pathfinder intake manifold...will it fit?
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Something is definitly up, today I started noticing a noticable hesitation around 2500rpm's in 2nd gear just driving normal, and that's not right. After noticing that I was testing and could also repeat a stutter/paue/hesitation around 3k in higher gears if I hit the gas just right, not normal for sure (I know).
I also have a weird exhaust sound coming from upfront, like very weird, since I put maybe 50 miles on the car with a broken camshaft back when the 3.5 was in it I'm going to check the cat and get rid of the rest of the exhaust. But I have a sneaking suspicion it is related to the NGK GP's that I put in at the same time as this swap so I am swapping those out for coppers even sooner.
I did do some very very sketchy "fuzzy ricer math" in my head recently though and possibly realized maybe, against everything I see and know about this manifold, maybe it really does just suck. My fuzzy ricer math went something like this, still bummed I couldn't find a pathy dyno that went higher than 4200rpm's, lol. Anyways:
Pathy 3.5 is rated at 240 crank, assuming a 20% drivetrain loss figure, that's 192 whp. Even if you only subtract a conservative 40hp for the fact that it is a vtc'less 3.0l, that puts it around 150..... I know it's fuzzy ricer math, but I can't get any less conservative with those figures and make the number any higher right? Maybe 177tq @ 3k is about the best this thing will do.
FYI, changed intake piping, swapped mafs for fun while I was at it, and removed powervalve, still not there like it was before the swap.
I also have a weird exhaust sound coming from upfront, like very weird, since I put maybe 50 miles on the car with a broken camshaft back when the 3.5 was in it I'm going to check the cat and get rid of the rest of the exhaust. But I have a sneaking suspicion it is related to the NGK GP's that I put in at the same time as this swap so I am swapping those out for coppers even sooner.
I did do some very very sketchy "fuzzy ricer math" in my head recently though and possibly realized maybe, against everything I see and know about this manifold, maybe it really does just suck. My fuzzy ricer math went something like this, still bummed I couldn't find a pathy dyno that went higher than 4200rpm's, lol. Anyways:
Pathy 3.5 is rated at 240 crank, assuming a 20% drivetrain loss figure, that's 192 whp. Even if you only subtract a conservative 40hp for the fact that it is a vtc'less 3.0l, that puts it around 150..... I know it's fuzzy ricer math, but I can't get any less conservative with those figures and make the number any higher right? Maybe 177tq @ 3k is about the best this thing will do.
FYI, changed intake piping, swapped mafs for fun while I was at it, and removed powervalve, still not there like it was before the swap.
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One more thing, I don't look how bumpy my graph looks either, looks rough for 5 smoothing to me, also can't help but notice the inconsistency on the long runner dyno's, I'd expect that inconsistency on a fmu'd boosted car but not a mostly stock 3.0
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I did a motor on a 01 Pathfinder and I hooked up the lines for the powervalve backwards, and it felt about the same as yours. It pulled hard off the line to about ~3500rpm and then just died and died even harder at around 5500+
Swapped the lines and it felt much much better, but still they feel like they lack top end still. I figured it was just the design of the pathfinder. I dont think many people in Pathfinders spend their time above 4500rpm.
I know air will take the path of least resistance but maybe a lot of the air is not going into the "short path" but still being drawn from the long runners.
Still thats a super low dyno, their must be something wrong, I just cant see anything flowing worse than the USIM. That thing is pretty much the benchmark for bad lol.
Props for trying this out and I wish you the best of luck hopefully you figure out the issue. Would be nice to see a 175+ whp dyno
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My VLSD hates all of this, my butt dyno is more perceptable to changes by doing a flat foot 1-2 shift and seeing how long the tires spin afterwards, as of right now it's nothing more than a chirp, was definitly more with the USIM
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No word yet, and I don't know when I'll be able to play with it again (Not that anyone cares, lol). But I just wanted to say that I happened to find the perfect throttle cable. Of all vehicles I was removing the plenums to replace the starter on my dad's 2000 V8 2wd Tundra and I was like..... wait a second! I checked it out pretty good, the length is perfect, and it is going to drop right in for the most part, I think whoever makes throttle cables for Nissan makes them for Toyota also.
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