UTEC is in..........
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UTEC is in..........
I'll get a few pics up here, but it's basically what you've seen before.......box on the floor, alot of wires, hooked to the ecu. At any rate, thanks goes out to SurraTT for coming out and helping me with this install. He labeled and spliced all the pinouts for me, soldiered the wires I needed, and did the install to the Max as well. I could duplicate it if I wanted to, but I'd rather pay him to do it due to time constraints.
Anyway, we downloaded the 350z base map off of TurboXS.com which included the tune for an Intake and Exhaust. I can definitely feel the power now that it is semi tuned from this base map. The car runs smoother and is more responsive as well. There are a few hiccups when getting into the gas in a high gear, and also with the A/C on and getting into the gas in any gear. I'm sure my Air/Fuel is still a little out of wack, but when these cams go in this month I will get everything dyno tuned as well, and shoot for a flatline 13.5-14.0.
All in all I'm really liking the UTEC, but since it's not tweaked at the moment and running off the base map I know I still have more potential. Also, I like the fact that I can extend my rev limiter, and I'm now able to tune when I go FI with this thing. ARP rod bolts are going in at the same time as the cams. I'm also pairing the cams up with the VQ35HR Valvesprings and Retainers.
I will get a baseline before tuning after everything is installed, just to compare my gains after it's tuned. I would have loved to dyno after every individual mod, but that's just too much $ spent as I've dropped alot in this project already.
Mod list so far, and what is to come this month is below. I'm not sure on how much power I'll yield on the dyno, but I'm hoping to max her out as much as I can before I think about going FI with it.
Current hamsterpower contributed from:
Ported Air Box
Cattman Gen III Headers
Cattman Rear Section
SPEC Stage II Clutch
Fidanza Flywheel
17* Timing
UTEC with 350z Basemap
350z Thermostat
NGK Iridiums 1 Step Colder (From previous 75 shot Setup)
September Installs prior to dyno/tuning:
SSIM - Upper/Lower/Elbow
NWP Spacers port matched with SSIM
JWT S1 Cams (Knockoffs)
VQ35HR Valvesprings
VQ35HR Retainers
VQ35HR Spacers
Land Rover MAF
ARP Rod Bolts
7500 Rev Limit via UTEC
Sourcing at the moment:
Cattman Fastcat
Cattman B-pipe
Let me know if you have any of these to sell, I'd like to get them installed prior to tuning.
Additionally installed: (Should keep everything held together pretty good)
ES Poly Motor Mounts
ES Poly Control Arm Bushings
ES Poly Subframe Bushings
ES Poly Shifter Bushings
New Tie Rods
New Ball Joints
Am I missing anything here? Can I yield higher power with anything else?
Anyway, we downloaded the 350z base map off of TurboXS.com which included the tune for an Intake and Exhaust. I can definitely feel the power now that it is semi tuned from this base map. The car runs smoother and is more responsive as well. There are a few hiccups when getting into the gas in a high gear, and also with the A/C on and getting into the gas in any gear. I'm sure my Air/Fuel is still a little out of wack, but when these cams go in this month I will get everything dyno tuned as well, and shoot for a flatline 13.5-14.0.
All in all I'm really liking the UTEC, but since it's not tweaked at the moment and running off the base map I know I still have more potential. Also, I like the fact that I can extend my rev limiter, and I'm now able to tune when I go FI with this thing. ARP rod bolts are going in at the same time as the cams. I'm also pairing the cams up with the VQ35HR Valvesprings and Retainers.
I will get a baseline before tuning after everything is installed, just to compare my gains after it's tuned. I would have loved to dyno after every individual mod, but that's just too much $ spent as I've dropped alot in this project already.
Mod list so far, and what is to come this month is below. I'm not sure on how much power I'll yield on the dyno, but I'm hoping to max her out as much as I can before I think about going FI with it.
Current hamsterpower contributed from:
Ported Air Box
Cattman Gen III Headers
Cattman Rear Section
SPEC Stage II Clutch
Fidanza Flywheel
17* Timing
UTEC with 350z Basemap
350z Thermostat
NGK Iridiums 1 Step Colder (From previous 75 shot Setup)
September Installs prior to dyno/tuning:
SSIM - Upper/Lower/Elbow
NWP Spacers port matched with SSIM
JWT S1 Cams (Knockoffs)
VQ35HR Valvesprings
VQ35HR Retainers
VQ35HR Spacers
Land Rover MAF
ARP Rod Bolts
7500 Rev Limit via UTEC
Sourcing at the moment:
Cattman Fastcat
Cattman B-pipe
Let me know if you have any of these to sell, I'd like to get them installed prior to tuning.
Additionally installed: (Should keep everything held together pretty good)
ES Poly Motor Mounts
ES Poly Control Arm Bushings
ES Poly Subframe Bushings
ES Poly Shifter Bushings
New Tie Rods
New Ball Joints
Am I missing anything here? Can I yield higher power with anything else?
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SR will be assisting me with the remainder of the installs......thank goodness.
And to think, it all started with my throwout bearing going bad a couple months ago, and I was only suppose to replace that. Now i've gone and torn everything apart and having my way with her. Stupid VHT, on stupid track!
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Preech. I would love to yield that, and I think it's attainable. The 350z guys are doing it, and I don't see why I can't with the same block.
I'm actually going to add another couple main components, but I'm not going to disclose it at this time since it was just thought of. I'm hoping to get good results from it but I want to do it first before I make any solidified claims.
Thanks for the cams, they're gonna work nicely with my setup!
I'm actually going to add another couple main components, but I'm not going to disclose it at this time since it was just thought of. I'm hoping to get good results from it but I want to do it first before I make any solidified claims.
Thanks for the cams, they're gonna work nicely with my setup!
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Deckout , I recommend you use this program for tunning
http://mpsav.com/MPSUTECLogger/MPS_U...r_Download.htm
Im using this and its a great tool , it works with any W/B
http://mpsav.com/MPSUTECLogger/MPS_U...r_Download.htm
Im using this and its a great tool , it works with any W/B
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Deckout , I recommend you use this program for tunning
http://mpsav.com/MPSUTECLogger/MPS_U...r_Download.htm
Im using this and its a great tool , it works with any W/B
http://mpsav.com/MPSUTECLogger/MPS_U...r_Download.htm
Im using this and its a great tool , it works with any W/B
#10
Good luck , did you get the remote map selector as well ? I think that is the best part of the UTEC,
The MPS is really good to tune, they have a choice of W/Bs for datalogging.
As soon as I find a new tranny the manifold will make its way in the motor
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I'm currently looking into good deals for WB's at the moment. Just need to also decide which one I'm going to go with. I've played with the Ziextronics, and it's not bad. Want to look at other options as well.
Don't forget to bump that rev limiter with that new manifold.
#12
I cant wait to see what you make! It'll give me a good point of reference to aim for, as from what Im reading, it seems we're building an identical setup (minus the Utec, I'll be using an EU). My stuff should be done by Thanksgiving so we'll see.
BEST OF LUCK!!!
BEST OF LUCK!!!
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did you ever get pics of the UTEC wiring job??
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Thanks for the SSIM stuff Kev. I haven't made it by the office of my complex yet to pick it up. Every time I go after work I just miss them since they close at 6pm. I'll go at lunch today to pick it up.
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If you want the best W/B setup go with the TurboXS Tuner, it is the most compatible. I have used the Tech Edge as well as the LC-1 and LM-1 and like everyone else with the UTEC experienced lockups etc. You can pick up a used one for around $200 on either the 350Z or NASIOC forums.
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If you want the best W/B setup go with the TurboXS Tuner, it is the most compatible. I have used the Tech Edge as well as the LC-1 and LM-1 and like everyone else with the UTEC experienced lockups etc. You can pick up a used one for around $200 on either the 350Z or NASIOC forums.
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BTW the TurboXS Tuner is the only W/B that will display\log with the terminal software, UTI3 and MPS UTEC Logger will work with some of the others if you are interested in them. Check their sites to see which W/B's will work with them. I prefer UTI3 over the MPS UTEC Logger for ease of use and tuning
http://www.jeffsoftware.com/software.php?product=UTI
http://mpsav.com/MPSUTECLogger/MPS_U...r_Download.htm
Last edited by Jime; 09-17-2008 at 07:53 AM.
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BTW the TurboXS Tuner is the only W/B that will display\log with the terminal software, UTI3 and MPS UTEC Logger will work with some of the others if you are interested in them. Check their sites to see which W/B's will work with them. I prefer UTI3 over the MPS UTEC Logger for ease of use and tuning
http://www.jeffsoftware.com/software.php?product=UTI
http://mpsav.com/MPSUTECLogger/MPS_U...r_Download.htm
http://www.jeffsoftware.com/software.php?product=UTI
http://mpsav.com/MPSUTECLogger/MPS_U...r_Download.htm
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BTW the TurboXS Tuner is the only W/B that will display\log with the terminal software, UTI3 and MPS UTEC Logger will work with some of the others if you are interested in them. Check their sites to see which W/B's will work with them. I prefer UTI3 over the MPS UTEC Logger for ease of use and tuning
http://www.jeffsoftware.com/software.php?product=UTI
http://mpsav.com/MPSUTECLogger/MPS_U...r_Download.htm
http://www.jeffsoftware.com/software.php?product=UTI
http://mpsav.com/MPSUTECLogger/MPS_U...r_Download.htm
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The other widebands are great and perform well on their own, just not with the UTEC.
BTW regardless of which third party software you use, you still have to use the terminal program to make any changes to the UTEC so better get fluent with it.
Last edited by Jime; 09-17-2008 at 01:36 PM.
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Here are some pics. It's definately not plug-n-play, but it does work flawlessly. Sorry for the jumbled wires, I tied them the best I could but it was extended so it had to be like that. All in all, it's still hidden and pretty clean.
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P, any details on this?
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Maybe for those that are interested, they can send their UTEC up to SurraTT and have him extend the needed wires and perform the same labeling as he did with mine. Then all you would have to do when you get it back is soldier up the 15 or so wires to the ECU yourself.
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In order to make this work for us, you have to cut the male harnesses off the UTEC so you can soldier it to the ECM side of your factory harness, then from the side you cut the UTEC harness from, it would be soldiered to the "car side" of your factory harness.
If you actually look at the unit and work it out, it's easy to physically understand. I didn't get it at first until I had it in my hands.
This might help picture wise. I connected a few extra wires to be on the safe.
Thread, picture is from.
http://forums.maxima.org/other-sale-...-gen-ecus.html
Last edited by Deckdout2; 09-18-2008 at 06:49 AM.
#34
ohk im starting to get it now. so the male end that would go back into the ecu on the plug n play is used to go into the utec. thats where i was confused. now what is that other plug to the northeast of the utec used for? and which wires actually have to be cut out of all the ecu pinouts?
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ohk im starting to get it now. so the male end that would go back into the ecu on the plug n play is used to go into the utec. thats where i was confused. now what is that other plug to the northeast of the utec used for? and which wires actually have to be cut out of all the ecu pinouts?
This should help you. All you need is to get the 350z ECU pinouts diagram to match it up.
#36
Well I know I dont have a 5.5 , My install was much simple than the splicing..
http://www.6thgenmaxima.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5737
Anyways good luck deckout
http://www.6thgenmaxima.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5737
Anyways good luck deckout
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so... i will be getting my utec with this months 3rd check ftw! im gonna hook it up and take it to txs around the way and have it tuned. hoping for atleast 20+whp gain. seen a few Z owners gain 25+whp from a tune. i will be posting a pre and post dyno early next month..