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Old 11-05-2011, 11:12 AM
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Sorry guys I'm going to be making this out of Aluminum. Not only is it more fun for me, but it will be more pretty for you guys. You can always have it coated to reject heat!

The whole plastic thing will be complicated and I'll have to source out the work . Plus, I won't be able to have a huge set of custom options like I can with the aluminum version.

Going to have options for elbow in 3", 3.25", 3.5". For TB, you can send me any aluminum TB plate and I'll use that, or I will try to offer stock 5.5, stock 4th, and PFTB plates.

The runners will have beveled velocity stacks inside the IM, since this improves performance of intake manifolds tremendously. I should also have 2" or so of play with runner length, to give you a choice of more topend, or more low/midrange.

With a plain, single-piece plastic IM, there would be no way to give these options.

This will be a side feed intake manifold so that we have room for enough volume, custom runners, and 3.5" elbows without hitting the firewall. Thankfully I'm well versed in the math needed to make these flow evenly!
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Originally Posted by sparks03max
Sorry guys I'm going to be making this out of Aluminum. Not only is it more fun for me, but it will be more pretty for you guys. You can always have it coated to reject heat!

The whole plastic thing will be complicated and I'll have to source out the work . Plus, I won't be able to have a huge set of custom options like I can with the aluminum version.
No apology needed! The plastic IM idea was just me thinking out of the box. Ever since you educated me on the fact that, what I assumed was a cheap plastic IM on my car was the excellent 00VI! I figured, if your awesome design could be made of the same material it'd be even better. Sounds like you've got some great improvements/options planned, go for it Sparks!
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by sparks03max
Sorry guys I'm going to be making this out of Aluminum. Not only is it more fun for me, but it will be more pretty for you guys. You can always have it coated to reject heat!

The whole plastic thing will be complicated and I'll have to source out the work . Plus, I won't be able to have a huge set of custom options like I can with the aluminum version.

Going to have options for elbow in 3", 3.25", 3.5". For TB, you can send me any aluminum TB plate and I'll use that, or I will try to offer stock 5.5, stock 4th, and PFTB plates.

The runners will have beveled velocity stacks inside the IM, since this improves performance of intake manifolds tremendously. I should also have 2" or so of play with runner length, to give you a choice of more topend, or more low/midrange.

With a plain, single-piece plastic IM, there would be no way to give these options.

This will be a side feed intake manifold so that we have room for enough volume, custom runners, and 3.5" elbows without hitting the firewall. Thankfully I'm well versed in the math needed to make these flow evenly!

So you could offer this custom manifold with the ability to mount a 90mm drive by wire throttle body on it?

Does anyone have a link to a 90mm dbw throttle body? Everything I find online looks like junk.

edit: Any more info on the 300+whp Altima? I would def go with the 2'' shorter runners. I wonder how much of a difference it would make...Any Idea of the possible cost of these custom IM and their tentative availability?

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Originally Posted by NYCBL00D
So you could offer this custom manifold with the ability to mount a 90mm drive by wire throttle body on it?

Does anyone have a link to a 90mm dbw throttle body? Everything I find online looks like junk.

edit: Any more info on the 300+whp Altima? I would def go with the 2'' shorter runners. I wonder how much of a difference it would make...Any Idea of the possible cost of these custom IM and their tentative availability?
I believe it's the LS2 TB that is compatible. I haven't personally had any experience with it.

I believe the price of this IM will be between 1000-1100 before shipping, possibly a little more or a little less depending on custom options.

Going to start building the first one in a couple of weeks. At that point I will post up a thread to gauge interest and try to get a list/timeline together.
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Originally Posted by sparks03max
I believe the price of this IM will be between 1000-1100 before shipping, possibly a little more or a little less depending on custom options.

Going to start building the first one in a couple of weeks. At that point I will post up a thread to gauge interest and try to get a list/timeline together.
Sounds good. I'm definitely interested.
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I've been following this thread and I was impressed with the gains that were made with the custom UIM, especially after watching the dyno video.
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You can use one of three throttle bodies as i see it.Stock 70mm, the 2k7 tb at 75mm, or The 90mm LS2 throttle body. Any of these will be a plug and play into the 6 wire prong that you have in your car, just do a little splicing, or get at Darren (Surratt)

The 90mm throttle body is GM part number 12602800
The pigtail that you will need to adapt the harness is 88988106
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Also interested.

It seemed like you were able to bang out the first one relatively quick. Do you have any target date you were looking to get a few of these out by?
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Originally Posted by Cant_Get_Ryte
You can use one of three throttle bodies as i see it.Stock 70mm, the 2k7 tb at 75mm, or The 90mm LS2 throttle body. Any of these will be a plug and play into the 6 wire prong that you have in your car, just do a little splicing, or get at Darren (Surratt)

90mm GM throttle body that is made by Hitachi (same manufacturer for the Z/G TB). It uses the exact same actuator and sensors, so the opperation is the same, just with more surface area. <--neat!

The 90mm throttle body is GM part number 12602800
The pigtail that you will need to adapt the harness is 88988106
90mm GM throttle body that is made by Hitachi (same manufacturer for the Z/G TB). It uses the exact same actuator and sensors, so the opperation is the same, just with more surface area. <--neat!

If that is the case I can't see why to go with anything but the 90MM TB, it is only like $100 bucks online. That is assuming it will idle ok...Hopefully an AFC can fix any idle issues. Otherwise I guess you would need a stand alone...
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Originally Posted by Cant_Get_Ryte
You can use one of three throttle bodies as i see it.Stock 70mm, the 2k7 tb at 75mm, or The 90mm LS2 throttle body. Any of these will be a plug and play into the 6 wire prong that you have in your car, just do a little splicing, or get at Darren (Surratt)

The 90mm throttle body is GM part number 12602800
The pigtail that you will need to adapt the harness is 88988106
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Also interested.

It seemed like you were able to bang out the first one relatively quick. Do you have any target date you were looking to get a few of these out by?
We're probably looking at early December for the first one to go out. After that, it's just going to depend on how fast I can make production time.
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Just a thought.... why wouldn't a tubular style plenum like skunk2 makes work? Using a big aluminum pipe and attaching runners to that would likely be more cost effective.
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Just a thought.... why wouldn't a tubular style plenum like skunk2 makes work? Using a big aluminum pipe and attaching runners to that would likely be more cost effective.
You may have missed the discussion, but the IM design that I will be producing will be a side feed plenum with custom runners. It won't just be a piece of pipe for the plenum, though... That is an easy way to get uneven airflow and end up with a couple of really lean cylinders. Working out the design on FlowWorks to get the most efficient/even flow pattern
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Here's a quick rough sketch in paint of the basic shape... Best I can do for the moment.


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Looks good. I can't wait to see the results and finished product.
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Looks sweet.
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interesting thread....It's going to be interesting to see the final product
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That's the craziest thing i've ever seen. I would never think that someone would want to think outside the box and create their own IM. Gotta rate you for that man. Question, how much time and money did you put into it? and theoredically speaking. If someone wanted you to custom build them one how much would you charge?
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Originally Posted by mrjasonlyrics
That's the craziest thing i've ever seen. I would never think that someone would want to think outside the box and create their own IM. Gotta rate you for that man. Question, how much time and money did you put into it? and theoredically speaking. If someone wanted you to custom build them one how much would you charge?
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/6...roduction.html
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