It's official. Cammed DE-K in!

*TDotMax* · 07-30-2008, 04:38 AM

So if you didn't know I purchased DandyMax's cammed motor. I officially picked up my car today with the complete swap, Greddy EU, Innovative WB and Cattman Headers.

So we went out and did some datalogging and tunning. MAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!!!! It was fun, this car could pull. It was fun going to 7500rpm and it still wants to go and man does it get up there fast.

Again I couldn't thank DandyMax more as he did a great job on the swap and base tunning of the car. I recognize I won't get the 270whp he got out of it due to limitations (mainly damn auto tranny) but it's still amazing.

And man did I have fun on the way home. WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

*NmexMAX* · 07-30-2008, 07:27 AM

Let's get some dynos, data logs and track times posted.

Maybe even some vids. How is your cat-back set-up?

Are you going MAF-less like Dandy?

*TDotMax* · 07-30-2008, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by NmexMAX

Let's get some dynos, data logs and track times posted.

Maybe even some vids. How is your cat-back set-up?

Are you going MAF-less like Dandy?

Still trying to work out the a/f past 7200 as Dan and I spent a good part of last night trying to solve why the stock ECU is dumping so much fuel. I'll try to post the datalogs on the weekend if I get a chance. Once I get that fixed then I will try to book some dyno time. Unfortunately I am not as lucky as Dan to have good area's to due some street runs. Track times may have to wait until next year as I now a baby and things are always coming up.

I just have a Budget B-pipe with stock muffler. I'm going to keep my MAF in.

*NmexMAX* · 07-30-2008, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TDotMax

Still trying to work out the a/f past 7200 as Dan and I spent a good part of last night trying to solve why the stock ECU is dumping so much fuel. I'll try to post the datalogs on the weekend if I get a chance. Once I get that fixed then I will try to book some dyno time. Unfortunately I am not as lucky as Dan to have good area's to due some street runs. Track times may have to wait until next year as I now a baby and things are always coming up.

I just have a Budget B-pipe with stock muffler. I'm going to keep my MAF in.

Do you still have a cat under there?

Well, in any case, looks like a nice set-up and glad to see it being done on an auto.

I just hope people don't fail to see that your set-up will be quite different and people should not expect the same numbers, etc. Dandy had open exhaust, 5MT and a different tune, that is all very significant. I would like to see what that thing would put down with the stock muffler and stock airbox

*TDotMax* · 07-30-2008, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by NmexMAX

Do you still have a cat under there?

Well, in any case, looks like a nice set-up and glad to see it being done on an auto.

I just hope people don't fail to see that your set-up will be quite different and people should not expect the same numbers, etc. Dandy had open exhaust, 5MT and a different tune, that is all very significant. I would like to see what that thing would put down with the stock muffler and stock airbox :Wall:

It will be very different. I'm hoping though by next I can get a 5-speed swap done (just have to let the wife know my tranny died

)
On my intake I just have a filter at the end of the MAF (WAI setup) and I left the stock resonator in. The Cat is still there. May look into a test pipe in the future but I don't see that doing much.

MOHFpro90 · 07-30-2008, 08:53 AM

Definitely waiting for some more info! Would like to see what the auto lays down, as I would like to stay auto but I know the 5speed will put out more, just not sure how much.

*ajcool2* · 07-30-2008, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MOHFpro90

Definitely waiting for some more info! Would like to see what the auto lays down, as I would like to stay auto but I know the 5speed will put out more, just not sure how much.

+1

Good job getting everything up and running.

*NmexMAX* · 07-30-2008, 12:09 PM

4AT + 7500 RPM =

on the highway. But

on the initial take off.

It be like over 90 MPH at the top of 2nd, and be in a VERY sweet spot going into 3rd.

*The Wizard* · 07-30-2008, 01:22 PM

Good job guys.

Do you know if Dan had to do anything beyond the ordinary (ordinary being what he states in his EU writeup) to get past the fuel cut at 6500rpms considering you have a 2000 Max?

I wish I could redline at 7200rpm's (maybe even 7500) in my '99...

Dan is the Man.

MorpheusZero · 07-30-2008, 03:09 PM

Vids?

chillin014 · 07-30-2008, 05:52 PM

awesome. What is the advantage of going MAF-less?

streetzlegend · 07-30-2008, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NmexMAX

4AT + 7500 RPM =

on the highway. But

on the initial take off.

It be like over 90 MPH at the top of 2nd, and be in a VERY sweet spot going into 3rd.

omg 4at + 7500 rpm = SICKNESS!!! imagine that with suprastick letting the auto shift on its own at 7500

*DandyMax* · 07-30-2008, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NmexMAX

Let's get some dynos, data logs and track times posted.

Maybe even some vids.

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Originally Posted by MorpheusZero

Vids?

What, my track videos and the open cutout idling video etc aren't good enough for y'all?

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Originally Posted by TDotMax

Still trying to work out the a/f past 7200 as Dan and I spent a good part of last night trying to solve why the stock ECU is dumping so much fuel.

The issue I had on the top end past 7300 was not so much fuel related.. the problem was the ign timing jumping all over the place.. ran out of time to attack that area further (as you know) but the car does seem to go to just about 7300 pretty well until all the funkyness happens...

Actually now that I'm thinking about it, remember that crank POS code that popped up? I'm wondering if maybe your flex plate/timing ring/torque converter assembly isn't true enough or balanced well enough at that rpm.. maybe the crank signal starts to get wonky and hence the ign timing too... hmmm... I've never taken an auto up that high before so I don't have any comparison but I know the manuals don't experience that of course. This will require more playing with it to see what's actually happening post 7300...

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Originally Posted by ajcool2

+1

Good job getting everything up and running.

His car threw quite a few challenges at me including a horridly stuck axle/hub so at times I was cursing lol but in the end it was all back together. (Darn Montreal cars eh Kev? lol)

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Originally Posted by The Wizard

Good job guys.

Do you know if Dan had to do anything beyond the ordinary (ordinary being what he states in his EU writeup) to get past the fuel cut at 6500rpms considering you have a 2000 Max?

James I didn't have to do anything different, just add fuel. Send me your EM2 file and I'll take a look, and also a log of you bouncing the rev limiter.

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Originally Posted by chillin014

awesome. What is the advantage of going MAF-less?

Almost no intake restriction, ease of fabrication for custom intakes/diff TB's etc, can be useful to run a speed-density tune on a boosted car etc. But not necessary for most cars, the downside is a lot of tuning time to do it well. N/A it's probably not what most people will choose, consider the big MAF options around also...

*DandyMax* · 07-30-2008, 08:47 PM

Just FYI, as for key differences in the mods between his car and mine they are as follows:

VIAS Power valve: mine was removed, his is not
TB: mine was a Pathy, his is 5th gen
Intake: mine was MAF-less and custom fabbed, his is WAI.. basically MAF, resonator, and filter
Tranny: I was 5MT, he is 4AT
Exhaust: I had full Cattman all the way, and an exhaust cutout before the cat. He has Catttman headers, Budget B-pipe and stock muffler, not sure what make of cat he has (but it is there) and no cutout

There are a few other differences that would contribute to whp levels being different and of course the 1/4 mile will only introduce more variables and differences... but the engine internally is the same - same valvetrain, VQ35 oil pump with oil pressure cutoff switch etc

chillin014 · 07-30-2008, 09:14 PM

thanks for the information. I'm going to PM you with a few questions so I dont jack this thread.

*TDotMax* · 07-30-2008, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DandyMax

The issue I had on the top end past 7300 was not so much fuel related.. the problem was the ign timing jumping all over the place.. ran out of time to attack that area further (as you know) but the car does seem to go to just about 7300 pretty well until all the funkyness happens...

Actually now that I'm thinking about it, remember that crank POS code that popped up? I'm wondering if maybe your flex plate/timing ring/torque converter assembly isn't true enough or balanced well enough at that rpm.. maybe the crank signal starts to get wonky and hence the ign timing too... hmmm... I've never taken an auto up that high before so I don't have any comparison but I know the manuals don't experience that of course. This will require more playing with it to see what's actually happening post 7300...

His car threw quite a few challenges at me including a horridly stuck axle/hub so at times I was cursing lol but in the end it was all back together. (Darn Montreal cars eh Kev? lol)

I got no problem with 7300 right now lol. I went out for a quick run tonight and think I hurt my neck when I stomped on it in second. The bogging was still there around the 7500 area but I wasn't logging at the time.

From now on I will research where a car is from before buying lol.

*DandyMax* · 07-30-2008, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TDotMax

I got no problem with 7300 right now lol. I went out for a quick run tonight and think I hurt my neck when I stomped on it in second. The bogging was still there around the 7500 area but I wasn't logging at the time.

From now on I will research where a car is from before buying lol.

lol. Well if it was truly the 7500 area, that's the new fuel cut at 7450 or so... but if it was sooner than that but above 7200-7300 then it might be what I mentioned above...

PS has the wife driven it yet.. what does she think of the new power?

*95 maxima se* · 07-30-2008, 10:32 PM

awesome but when are we gonna see ur 3.5

?

*TDotMax* · 07-31-2008, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DandyMax

lol. Well if it was truly the 7500 area, that's the new fuel cut at 7450 or so... but if it was sooner than that but above 7200-7300 then it might be what I mentioned above...

PS has the wife driven it yet.. what does she think of the new power?

Thats true. I think I threw another cam position code (I think that's what it was before) but you said not to worry too much about it. Might just become a nuissance resetting it all the time.

Wife hasn't driven it yet but she did come with me yesterday and she loved it especially the sound of the motor once VIAS kicks in.

*DandyMax* · 07-31-2008, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 95 maxima se

awesome but when are we gonna see ur 3.5

?

Are you asking me?

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Originally Posted by TDotMax

Thats true. I think I threw another cam position code (I think that's what it was before) but you said not to worry too much about it. Might just become a nuissance resetting it all the time.