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Old 06-30-2005, 07:55 AM
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mevi or 00vi? Which one is better?I don't know to much about either of these intake systems. could anyone give me any info. or point me in the right direction. Where would I be able to get either of these intakes and which is more recomended. thank you

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research man research its called google use ittttt
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both are not cheap, though mevi is more plug and play. 00vi takes some decent work, including some drilling. Reportedly, 00vi offers better gains throughout the RPM range, without the loss in low end power from the mevi. Check the all motor forum for dyno's and writeups.
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You should more ... As teh current market stands, the 00vi is better and more easily available, but not as easy as the MEVI to install ...

All motor forums > you.

That's about it Large William.
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00VI...


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If your even thinking about doing either one then you know your gonna have to spend some money. And if your gonna do either one your gonna have to ask a bunch of questions about installing it. So just go ahead and donate the $20 now to get the search function. That way you don't have to waste your time starting threads like this and hoping to get a good anwser. You can just read the 100's of threads on this topic and get the best information available. Those who really know this topic inside and out are not gonna post about it again for the 20th time. The "wise men" have already given you all the information you need, you just need to be willing to get it.....ie; donate.
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Old 06-30-2005, 12:33 PM
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Trust the money is not an option. I Just need to know were to get one. i'll donate sometime.
 
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Ok big baller try www.pinnaclenissan.com for the brand new part money bags, or like the rest of us cheap people, www.car-part.com for the 00vi, GL finding a MEVI ...
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There are still a few new MEVI's for sale at CourtesyParts.com. However that's just the main stuff you need. It doesn't include everything, and you'll need to find out on your own what else is needed.
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waht esle would u need to complete that kit?
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Originally Posted by Tatanko
There are still a few new MEVI's for sale at CourtesyParts.com. However that's just the main stuff you need. It doesn't include everything, and you'll need to find out on your own what else is needed.
Read the stickys, but in a nutshell RPM switch, vacuum canister, solenoid.
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Originally Posted by suicidalspd99
Trust the money is not an option. I Just need to know were to get one. i'll donate sometime.
I found this comment to be hilariously insipid.
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I found this comment to be hilariously insipid.
He must want to learn the hard way.
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Old 06-30-2005, 06:34 PM
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Thank you Tatanko. I will be contacting them about purchasing it. I feel it is the next step, not wanting to boost my maxima. You know not for nothing, but I don't need the lil comments from members. I just wanted lil help. Iam not trying to lokk LIke the rich kid. It is just i have been saving for my next big mode and last week i decided on this. But it is not a subject i know much about. The stickys honestly does not give to much info. At least not what I'm looking for. Thnks for the help, and no thanks for the stupid comments. peace
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Originally Posted by suicidalspd99
Thank you Tatanko. I will be contacting them about purchasing it. I feel it is the next step, not wanting to boost my maxima. You know not for nothing, but I don't need the lil comments from members. I just wanted lil help. Iam not trying to lokk LIke the rich kid. It is just i have been saving for my next big mode and last week i decided on this. But it is not a subject i know much about. The stickys honestly does not give to much info. At least not what I'm looking for. Thnks for the help, and no thanks for the stupid comments. peace
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00vi > MEVI
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00VI does everything the MEVI does and does it better. Just like getting a new girlfriend.
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Originally Posted by JClaw
00VI does everything the MEVI does and does it better. Just like getting a new girlfriend.
lmfa
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Originally Posted by suicidalspd99
Trust the money is not an option. I Just need to know were to get one. i'll donate sometime.

"the money is not an option"...WTF does that mean???? Do you mean the money is not a problem?

The point I want to make here is that it is retarded to not spend $20 right now this very second to become a donating member and have access to the search function. Then you have everything you will ever need to know about the 00VI and MEVI. Trust me, back in the day we used to have 5 page techinical threads about these two manifolds. Just about everything has been said that could be about them. Install instuctions, part lists, reviews, dyno's, track times on the MEVI and 00VI are all here....you just have to search for them.

In situations like this I will not be helpful. You say the money is not an issue, and yet don't donate but expect to be given the information you want.
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My search is down so you might as well donate

We have the wrong tuning with the MEVI in the US. The JDM Cefiro makes 210hp at 6400 RPM--VI stock. The Euro Cefiro has 193hp at 6400RPM. The Middle Eastern max has NO CATS--meaning stock "ypipe"--has 225hp at 6400RPM. If we used those ECU's, I bet we would not lose as much low end and mid range.
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
If we used those ECU's, I bet we would not lose as much low end and mid range.
Interesting statement. I'm still waiting for the fella from NZ to dyno so we could get an idea of that ECU. I also like the 6400 peak ...
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Old 07-02-2005, 01:41 PM
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I have done quite a bit of research and had alot of help from a member here on the .org. I have decide to go with the Mevi due to the fact that the 00vi only makes maybe 3-5 more whp. But yet all that huge modification has to go into the 00vi. Why would You really want to cut up your car like that. I have found 5 different place that I can get MEVI. Yes you do have to get the add ons. But they are around. I also will be doing the computer and raising the redline. It seems they go hand and hand. thanks to everyone for the help. but don't stop posting. everyone can stand to learn more. Peace and Happy 4th

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00VI is better than the MEVI as you do not experience the same low and midrange loss that the MEVI suffers from.
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Why do people only look at peak gain
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
Why do people only look at peak gain
I ask that all the time. Quite honestly, I like low-end torque and midrange power. I like a smooth powerband, not one that requires me to rev to get all the power. That's why I bought a Max in the first place
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how much low end torque loss are we talking about here with the mevi?
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My search is down so you might as well donate

We have the wrong tuning with the MEVI in the US. The JDM Cefiro makes 210hp at 6400 RPM--VI stock. The Euro Cefiro has 193hp at 6400RPM. The Middle Eastern max has NO CATS--meaning stock "ypipe"--has 225hp at 6400RPM. If we used those ECU's, I bet we would not lose as much low end and mid range.


I've been preaching this for a while now that my Cefiro with JDM ecu will do better than a US maxima with a MEVI bolted on... not in a position to dyno yet .. but will do within the next coupla months to get some solid figures.

If theres lowend loss I don't reckon I'm seeing any, I boom off the line as much as auto can
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how much harder is the 00vi install. How long will the car be down? sorry ive been searching but havent found much
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Originally Posted by killerVQ30DE


I've been preaching this for a while now that my Cefiro with JDM ecu will do better than a US maxima with a MEVI bolted on... not in a position to dyno yet .. but will do within the next coupla months to get some solid figures.

If theres lowend loss I don't reckon I'm seeing any, I boom off the line as much as auto can

Well you can preach all you want but unless you give evidence of a before and after dyno with the ecu's then it doesn't mean anything to anyone.
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ive heard that there has been some problems with the 00VI.
Do a search under the word "VIAS" (another name for the 00VI) in the 5th Gen Forum and you'll find a disturbing number of threads about how it fails internally due to pi$$-poor engineering. The problem is that Nissan hasn't acknowledged this as a problem (i.e., tough to make a warranty claim stick if you have a 5th gen Max, and forget about it if you've put a 00VI onto a 4th gen), and there's no way of telling if one of those 00VI manifolds is good or not if it's on the car. What people are experiencing is noticable drop off in performance, sometimes in the upper RPM range (if the power valve fails in the closed position) or in the low-mid range RPM band if the power valve fails in the open position. The fix for the problem (after you've completely removed and disassembled the 00VI) involves a rather inelegant use of JB Weld!
On the other hand, the only problem I'm aware of with the MEVI is the butterfly screws coming out and dropping into the combustion chanber, but this can be prevented by making sure they're LocTited before installation.
Good Luck.
This was ina PM from another orger. Is this true about the 00vi?
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Yes the VIAS is prone to failure after many open/close cycles but it's easy enough to fix using JB Weld. That by itself is not a good enough reason to not do the VI...
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Does anyone know what this switch is for?

"Relay that activates MAP switch. Can you tell which it is? (I don't have ABS)"

Idk what the MAP is either?


Nissan MAP switch

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Look at the dyno between the mevi and 00VI, tell me you want a MEVI over a VI. Need an ECU to gain back your low and mid range, My peak tq came within the first 3000 rpm, thats what I like. The VI has a few customizations, but only one if you purchase the adapter plates from someone off the org. Other than that, you have to grind down the 3rd and 5th coil mounts. Figuring out the vacuum lines and fuel lines is the hardest part of the installation. Easily could be done in one day
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Originally Posted by eckohb
Look at the dyno between the mevi and 00VI, tell me you want a MEVI over a VI. Need an ECU to gain back your low and mid range, My peak tq came within the first 3000 rpm, thats what I like. The VI has a few customizations, but only one if you purchase the adapter plates from someone off the org. Other than that, you have to grind down the 3rd and 5th coil mounts. Figuring out the vacuum lines and fuel lines is the hardest part of the installation. Easily could be done in one day
im really not prepared to gring down coil mounts for ~10tq. Ill buy the ecu and i have a ypipe. ill be set. Its nothing against you but i just dont want to grind down such an important piece of the car. The the MEVI looks cooler anyways
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Grinding them down isn't that big of deal. And you shouldn't worry about it.

Whereas getting the ECU is mandatory to gain your OLD low end back .. where it should've stayed.

If I didn't already have my MEVI, I would've done the 00VI. I need a transmission first though
But I was one of the 1st in the nation to have the VI'd 4th gen ... ...
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Originally Posted by sean05
im really not prepared to gring down coil mounts for ~10tq. Ill buy the ecu and i have a ypipe. ill be set. Its nothing against you but i just dont want to grind down such an important piece of the car. The the MEVI looks cooler anyways
Gotcha covered on this one. Use the 00/01 rear valve cover. lol See, problem solved! And do u know what 10wtq would do for acceleration?
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Originally Posted by MaxesRule
Gotcha covered on this one. Use the 00/01 rear valve cover. lol See, problem solved! And do u know what 10wtq would do for acceleration?
how about you drive up here and let me drive your car so i can see what it does
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That wouldn't be a problem if I had 1!
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Originally Posted by MaxesRule
That wouldn't be a problem if I had 1!
haha. Im just going with the mevi bc ive rode in a car with one. BUt does anyone know what those switchs are? i dont want to start a new thread.
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Where did you get that pic from, and what are you interested in? I have MEVI, and I don;t have anything switched like that under my hood.

The lower pic looks like a solenoid.

I'm using the Dawes devices solenoid, and the NAPA vac can and Summit RPM switch ... I love doing 90+mph in second (auto)
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