MorpheusZero

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How will the stock 4th gen clutch hold up to the 00vi? I was forced to abuse it less than 300 miles after it was put in (45degree incline, VERY confined space, had to back up) and it won't even come close to chirping second, it's pretty mushy/glazed. I don't powershift. Will my clutch be roasted by the added toark of an 00vi?

Kevlo911

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No it won't. 00vi doesn't add more power than the stock clutch can handle.

MorpheusZero

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Well a clutch handles torque, not power.... but thanks, it opens some options to me... a little.

steven88

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If you add a large amount of hp...then you have to upgrade the clutch system...when I mean large amount, probably 70+whp

MorpheusZero

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....you're missing the point.

A clutch will hold a certain amount of torque. Not power. If you add 70whp but somehow keep the peak torque the same, the clutch will hold it no problem.

...Anyway.

Kevlo911

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Umm okay

00vi doesnt add that much more TQ.. Do some research, you have alot to learn.

MorpheusZero

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It doesn't add all that much, but the 5th gen clutch isn't stronger for nothing. Since my 4th gen is already worn down I was unsure.

And I'm not the one being corrected, bud.

95BLKMAX

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Well the 5th gen clutch isnt stronger much for the fact that the DEK makes that much more ubber TORQUE than the DE, but for the fact that it has to move the weight of a heavier car on the transmission side. If you have a heavier car, chances are, you will need a stronger clutch to have the same longevity as a clutch on a lighter car (5th gen vs 4th gen). Someone correct me if Im wrong on this..

SDot82

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Well with out power you cannot have torque so like kevlo said do some research.

eng92

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Actually you have it backwards. You can have a "gazillion" ft-lbs of torque at 0 rpm and that equals 0 hp. To have power, useful work needs to be performed (ie. you need X ft-lbs of torque at Y rpm where X,Y cannot be 0).

MorpheusZero

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right. Thanks for the education.

Just so you know (here's a basic physics lesson), torque is the actual rotational force that the engine produces. Power is sourced from torque and depends on it--power = torque * rotational speed.

MorpheusZero

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Good point. I think it's probably a combination of the two.

SDot82

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I keep forgetting that torque is a force applied at the moment of an object. But how can you have a lot of torque at 0 rpms if torques is a force on an object causing it to rotate (incase of a car rpms)?

eng92

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The 0 rpm case does not really have any application in terms of cars. It was just meant to show that you can have applied torque without developing any power.

MorpheusZero

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Imagine an ox pushing a 100 foot pole hooked up to a vertical rod coming out of the ground. The ox can probably deliver about 500lbs of force (about 10000N) to the end of the pole, making the amount of torque around the pole about 50000ftlbs. But it takes him about 5 minutes to fully walk around the pole. So that would be 50K ftlbs @ .2rpm. Say if the pole wouldn't budge, wouldn't turn at ALL even from 50K ftlbs of torque. So the torque is still being applied at 0rpm. It's like you pushing on the wall, you're still delivering xxlbs of force but the wall's not going anywhere--xxlbs @ 0mph.

But no, in internal combustion engines torque at 0rpm will be irrelevant and nonexistant. With elecrtic motors, however, it's a different story...