Diesel Injection.
Holy cow!!!! I didn't think people were laying that good of numbers w/o a tune...I'll be happy to get 245whp after I put on my Cattman Headers and SSIM with my other mods and get the car tuned!!!
Thanks it was good seeing you as well. You've got to dyno time.
For my POS? I think the dyno has limits on how low it can read It's basically stock right now, just a custom 2.5" catback, gutted cat (accidental) and hacked stock airbox (sound, of course). Probably has less power than stock, heh.
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Originally Posted by pimpin02max
Holy cow!!!! I didn't think people were laying that good of numbers w/o a tune...I'll be happy to get 245whp after I put on my Cattman Headers and SSIM with my other mods and get the car tuned!!!
Yea, it was a nice surprise to us both...hitting close to (actually above, with the uncorrected numbers) the stock flywheel rating for his car at the wheels with nothing but I/H/E and flywheel. Eh, '04 trans counts too, I guess.
Still, we left the shop very happy with the numbers...
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Elon laid down 247 w/o a tune and stock catback so the #'s aren't terribly out of reach.
Never heard of that member, and can't find them in the list...link? Just wondering what he had.
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Originally Posted by 2damax
This jerk is right so often I just search threads hoping he gets something wrong so I can catch him
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Originally Posted by kizzmyazz
ok so what i found out is that because of the FMU, i dont need to get injectors because it will neutralize the oil pressure to prevent detotnation
Thanks for posting these results. Your performance mods seems to be working, the #s are exactly what I'd expect to see from a VQ35DE with this equipment. My 02 runs about 243whp w/ similar equipment. I've got a stock flywheel, so I lose a little there, and a gen3 header set, which does a bit better than a gen2 set. I've got a 2.5" exhaust, so your 3" catback could have made the difference.
The 3" gen5 Cattman catback is already developed, but there's never been enough interest to take it into manufacturing. I sort of assumed it would only make power on a turbo/sc application, but Merlyn's results seem to contradict that.
Anybody interested? We could have a batch ready in a month, but we'd need to see some expression of interest.
Brian C Catts
Cattman Performance
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Thanks for posting these results. Your performance mods seems to be working, the #s are exactly what I'd expect to see from a VQ35DE with this equipment. My 02 runs about 243whp w/ similar equipment. I've got a stock flywheel, so I lose a little there, and a gen3 header set, which does a bit better than a gen2 set. I've got a 2.5" exhaust, so your 3" catback could have made the difference.
The 3" gen5 Cattman catback is already developed, but there's never been enough interest to take it into manufacturing. I sort of assumed it would only make power on a turbo/sc application, but Merlyn's results seem to contradict that.
Anybody interested? We could have a batch ready in a month, but we'd need to see some expression of interest.
Brian C Catts
Cattman Performance
IMO Exhaust sells, I get Gen 3 headers
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1997 Volkswagen Jetta TDI
TDI = Turbocharged Direct Injection NOT Turbocharged Diesel Injection.
Hmm, not a bad idea, but considering all the noise reduction I've done (boat load of resonators) it might be worth it, these cars have a tendency to work (react well to certain mods) using items 'outside the box'.
__________________ 03 SE 4AT 242whp/238wtq
95 SE 4AT 235k Miles
Damn thats crazy!! I guess this contradicts what most will say that a 3" exhaust on a NA VQ will loose too much power and only gain it in the top end.
Hey Brian, any development for the cattman 3" for the 4th gen? Or maybe a 3" ID Muffler?
Well, the way I personally look at it, we have a single exhaust... in the 350z aftermarket world... you have true dual 2.5" exhausts, that are gaining power, so you simply have 2.5" per 3 cylinders... where as we have 2.5" per 6... so yea, I could easily see how it could be done... I would love to put 2.5" exhaust back on the car and then take it off and put 3" just to make sure 100% that this was 100% from the exhaust, but I personally can't think of anything else we have changed... had intake header and exhaust on the first dyno, along with emanage, same trans, same clutch, same flywheel, same tires... emanage was not tuned in any of the runs... so
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1997 Volkswagen Jetta TDI
TDI = Turbocharged Direct Injection NOT Turbocharged Diesel Injection.
I was kinda surprised that this hadn't been tried already, K20 guys have been putting 3" exhausts on their 4 bangers with great results. Hope it goes into production.
I was kinda surprised that this hadn't been tried already, K20 guys have been putting 3" exhausts on their 4 bangers with great results. Hope it goes into production.
Same with the all-motor SR20VE guys. Interesting indeed.
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Tuning a car isn't a crime, but spelling it "tunning" ought to be. - ....
can you put a 3" exhaust on the car and still see the same horsepower gains with a stock muffler? or do you need an aftermarket muffler... cause i don't want all that noise, but i want the power
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2003 6 speed TE
Looks: Superwhite LEDs Inside Smoked Side Markers
Performance: Stillen Intake with Custom MAF-TB Pipe, NWP Phenolic Intake Spacers, NWP Block Off Plate, Cattman Gen 3 Headers, Custom 3" Magnaflow Cat-back Exhaust
Suspension: Tokico Illumina Struts, Ebay FSTB, Progress RSB