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I'm not sure if a thread like this has already been made if so I'll just delete it. Not sure how much dialogue has happened about the new manifold, so far I havent seen much and hopefully this can be the place to consolidate information,rumors, and/or myths about it.
Thew new design looks better than the old aluminum design. I'm not sure how the runners are length or anything but hopefully we can get some facts in here, and see if and how well the new manifold flows than the old one.
Assuming it does flow better and would be a good improvement for older VQ35DEs, here are some part numbers incase people want to order it and slap it on their current motor.
Upper IM: 14013M - 245.54
Lower IM: 14003 - 73.02
Lower to Upper Gasket: 14040E: 15.19
manifold to TB gasket: 16293M: $14.10
Heads to lower IM gasket: 14035 - $8.65
Total: $356.50
I'm not sure if the Throttle body mounting holes are the same. i'd assume so, and if so then the Throttle body wouldn't be needed also
Prices and part number gotten from coutesy's web site.
Where are the moderators???? This guy should have been banned after his first reply when he first joined this forum! I'm totally in awe with his behavior and ruthless antics on someone else's thread!!!!! I believe he's broken every rule at least twice...????????
I'm going to keep researching it. Once I find out it flows more than the previous plenum and by how much I very well might start making calls. Plus since the new plenum is a different material than the previous plenum I think it may handle heat better.
I'm sure it does flow better - I had a 09 as a rental and popped the hood - I wanted to take the UIM lol. Obviously I didn't.
I wonder though from the intake box to the actual manifold if everything would swap out or if we could use the 5.5gen parts that are there....
I dont see why you couldnt use your 5.5th gen parts intake wise. If there is enuff space it should be fine, but I would anticapate having to be a little creative with making it work.
it will depend on how far out or how short the elbows sticks out.
If its a little shorter then I'd say it would be fine.
a little longer it might poke into the strut hump part or other lines.
Would be nice if I could just borrow one - I wonder if they have a decent return policy at the Nissan dealership if things don't/can't work out with in reason....
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To install/do this spring - Powdercoat 18" G35s//RSTB//Stillen Lip
I assume this manifold is differnt from the Altima ones ? I belive there was a thread about it but never progress.
If indeed this setup work I will be making a call as well.
I wonder how much change in the LIM , I wondering if the ports are the same as previous.
I guess with this material manifold we wouldnt need the spacers.
Anyways good shat !
I think this is the same manifold that the altimas have. the black palstic IM.
I need to check part numbers and see if the LIM on previous vq35de are the same. If so then just the upper plenum and gaskets would be needed.
I dont think the spacers would be needed since this IM would be better resistant to heat. I'm going to PM Aaron and see if his spacer kit would have benefits on this plenum.
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umm...when checking part numbers the LIM for a 04-08 maxima versus the 09 with the new im..the part number is the same...
so unless Nissan didnt bother to give it a new part number or the LIM is still the same. Which would mean just the Upper IM and gaskets would be needed.
the part number for the upper on a 04-08 is different than the 09.
I wish there was someone around with an 09 that would let me pull it apart and physically verify
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Still begs the question of .... ^all of the above^
huh?
I guess you mean the question of will it still work? well with the LIM being the same as its always been since the vq35 in 02 then I see no reason for it not to work.
It will bolt up from what we can see. Space wise will be the next issue. The plenum seems to have this angle to it. I dont think it would hit the fire wall but only one way to find out.
I might just go to the dealer to visually see the part....that may be an option
that would be good. Help give a visual, and see how it fits and etc. if you do go please snap some pics! I search online for pics but not many take engine shots
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Was just referring to the whole thread - will it work and if so what modifications will need to be done, prove gains etc
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that would be good. Help give a visual, and see how it fits and etc. if you do go please snap some pics! I search online for pics but not many take engine shots
n/p ill see if i can do this friday
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To install/do this spring - Powdercoat 18" G35s//RSTB//Stillen Lip
Well supposly you will need the HR heads ? still not 100% sure and Travis rarely post as much.
I was just wondering about that... i saw in the thread where he has the motor, he says it has the HR heads for sure.
It could have HR heads but if the Lower intake manifold is still the same and can bolt up to a 04-08 and a 09 with HR heads then it should still theoretically work
travis needs to post up his progress and much much more pics.
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Good catch travis. Since I saw this IM and observed 07+ altima dynos I've realized that this is the best thing to happen to FWD VQ's. The torque of the functioning 2k2 VIAS and the top end of the SSIM and the heat rejecting goodness of the 00VI with a better LIM. What's not to love?
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Why would you need HR heads...?
I dont see why it would be needed. it maybe bolted up to HR heads but the bolt pattern is probably the same so it will make no difference
read that thread , Im going by what Travis and nismology brought up.
I have yet to see a 09 Maxima around here, I see them on the road but 9 times out of 10 they are older people driving it.
theres 2 at the dealership but its parked out in front, All my friends use to work at that dealer but they all left so theres alot of new mangers and I dont want to look like im about to pull a Elinor ( gone in 60 seconds )
I would love for the manifold to work with current LIM..but maybe nismology will shine the light on how thats not possible. I cant imagine the LIM ports to the heads being that different, but if they are off by too much then it wouldnt work as you would essentially have a huge vacc leak.
I would love for the manifold to work with current LIM..but maybe nismology will shine the light on how thats not possible. I cant imagine the LIM ports to the heads being that different, but if they are off by too much then it wouldnt work as you would essentially have a huge vacc leak.
your cars still at the shop? boost problems?
nopes First 6th gen with a 6spd swap.
got rid of the Autotragic 5ATs , the infamous 3-2 shift CLUNK !
I was hoping I would have it running for Aarons meet down here.
I guess im setback cause Courtesy Nissan didnt ship the part I need until this Monday when I order it on the 17th , they gave me a run around with the shipping dates and i finally had it this afternoon and talk to the manager.
He confirm it was shipped monday, All im missing is the carrier bearing, it bolts behind the block and holds the passenger axle in place.
the 5AT is differnt from 6SPD.
Imagine that... one part and my car can go Vroom !
The stud pattern on the 07+ altima heads are different. They are spaced out more than the OG DE heads. LIM will never fit without some pretty serious mods.
Yes the altima LIM looks more oval, and wider than the OG LIM... hard to tell but it does seem like the stud pattern is off...
Plus with the ports being a large more oval size it means it wouldnt fit onto DE heads properly, even if the stud pattern was the same, so no matter how you slice it HR heads will be needed, or the DE heads would need to be heavily modified/machined for the ports to match.