Tein rear upper mount for A32

*JSutter* · 05-29-2008, 07:45 PM

These are similar to Motivational Engineering, Ben's Suspension, etc. these mounts aid in the limited wheel travel we suffer from. These have pillow balls installed, something the others didnt have. These also look as if they will hold the spring better with the machined lip. I ran ME mounts and Bens mounts, both slipped under normal use.

Thread I found them on from SR20forum:

http://www.sr20forum.com/members-rid...ut-guam-4.html
What: Tein Rear Pillow Ball Upper Mount

Part #: PRN27-3IS900

Chassis: B14 Sentra / 200SX (Originally for JN15-Rr)

Price: $149.63 + Shipping

Where: Your Newest SR20Forum Supporting Vendor: The Nismo Shop . com

**mtrai760** · 05-30-2008, 08:40 AM

Awsome find!!!

**Kevlo911** · 06-02-2008, 01:56 PM

I wonder if these will work
http://cgi.ebay.com/Nissan-Maxima-Ce...QQcmdZViewItem

*mowgli29* · 06-22-2008, 04:42 PM

so how much travel could one gain with these rear mounts? More or less than Bens mounts? Anyone actually tried them out yet?

MorpheusZero · 06-22-2008, 05:26 PM

After trying out the third gen reds I am a little reserved

But this could be interesting.

*mowgli29* · 06-24-2008, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevlo911

I wonder if these will work
http://cgi.ebay.com/Nissan-Maxima-Ce...QQcmdZViewItem

I'm currently wondering the same thing...they look pretty similar to the Teins, and I'm having no luck finding ben's or ME mounts for less than $110.

IMO, those and the Teins sort of look like they wouldn't offer much travel though. Ben's were pretty much a flat plate, allowing the strut piston to be raised to the same level as the spring....these appear that the strut piston would still be below the spring quite a bit, but who knows, maybe they are a little higher than stock.

I'm tempted to make my own rear mounts....they wouldn't be as pretty as the ME or Ben's (no powdercoating) but they'd work. Can anyone give me some measurements? (mount diameter and hole diameter?)

What is the reason nobody has made Front mounts that offer more travel? I'm assuming it can't be done, or at least easily done, otherwise someone would have done it. (Wait, didn't stillen make camber plates? Can't someone make those, but just mounts instead of camber plates?!)

While we're at it, would these work? A31 camber plates on an A32?

*mowgli29* · 06-24-2008, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MorpheusZero

After trying out the third gen reds I am a little reserved

But this could be interesting.

lol, those didn't turn out so well, eh?

Let's hope these ideas don't result in another catastrophe...

MorpheusZero · 06-25-2008, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mowgli29

While we're at it, would these work? A31 camber plates on an A32?

Well keep in mind A31s were RWD with an RB20/25... but obviously they still had struts up front so there is a chance that it might work.

I will be very interested in both of these if they work to say the least.

Note: apparently if it's installed on a shock with spring set up it will caused rattling...

Update: according to the wikipedia page the A31 and S13 share their front suspension, so these should also work on S13s and vice versa. I think we're kinda screwed, although it would be cool if all the S13 camber plates worked on A32s.

**Kevlo911** · 06-25-2008, 04:43 PM

Bens mounts didn't hold up to well... I will have pics later.
The strut rod was pushing against the hole in the middle of the so hard, it made its own groove in the plate and it looks to have put a small dent in the rod of the strut. I put the stock mounts on for now.

*mowgli29* · 06-26-2008, 08:22 AM

JSutter, have you ever tried/seen the MEP mounts? I think those were made for the P11s but I've been on so many other forums lately, I'm going

Anyway, those looked very similar to ME and Bens, but the weren't just flat. They actually had tabs to hold the springs in place. There is currently a GB going on at G20.net for FRONT mounts which are very similar to MEP, but made by someone else. It seems that the p11/p10 (especially) guys have decided it's not that beneficial to do the rear mounts, so nobody makes those anymore

Is there any chance in hell that their front mounts would work for us?

EDIT: here are the MEP mounts I was talking about: link.
and here's the current GB, with links to previous GB's: link.

*98SEBlackMax* · 06-28-2008, 12:11 PM

I got in contact with the guy who is selling the strut mounts on G20.net (EPSentra). I had asked about P11 rear mounts and he told me there was no need for them. Then I had mentioned that it was for a Maxima and he seemed interested in making a set for me to try out. I sent him a full front and rear mount setup a couple months back and he hasn't said much about it. He is probally busy making the G20 mounts and doesn't have time to work on these. Anyways im going to PM him again today and see if I can get an update.

DMSentra · 06-28-2008, 02:31 PM

Hi all. EPSentra here, Loren in real life. I'm making the current line of G20 mounts on the G.net forum. I don't have any pictures of the upper mounts in the current group buy there but will remedy that shortly and post some pics for you peoples.
I admit I have dropped the ball on these Joe, thanks for the reminder. The Sentra build has taken a bunch of time and concentration and I just plain slacked on the rest.
The G20 mounts are a coil-over shock design as those cars use a multi-link style front suspension, with a mini upper control arm. As the rear on the Maxima is a strut, I'll have to change the design a bit to ensure they will handle the different forces. But, that's here nor there. No problem.
It would be great to have some idea of interest and numbers of units that may be needed. Refer to Joe's post above for a link to my group buy on G.net and info/pics. Keep in mind the pictures posted there are from the two previous group buys and batches. The current line is more refined, 3/16" material instead of 1/4", and has longer "ears" to further engage and locate the springs. There were no reported instances of spring seat control problems, but I didn't like the way they were so I fixed it.

Anyway, so glad to stop in here and say HI everyone. Maybe we can get something going here, and do some drops, in comfort!

*JSutter* · 06-28-2008, 08:50 PM

It would be a huge task to make ones for the front. The best option is to use a Ground Control caster camber plate design which places the mount on top of the strut tower. The Sentra crowd uses them and swear by them. It may be possible to modify a Stillen camber plate to sit on top in a similar fashion. I have Stillen camber plates, custom shortened Konis (CSK), & Ground control coilovers with plenty of travel, even dropped around 2". It makes more since to run CSK's then waste hours trying to make a new upper mount. Konis are the way to go.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mowgli29

JSutter, have you ever tried/seen the MEP mounts? I think those were made for the P11s but I've been on so many other forums lately, I'm going

Anyway, those looked very similar to ME and Bens, but the weren't just flat. They actually had tabs to hold the springs in place. There is currently a GB going on at G20.net for FRONT mounts which are very similar to MEP, but made by someone else. It seems that the p11/p10 (especially) guys have decided it's not that beneficial to do the rear mounts, so nobody makes those anymore

Is there any chance in hell that their front mounts would work for us?

EDIT: here are the MEP mounts I was talking about: link.
and here's the current GB, with links to previous GB's: link.

Yes, I am familiar with MEP mounts. The rears will fit an A32, B14, & P11. I like that design the most as the fingers should help hold the rubber seat. Id like to see the fingers a bit longer, and/or more of them however. The new ones look worth it, thicker material is nice and no welds could make for a stronger piece.

Fronts are the same bolt pattern but the P10/P11 have a crazy front suspension and those mounts will not work with our McPherson setup. Their shock/spring combo doesnt turn like ours.

DMSentra · 07-29-2008, 08:53 PM

Well Joe, I think the fact that nobody has responded in any mass to this thread basically since the day I posted tells me I probably shouldn't be thinking about making parts for the Max's. Like I stated before, if there was a real interest I'd be into developing some mounts(front and/or rear) but it sure seems like a dead horse.

Hexon · 07-29-2008, 09:19 PM

The Suspension thread is usually dead anyways. Try posting something in the 4th gen forum.

MorpheusZero · 07-29-2008, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DMSentra

Well Joe, I think the fact that nobody has responded in any mass to this thread basically since the day I posted tells me I probably shouldn't be thinking about making parts for the Max's. Like I stated before, if there was a real interest I'd be into developing some mounts(front and/or rear) but it sure seems like a dead horse.

Here's me expressing some interest.

And I think JSutter is Jon, not Joe...

*JSutter* · 07-30-2008, 06:16 PM

I think he means Joe, 98SEBlackMax.

There is a market for the right parts. Problem is the majority on the org could care less about the little things that matter. Hell most lowered Maxima owners buy the cheapest crap out there for looks ie: stechs (pretty much the worst R&D'ed spring out there). Its a night and day difference with the sr20forum community whom take suspension seriously. They contact major companies to get limited runs of a good product ie Hyperco springs.

As for making rear mounts: Loren, if you already make them for a P11 then start selling them here. They fit the A32. I have had 2 different sets of rear mounts. They both let the sprung slip, if yours have ears then this would help alleviate that issue. Mounts make a big difference in ride comfort. It would be nice to get this community to realize the benefits of such a simple part.

MorpheusZero · 07-30-2008, 06:38 PM

Maxima guys care about looking cool. Sentra guys realize that's a lost cause and go for suspension setup.

Seriously, if they fit I am interested. I don't see any other purpose for them but I'm just confirming, they essentially keep the upper spring perch in the same position but raise the strut rod position in relation to the spring, correct? I'm getting to the point where I have the time and will to tackle shorten the fronts again and I'd like to complete it with more rear travel as well, as I have ~400lb guys riding around in the back every once in awhile

(no homo)

*98SEBlackMax* · 07-30-2008, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMSentra

Well Joe, I think the fact that nobody has responded in any mass to this thread basically since the day I posted tells me I probably shouldn't be thinking about making parts for the Max's. Like I stated before, if there was a real interest I'd be into developing some mounts(front and/or rear) but it sure seems like a dead horse.

Yeah most of these guys in the regular forum would not know the advantages of these. As stated if you ever make some rear ones for the P11s they will work fine for the rear on a A32.

**mtrai760** · 07-31-2008, 07:55 AM

I'd buy them. But like others have already stated, you are not going to get widespread intrest from the 4th gen community. 95% choose cheap over quality, and never put there money where there mouth is.

MorpheusZero · 07-31-2008, 05:36 PM

Yeah I am probably in for a set if they are at the same price point as the Teins. How much extra travel are we talking about here, and are we looking at a pillow-ball mount or what? I might prefer a normal mount if the pillow ball is going to wear out, but I would probably be in either way.

(G.net is down otherwise I probably wouldn't be asking so many questions)