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Old 07-16-2006, 07:01 PM
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Need Help On Dek Swap Im Stuck!!!!

Anyone have a diagram or something of how all the egr and fuel lines work? and all the other hoses. That is pretty much all I have to do after I rewire the injectors. oh and what did yall do about the part of the wiring harness that only has the back 3 injectors and the oil pan connector on it? did you use that off of your de?
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Old 07-16-2006, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by matts95max
Anyone have a diagram or something of how all the egr and fuel lines work? and all the other hoses. That is pretty much all I have to do after I rewire the injectors.
Theres good pics of it in the FSM.

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oh and what did yall do about the part of the wiring harness that only has the back 3 injectors and the oil pan connector on it? did you use that off of your de?
Yea. Use the one off your DE. It goes to the rear of the motor, down the back.

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Old 07-16-2006, 07:11 PM
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where is the fsm to look at?
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Can't you use the DE-K rear harness, and not have to rewire the rear 3 injectors? All of the other plugs should be the same as the DE?
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Old 07-16-2006, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Nismo3112
Can't you use the DE-K rear harness, and not have to rewire the rear 3 injectors? All of the other plugs should be the same as the DE?
I dont think the DEK harness has the same clip as the DE. That main large silver harness on the top section.

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Old 07-16-2006, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by matty
I dont think the DEK harness has the same clip as the DE. That main large silver harness on the top section.

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+1. The clip that connects it to the main engine harness is different.
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Originally Posted by matts95max
where is the fsm to look at?
www.phatg20.net

http://www.phatg20.net/modules.php?n...ownload&cid=73
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Old 07-17-2006, 05:17 AM
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alright thanks im going at it again today!
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Old 07-17-2006, 04:58 PM
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ok I tried to start in, but no start. heres a list of probs that I dont know how to fix

1. There was no fuel in the fuel lines going to fuel rail from filter
2. my tps on the 4th gen only has one connector the 5th gen has 2 and on my de harness I only have 1 connector to plug in, can I used the tps on my 4th gen tb?
3. Not sure how to hook up all rubber hoses? egr as well? and there are metal hoses im not sure where to hook up.
4. There is a black thing like on the back of the engine bay behind the abs with hoses not hooked up to anything..
5. I made a plate for the bottom of the tb to block the iacv but what do I do with that connector?

Will all that cause it not to start?
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Old 07-17-2006, 05:11 PM
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Did you swap over the crank, cam sensors? That is needed the DEK's sends out a different singal than the DE does. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. So if you still have the DEK crank and cam sensor in, that also could cause the car not to start.
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Old 07-17-2006, 05:34 PM
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I swapped the sensor that plugs in where the bell housing and block meet, but the cam sensor I didnt switch.
Im a little worried about y im not getting fuel in the fuel lines tho
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You sure you have them all hooked up properly going the right way ?? The line from the filter, to the front of the fuel rail, then around the fuel rail to the Fuel pressure reg, then off to the tank return line. Does the FPR have vaccum ??

You can use your 4th gen TPS.
I think the upper cam sensor is different but the crank ref on the bottom by the main crank, I think is the same.
All your grounds hooked up properly ??

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Old 07-17-2006, 05:56 PM
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where is the fpr? I ran the fuel line from the back fuel rail to the other rubber hose to the left of the fuel filter assuming that was the return..but where is the fpr?

im grounded on the valve cover
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Originally Posted by matts95max
where is the fpr? I ran the fuel line from the back fuel rail to the other rubber hose to the left of the fuel filter assuming that was the return..but where is the fpr?

im grounded on the valve cover
Did you hear the fuel pump prime?
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Old 07-17-2006, 07:36 PM
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Does the fuel pump prime? if not change your ground location.
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Originally Posted by gtr_rider
Does the fuel pump prime? if not change your ground location.
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Old 07-18-2006, 04:31 AM
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didnt hear the fuel pump..wouldnt I be hearing the filter? since the pump is in the tank? ill work on changing ground today
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Why don't you just ground it to the top of the timing cover? That's what those two bolts are for. I only used one on the DE-K swap i did though and it worked fine.
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Old 07-18-2006, 07:09 AM
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ok i will have to extend the ground wires to reach, but ill do it when i get off. and when I turn the key over all I hear is the starter, am I going to hear that even if I have a bad ground?
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Old 07-18-2006, 07:41 AM
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When you turn the key to ACC you should hear the fuel pump "Prime"...its not going to be coming from the fuel filter locationg.....it will be a buzzing from the backseat that should last about 5-12 seconds.
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ok well yday when I turned the key I didnt notice anything and I disconnected the fuel line from the fuel filter to the fuel rail and it was bone dry
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Old 07-18-2006, 10:02 AM
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did you accidently bend the fuel rail return pipe, because I did that and noticed before I went ahead and started the car.
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Old 07-18-2006, 10:07 AM
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if the car is starved for fuel you should still hear movement, and the car trying to crank. Fuel isnt the only problem. Did you test the crank/cam sensors to make sure they are in proper working order?
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Old 07-18-2006, 10:32 AM
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havent checked the rail return line, but im not getting fuel from the filter, ill check it when I get home. and I used my crank sensor from my working motor and left the cam sensor that came with the dek so I have not checked them. Could a faulty ground cause the fp not to prime?
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Old 07-18-2006, 11:22 AM
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and the iacv on the 4th gen has that brown plug and the purple and pink one on it right? what do I do with those purple and pink connectors on the de harness with the dek?
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Old 07-18-2006, 06:26 PM
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I changed my ground and then I got fuel. The car starts not but doesnt stay on. It just cranks and the rpms go up around 2 and then fall down to zero and the car shuts off...any ideas?
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Old 07-18-2006, 06:28 PM
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glad she's starting up now.

where did you put the new ground?
all vacuum lines hook up properly?


have you tried feathering the throttle to keep the car running?
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Old 07-19-2006, 04:11 AM
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ran wire to ground on battery and saw I was getting fuel so that solved the fuel problem then I tried to start her her up and she didnt crank the first time but did the second. Now she just wont stay on.

Vaccum lines..not all. The vaccum hose on front valve cover for the stock air intake system isnt hooked up. the coolant line for the tb needs to be plugged, the egr isnt hooked up all the way. on the back left part of the 00vi a nipple piece or somethin broke off that I guess was used for vaccum so i taped that off.

Im using a plate to block off iacv on the bottom of the tb and none of the connectors for iacv are plugged in. Im using 4th gen tps on 5th gen tb

Yes I tried holding thottle open..seems like it dies faster that way..
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Old 07-19-2006, 07:18 AM
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When I had my MAF unplugged it would do that, except for dying on its own. It seemed like I was flooding the engine because I wasn't reading any intake air.
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I have my maf plugged in..
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Is your TPS adjusted to spec? When it is running do you notice any air leaks(cant miss them).
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yeah I got the tps adjusted, and finally got the car to stay on buy keeping throttle open, I do hear leaks. going to work on them when I get off work. I need a little help figuring out egr hoses tho to get it hooked up right
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For the time being, adjust the TB screw to hold the throttle open slightly so that you can manage your air leaks.
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