sparks03max ripped me off
04-05-2012, 06:58 AM
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sparks03max ripped me off
I paid John Sparks 420 + paypal fees for a custom IM he never produced.
He has still yet to pay me back and keeps claiming to be broke. Any help you guys can give me getting my money back is appreciated. He stopped responding to my txts & emails.
He has had my money for 6 months.
He has still yet to pay me back and keeps claiming to be broke. Any help you guys can give me getting my money back is appreciated. He stopped responding to my txts & emails.
He has had my money for 6 months.
Last edited by NYCBL00D; 04-05-2012 at 07:43 AM.
04-05-2012, 07:11 AM
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I hope it all works out but at this point, I don't know.
04-05-2012, 10:35 AM
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Paypal told me it is not their problem, and they never investigate after 45 days and it doesn't matter the circumstances. I will call my bank next.
Anyone who has any suggestions on my next steps to take it would be greatly appreciated.
edit: contacting IC3 and the NC DOJ I hate to get to gov involved but this is ridiculous.
Anyone who has any suggestions on my next steps to take it would be greatly appreciated.
edit: contacting IC3 and the NC DOJ I hate to get to gov involved but this is ridiculous.
Last edited by NYCBL00D; 04-05-2012 at 11:00 AM.
04-05-2012, 10:43 AM
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04-05-2012, 12:09 PM
#10
DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH THIS MEMBER - OWES PEOPLE MONEY
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It took me 2 days to respond to your most recent texts and I apologize for that, but don't pretend you emailed me or I've been unresponsive because we've spoken about this quite a few times without me ever leaving you without a response. In fact, it looks like you posted this thread after receiving my response this morning, though the timestamps could be off.
Considering the fact that I've already sent out over 2,000 dollars in refunds associated with this deal, it shouldn't be hard to understand why I have been so broke and it should be pretty obvious that I'm not trying to scam anybody. Almost all the down payment money was spent on materials that were never used, so it's not like I had it sitting around to just give back unless you want to be paid in aluminum. All of the refunds have been out of pocket.
Regarding getting your money back, I told you that I would get it back april 3rd and I was not able to. I gave you some specifics as to why in my text response and that is the best I can do for now. Regardless of the circumstances, do what you have to do and I'll do what I have to do.
Considering the fact that I've already sent out over 2,000 dollars in refunds associated with this deal, it shouldn't be hard to understand why I have been so broke and it should be pretty obvious that I'm not trying to scam anybody. Almost all the down payment money was spent on materials that were never used, so it's not like I had it sitting around to just give back unless you want to be paid in aluminum. All of the refunds have been out of pocket.
Regarding getting your money back, I told you that I would get it back april 3rd and I was not able to. I gave you some specifics as to why in my text response and that is the best I can do for now. Regardless of the circumstances, do what you have to do and I'll do what I have to do.
04-05-2012, 01:04 PM
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It took me 2 days to respond to your most recent texts and I apologize for that, but don't pretend you emailed me or I've been unresponsive because we've spoken about this quite a few times without me ever leaving you without a response. In fact, it looks like you posted this thread after receiving my response this morning, though the timestamps could be off.
Considering the fact that I've already sent out over 2,000 dollars in refunds associated with this deal, it shouldn't be hard to understand why I have been so broke and it should be pretty obvious that I'm not trying to scam anybody. Almost all the down payment money was spent on materials that were never used, so it's not like I had it sitting around to just give back unless you want to be paid in aluminum. All of the refunds have been out of pocket.
Regarding getting your money back, I told you that I would get it back april 3rd and I was not able to. I gave you some specifics as to why in my text response and that is the best I can do for now. Regardless of the circumstances, do what you have to do and I'll do what I have to do.
Considering the fact that I've already sent out over 2,000 dollars in refunds associated with this deal, it shouldn't be hard to understand why I have been so broke and it should be pretty obvious that I'm not trying to scam anybody. Almost all the down payment money was spent on materials that were never used, so it's not like I had it sitting around to just give back unless you want to be paid in aluminum. All of the refunds have been out of pocket.
Regarding getting your money back, I told you that I would get it back april 3rd and I was not able to. I gave you some specifics as to why in my text response and that is the best I can do for now. Regardless of the circumstances, do what you have to do and I'll do what I have to do.
screw the new unknown guy. Maybe so maybe not I doubt we'll ever know.You never have ever responded to my emails that I sent to your gmail account, that is a fact. You also have been promising for 3 months I would have my money in two week intervals. I check my account, no money, I send a txt, 3 days later you respond and then promise it will be there two-three weeks later. I have the txts, I could post them, but I know it would do no good. That is why I have had to make this thread. I find it hard to believe you have not spent money on yourself these last 3 months. Did you buy beer or dope? Go out to a bar? Buy a candy bar? I would have loved to get $50 or $100 at a time. Payment plan would have worked just fine. You probably could have strung me out 6 months or longer if I got a little here and there.
Why don't you sell your mods on your car? That should easily be over $420 + my paypal fees. Or make me an intake manifold? Hell I'll even take a 'hackjob' like your 1st one. I don't believe you have no options to pay me which is what you are making it sound like. Find a Pawn Shop and sell some gold. Pawn a watch. Whatever you need to do should be done you have had my money for over 6 months which frankly is ridiculous.
The moment I receive my $420 + pay pal fees I will have this thread removed and any other negative posts removed. Until then, this thread will remain as a warning to other members and to alert them of your business practices.
I am very sorry this has ended in the way it has. I am sure you feel the same.
Last edited by NYCBL00D; 04-05-2012 at 01:32 PM.
04-05-2012, 03:44 PM
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Only because it has been over 3 months and he has held onto my money for over 6 months. Originally I wasn't asking for them. This is fair, trust me.
Sparks,
It is so damn easy to come up with such small cash: ask your parents for the cash, goto your bank and take out a personal loan, cash advance on a credit card, goto a loan shark, pawn shop, sell mods, get a part time job flipping burgers for 3 weeks. Come the **** on and man up.
Sparks,
It is so damn easy to come up with such small cash: ask your parents for the cash, goto your bank and take out a personal loan, cash advance on a credit card, goto a loan shark, pawn shop, sell mods, get a part time job flipping burgers for 3 weeks. Come the **** on and man up.
Last edited by NYCBL00D; 04-05-2012 at 03:46 PM.
04-06-2012, 04:18 AM
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um, if you're out of a job 'such small cash' is a large lump sum...i know it's been a while, but i'm just saying. but if it's a refund it's just a refund of what he sent you, i can't see paypal fees, because he incurred paypal fees when you sent him the money. i can't see where that's fair. he can send you the money as a gift and you'll get your $420 back in full
04-06-2012, 11:03 AM
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04-06-2012, 04:02 PM
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DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH THIS MEMBER - OWES PEOPLE MONEY
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Only because it has been over 3 months and he has held onto my money for over 6 months. Originally I wasn't asking for them. This is fair, trust me.
Sparks,
It is so damn easy to come up with such small cash: ask your parents for the cash, goto your bank and take out a personal loan, cash advance on a credit card, goto a loan shark, pawn shop, sell mods, get a part time job flipping burgers for 3 weeks. Come the **** on and man up.
Sparks,
It is so damn easy to come up with such small cash: ask your parents for the cash, goto your bank and take out a personal loan, cash advance on a credit card, goto a loan shark, pawn shop, sell mods, get a part time job flipping burgers for 3 weeks. Come the **** on and man up.
You guys realize my car is demodded right? I sold everything but the headers between the forums and local people, and only b/c it's too much trouble to remove them and try to find replacements.
Like I told you, I'm going to get it to you as soon as I can scrape it together. If you don't believe it then do what you gotta do until then.
Last edited by sparks03max; 04-06-2012 at 04:11 PM.
04-06-2012, 10:04 PM
#20
Wow.
I don't think sparks is trying to screw you, man. He's a stand-up guy. He's done plenty of business on here before.
I've even spoken to him about making several transactions, although they fell through because I came up short on money.
Give him time, and I guarantee you that he'll get you what's due. It's tough to refund money when you're down and out.
He's been a very important member of this community, and I highly doubt that he'd be out to ruin his reputation over something like this.
I don't think sparks is trying to screw you, man. He's a stand-up guy. He's done plenty of business on here before.
I've even spoken to him about making several transactions, although they fell through because I came up short on money.
Give him time, and I guarantee you that he'll get you what's due. It's tough to refund money when you're down and out.
He's been a very important member of this community, and I highly doubt that he'd be out to ruin his reputation over something like this.
04-09-2012, 07:56 PM
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Wow.
I don't think sparks is trying to screw you, man. He's a stand-up guy. He's done plenty of business on here before.
I've even spoken to him about making several transactions, although they fell through because I came up short on money.
Give him time, and I guarantee you that he'll get you what's due. It's tough to refund money when you're down and out.
He's been a very important member of this community, and I highly doubt that he'd be out to ruin his reputation over something like this.
I don't think sparks is trying to screw you, man. He's a stand-up guy. He's done plenty of business on here before.
I've even spoken to him about making several transactions, although they fell through because I came up short on money.
Give him time, and I guarantee you that he'll get you what's due. It's tough to refund money when you're down and out.
He's been a very important member of this community, and I highly doubt that he'd be out to ruin his reputation over something like this.
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/6...roduction.html
04-09-2012, 11:18 PM
#23
I guess I stand corrected.
Sparks always seemed like a decent guy, at least back when he was a regular on the forum. Maybe I was wrong. I do tend to give everyone the benefit of a doubt, though, before I write them off as a douche/***/what have you.
Sparks always seemed like a decent guy, at least back when he was a regular on the forum. Maybe I was wrong. I do tend to give everyone the benefit of a doubt, though, before I write them off as a douche/***/what have you.
04-10-2012, 06:46 AM
#25
you think he wouldnt be a standup guy if he had a job and was able to send money back out? i understand the OP's frustration for sure, but it seems like the length's he's taken to try to satisfy everyone he didnt try to short anyone...but i'm an outsider looking in. GL w/ trying to get your money back
04-10-2012, 08:18 AM
#26
I went through this same crap with another shop. I just did a chargeback on my credit card through the bank and got ALL my money back. the company never responded to the dispute so I won. They had nothing to go on anyway. I dont know how paypal handles disputes. But this is the reason I use credit cards for EVERYTHING.
04-10-2012, 08:43 AM
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04-10-2012, 08:57 AM
#28
I went through this same crap with another shop. I just did a chargeback on my credit card through the bank and got ALL my money back. the company never responded to the dispute so I won. They had nothing to go on anyway. I dont know how paypal handles disputes. But this is the reason I use credit cards for EVERYTHING.
As far as the CC company is concerned, if PayPal lets the seller keep your money in a scam situation, PayPal is basically stealing your money. You'll lose your PayPal account, but at least you'll have your money.
04-10-2012, 09:34 AM
#29
Exactly. Even if PayPal sides with the seller, a simple call to your credit card company, and you'll have your money back.
As far as the CC company is concerned, if PayPal lets the seller keep your money in a scam situation, PayPal is basically stealing your money. You'll lose your PayPal account, but at least you'll have your money.
As far as the CC company is concerned, if PayPal lets the seller keep your money in a scam situation, PayPal is basically stealing your money. You'll lose your PayPal account, but at least you'll have your money.
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