Go Back   Maxima Forums > Track and Tune > Dyno Discussion and Slips

Dyno Discussion and Slips Discussion and a moderated "Dyno Slips" sub-forum to allow for posting of dyno slips.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-31-2008, 01:10 PM   #1
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
iTrader: (9)
Posts: 2,084
Send a message via AIM to 95BLKMAX
3.5 Swap + 4psi of Turbo



Keep in mind, its a huge f'ing turbo. Stock the HX35 is meant to flow 19psi, so 4psi is well below its efficient range.

More pictures and VIDEOS coming from gtr_rider are soon on their way.
__________________
NA-Built Baseline
95BLKMAX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 01:13 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
iTrader: (5)
Posts: 798
Send a message via AIM to 98MaXeDouT
TUNE THAT THING!!!!


Also contemplate the z32 maf...But nice numbers anyway man! You seem to also have that damn dead spot in the midrange ~3800....EU it and crank up the timing!
__________________
Stock.

Last edited by 98MaXeDouT; 01-31-2008 at 01:17 PM.
98MaXeDouT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 01:45 PM   #3
Certified Hooptie
 
NmexMAX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Espanola, NM
iTrader: (11)
Posts: 27,119

Send a message via AIM to NmexMAX Send a message via MSN to NmexMAX Send a message via Yahoo to NmexMAX
Where's the comp to NA? I see no DRF's in my inbox.
__________________
03 SE 4AT 242whp/238wtq
95 SE 4AT 235k Miles

NmexMAX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 01:58 PM   #4
Hi
 
Mymax97's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: broomall pa 19008
iTrader: (10)
Posts: 1,240

Send a message via AIM to Mymax97
outch i thought itd be in the high high 200s. But i guess its all because of the efficiency range. Have fun with it though. Wish my 3.5 swap had a turbo on it too.
__________________
Mymax97 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 02:16 PM   #5
12's or bust
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Philly
iTrader: (31)
Posts: 3,102

if I remember correctly from 3k-56k your dyno graph looks almost the same as your n/a runs and from 56k and beyond you made alittle more power.

did you heat wrap your piping yet if not that should help you pickup a few ponies in the 5-56k range till you turn up the boost

6psi FTW till you install the IC
__________________

My Cardomain _ _Maxima runs 14.30 N/A
Mevi/I/Y/E/N
Dyno:258whp & 267wtq
Nitrous PB: 13.9@95mph
All Motor PB: 14.3@95mph
Looking to join the 300whp club in 2008
3280lb with driver, full trim, rims, spare, jack, fluids, etc and notorized proof
t6378tp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 02:20 PM   #6
SC Overspinning Swapper!!
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Houston, Tx
iTrader: (12)
Posts: 274

Not bad, although the A/F is a little rich for my taste. A bit more power can be had with a slightly leaner A/F (especially at that low boost level).

I can already see that beast peeking out, can't wait to see the results once your open it up.


I better start thinking about upping my game
__________________
Built/swapped VQ35, 6-speed HLSD, SC boosted....and daily driven
443whp/378wtq

meximax is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 02:24 PM   #7
12's or bust
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Philly
iTrader: (31)
Posts: 3,102

Quote:
Originally Posted by meximax View Post
Not bad, although the A/F is a little rich for my taste. A bit more power can be had with a slightly leaner A/F (especially at that low boost level).

I can already see that beast peeking out, can't wait to see the results once your open it up.


I better start thinking about upping my game
guess he guess wanted to play it safe with the a/f
__________________

My Cardomain _ _Maxima runs 14.30 N/A
Mevi/I/Y/E/N
Dyno:258whp & 267wtq
Nitrous PB: 13.9@95mph
All Motor PB: 14.3@95mph
Looking to join the 300whp club in 2008
3280lb with driver, full trim, rims, spare, jack, fluids, etc and notorized proof
t6378tp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 04:22 PM   #8
GO TEAM GO
 
Kevlo911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: DeFuniak and Gainesville, FL
iTrader: (32)
Posts: 15,226
9psi + 11.7-12afr =
__________________
97 Pearl White Max GLE
191WHP and 201WTQ

yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


Auto tranny parts for sale, Stock VB , Flex Plate, and more! ect...
Kevlo911 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 04:36 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
iTrader: (3)
Posts: 1,804
Send a message via AIM to streetzlegend Send a message via Yahoo to streetzlegend
Well, i told him to tune for 10.5 since his non intercooled to keep it a little rich to prevent knock, but i guess at 4psi it can be leaner. also guys, he dosnt have his piping wrapped yet, that should help alot, it did for me. Also remember, this is on 4psi way below the turbos efficient leve, and also with the timing retarded of the 3.5 swap. Once this puppy has the intercooler and higher boost, watch out meximax! lol
__________________


Currently Under construction check my progress so far http://forums.maxima.org/supercharge...-new-post.html
Auto, TO4b(10psi), 2.1 60' 8.6@82 1/8th , 312WHP/301WTQ[/b]
streetzlegend is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 04:40 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
iTrader: (3)
Posts: 1,804
Send a message via AIM to streetzlegend Send a message via Yahoo to streetzlegend
here's the vid's yall

http://www.youtube.com/user/gtrrider
__________________


Currently Under construction check my progress so far http://forums.maxima.org/supercharge...-new-post.html
Auto, TO4b(10psi), 2.1 60' 8.6@82 1/8th , 312WHP/301WTQ[/b]
streetzlegend is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 04:42 PM   #11
Supporting Maxima.org Member
 
505max94se's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: WA
iTrader: (7)
Posts: 1,557

Definitely not enough psi for this turbo.

I found this hx35 map on a dsm forum. It may not be the real one, but it looks like it is. The dsm forum that I found it on also had REAL holset hx40 maps.

I mapped out a vq30 the other day and I'm not sure if I did it right... oh well.
__________________

My CarDomain Page
505max94se is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 06:17 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
iTrader: (9)
Posts: 2,084
Send a message via AIM to 95BLKMAX
Quote:
Originally Posted by 98MaXeDouT View Post
TUNE THAT THING!!!!


Also contemplate the z32 maf...But nice numbers anyway man! You seem to also have that damn dead spot in the midrange ~3800....EU it and crank up the timing!
Heck no, considering what this engine has coming at it in the next few weeks or months, advancing the timing is the last thing I need, lol. And yea I am contemplating the Z32 MAF. We'll see once I turn up the boost and change the MAF Input how it goes, lol.

Quote:
Originally Posted by NmexMAX View Post
Where's the comp to NA? I see no DRF's in my inbox.
I'll send you DRFs when you sign on AIM. And here's the graph...


I chose not to use the dyno from the cutout, cus obviously i dont have a cutout here. But even THIS comparo isnt fair- I was attempting timing advance and had ubber corrections on the AFC from the high FP I had, which I dont have anymore. So really the gains from one to another are considerably more than the graph shows. What they are exactly, who knows and who cares, lol. Now Im comparing what the dyno says from each boost level heheh. This was just the first one.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mymax97 View Post
outch i thought itd be in the high high 200s. But i guess its all because of the efficiency range. Have fun with it though. Wish my 3.5 swap had a turbo on it too.
Exactly. This turbo doesnt even know its spinning, lol. Take streetz' car for example- when he first dyno'd at 7.5psi, he was at 258whp. He turned up the boost to 10psi (just 2.5psi more!) and out of no where 312whp. Efficiency makes a world of difference. The more efficient the turbo is running, the more WHP you're going to gain per PSI incremented.

Quote:
Originally Posted by t6378tp View Post
if I remember correctly from 3k-56k your dyno graph looks almost the same as your n/a runs and from 56k and beyond you made alittle more power.

did you heat wrap your piping yet if not that should help you pickup a few ponies in the 5-56k range till you turn up the boost

6psi FTW till you install the IC
yea basically, lol. Remember its only 4psi, so its def similar shapes, just higher, lol.

My y-pipe and straight pipe are wrapped. I didnt wrap the B-pipe because I was contemplating changing the resonator, but really, its perfectly fine. But I think Im going to keep it. I love how the car sounds.

Quote:
Originally Posted by meximax View Post
Not bad, although the A/F is a little rich for my taste. A bit more power can be had with a slightly leaner A/F (especially at that low boost level).

I can already see that beast peeking out, can't wait to see the results once your open it up.

I better start thinking about upping my game
Yea I COULD lean it out but no point if Im going to be adding boost.

Oh yea, once that IC is on, Im going for 6psi and keep it there for a bit til I get used to it. Slowly but surely, that BC is going to vent more and more .

Please dont up your game for a long while; give me a chance to catch up first! LOL

Quote:
Originally Posted by t6378tp View Post
guess he guess wanted to play it safe with the a/f
Correct

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevlo911 View Post
9psi + 11.7-12afr =
Im lost meng... But I'll see j00 for the March Meet :-D

Quote:
Originally Posted by streetzlegend View Post
gtr_rider-

THANKS!!!! :-D

Quote:
Originally Posted by 505max94se View Post
Definitely not enough psi for this turbo.

I found this hx35 map on a dsm forum. It may not be the real one, but it looks like it is. The dsm forum that I found it on also had REAL holset hx40 maps.

I mapped out a vq30 the other day and I'm not sure if I did it right... oh well.
Funny how I made a similar diagram LOL. But yes thank you for posting up yours
__________________
NA-Built Baseline
95BLKMAX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 07:49 PM   #13
192.168.1.1
 
gtr_rider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Yuh Mom's, NO
iTrader: (43)
Posts: 17,292
Car sounds like a monster once that turbo starts to speak up,
__________________

VQpower.com
Need work done:
Suspension, Engine, Brakes, Cosmetic, Headlight Retrofits
gtr_rider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 07:58 PM   #14
192.168.1.1
 
gtr_rider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Yuh Mom's, NO
iTrader: (43)
Posts: 17,292
Pictures:





__________________

VQpower.com
Need work done:
Suspension, Engine, Brakes, Cosmetic, Headlight Retrofits
gtr_rider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 08:06 PM   #15
Supporting Maxima.org Member
 
505max94se's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: WA
iTrader: (7)
Posts: 1,557

Quote:
Originally Posted by 95BLKMAX View Post
Funny how I made a similar diagram LOL. But yes thank you for posting up yours
No problem.

What compressor map did you find for the hx35?

Are you using the internal WG? If so, where did you get your actuator?

I like your setup!
__________________

My CarDomain Page
505max94se is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 09:18 PM   #16
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
iTrader: (9)
Posts: 2,084
Send a message via AIM to 95BLKMAX
Quote:
Originally Posted by 505max94se View Post
No problem.

What compressor map did you find for the hx35?

Are you using the internal WG? If so, where did you get your actuator?

I like your setup!
I used a normal GT35 comp map, since the HX35 is rumored to have an very similar map to the GT35.

No the internal WG flap is welded shut. Im running a Turbonetics Deltagate Evolution WG. The actuator actually came with the turbo, but I threw it away last week.
__________________
NA-Built Baseline
95BLKMAX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 09:30 PM   #17
o-mazing grace
 
EnervinE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: KCMO-ish
iTrader: (4)
Posts: 1,052

That is a huge turbo lol. Can't wait to see what numbers you're hitting when you bump the boost up, intercool, and tune.

Are you going to do some tidying up back there? turbo/filter protection and oil line connectors other than zip ties would be a plus.
__________________

: Illuminas : Progress : Muranos : Falken : Budget SS Y : Dynomax : PRCAI :
: Red/Clears : 35% Tint : Sony Xplod : Dual MTX BT 12" 1000w : Kenwood 600w :
EnervinE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 10:18 PM   #18
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
iTrader: (9)
Posts: 2,084
Send a message via AIM to 95BLKMAX
Quote:
Originally Posted by EnervinE View Post
That is a huge turbo lol. Can't wait to see what numbers you're hitting when you bump the boost up, intercool, and tune.

Are you going to do some tidying up back there? turbo/filter protection and oil line connectors other than zip ties would be a plus.
Indeed!!!! Filter I may just make a shield for it (too cheap to buy one) facing the front-bottom part of it to better protect it from the blast of dirt.... or just wash it once a month, lol.

I dont see anything wrong with using zipties to hold up the feed line, lol. not like they're holding weight, they're just there to keep the line from dangling.
__________________
NA-Built Baseline
95BLKMAX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2008, 07:04 AM   #19
GO TEAM GO
 
Kevlo911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: DeFuniak and Gainesville, FL
iTrader: (32)
Posts: 15,226
I'm really liking the rear mount idea... Do you or streetz get any drone?
__________________
97 Pearl White Max GLE
191WHP and 201WTQ

yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


Auto tranny parts for sale, Stock VB , Flex Plate, and more! ect...
Kevlo911 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2008, 07:41 AM   #20
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
iTrader: (9)
Posts: 2,084
Send a message via AIM to 95BLKMAX
actually, streetz gets drone, but thats cus he's auto so long gears FTL (in that sense, cus the turbo sure works better with the auto), but thats only when he opens the cutout which is directly infront of the turbine outlet. With it closed and it going through the muffler, you dont even hear it.. Quieter than stock.

Mine surprisingly with no muffler, just that "downpipe/ tailpipe", I get no drone/ resonance at all. My exh setup concists of ebay hotshot knock off headers on a custom equal-length ypipe, WSP straight pipe, WSP Resonated Bpipe, the T3 turbine housing of the turbo, and then that 3" downpipe/ tailpipe
__________________
NA-Built Baseline
95BLKMAX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2008, 10:05 AM   #21
00vi'dvq30devq354.5genftw
 
ajcool2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Baltimore, Md
iTrader: (12)
Posts: 7,003

Send a message via AIM to ajcool2 Send a message via MSN to ajcool2 Send a message via Yahoo to ajcool2
Very nice cant wait for the big numbers. You florida guys are making it hard to be the first to do anything anymore. I guess I'll have to shoot for the first 3.5 swapped turbo auto 4th gen.
__________________
DCMAX FTW
The Green Lantern 14.98@90mph 60' 2.14 AUTO (Before the 00VI) 170 HP 3140lb w/driver
The Dark Phoenix 13.517@102.3mph 60' 2.0 AUTO 245 RWHP 3280lb w/driver

Fear me.
VQ35 Swap Progress Thread
ajcool2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2008, 11:01 AM   #22
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
iTrader: (5)