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Old 10-27-2009, 01:26 PM   #1
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Heated steering wheel

I have the cold weather package that includes the heated steering wheel. With the onset of cooler weather I started to use it, but I'm not sure it's working properly.

Here's my scenario. Press the on button, the wheel heats up very quickly. And gets HOT, almost too hot to hold. It will stay this hot for a few minutes, they begin to cool off. After a few more minutes, the wheel will be just barely warm, but the light on the switch will still be lit. Pressing the button OFF then ON does not yield another hot cycle. Waiting a while (20 min?) then pressing ON will deliver a hot cycle.

Does this sound like a normal operation? It's not exactly what I expected. I was expecting a constant warming, not a temp spike and cool off.

I recall that the manual states the wheel will not warm up if the temp is above 65 degrees, but I don't think that would come into play here.
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I have the cold weather package that includes the heated steering wheel. With the onset of cooler weather I started to use it, but I'm not sure it's working properly.

Here's my scenario. Press the on button, the wheel heats up very quickly. And gets HOT, almost too hot to hold. It will stay this hot for a few minutes, they begin to cool off. After a few more minutes, the wheel will be just barely warm, but the light on the switch will still be lit. Pressing the button OFF then ON does not yield another hot cycle. Waiting a while (20 min?) then pressing ON will deliver a hot cycle.

Does this sound like a normal operation? It's not exactly what I expected. I was expecting a constant warming, not a temp spike and cool off.

I recall that the manual states the wheel will not warm up if the temp is above 65 degrees, but I don't think that would come into play here.
I experimented with my heated steering wheel in order to make sure it was working properly. It never got too hot to comfortably hold. Also, it works the same way the heated wheel did in my '05. It heats up then levels off at a slightly cooler setting. Later on, it heats up again then levels off. If yours is getting too hot to hold, take it in to the dealer.
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I have the cold weather package that includes the heated steering wheel. With the onset of cooler weather I started to use it, but I'm not sure it's working properly.

Here's my scenario. Press the on button, the wheel heats up very quickly. And gets HOT, almost too hot to hold. It will stay this hot for a few minutes, they begin to cool off. After a few more minutes, the wheel will be just barely warm, but the light on the switch will still be lit. Pressing the button OFF then ON does not yield another hot cycle. Waiting a while (20 min?) then pressing ON will deliver a hot cycle.

Does this sound like a normal operation? It's not exactly what I expected. I was expecting a constant warming, not a temp spike and cool off.

I recall that the manual states the wheel will not warm up if the temp is above 65 degrees, but I don't think that would come into play here.

This is EXACTLY how the heated steering wheel worked the entire five years I owned my '04 SL, and exactly how it is working on my '09. It is as if the intent was to have an initial MAJOR warmup to get rid of the frozen feeling, then it simply keep the wheel from getting really cold again. I personally would have designed this thing slightly differently, but Nissan never asked me. But it gives me what my gnarly ancient hands absolutely MUST have (a wheel that is not icy cold), and I will never own a car without a heated steering wheel again.
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Old 10-27-2009, 05:20 PM   #4
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Hmm i've never had the too hot to touch feeling but the steering wheel does get pretty hot and cools down to the point where you might not notice its on but when i touch the center of the wheel its cold.
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i wish the steering wheel would just stay on cause when it auto shuts off it feels like its not even on
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Old 10-27-2009, 07:37 PM   #6
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OK, that pretty well confirms for me that it's not a unique condition, and is probably working as intended.

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Hi,

I am not experience with that but i think may be there is some other problem.Contact any experience engineer for solve the problem he will give you the better solution option.



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I think you should wait until the real cold hits us. By then, the performance of your heated steering wheel may fall in line with others. I suspect that high cabin temperatures are fooling the temperature sensors in the steering wheel.
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Yeah, I'm not sure who it was at Nissan that decided the steering wheel should be allowed to cool to 68 degrees but I wish they had made the cutoff 10 degrees warmer (or better yet, variable). I doubt the temperature sensor is accessible, but it would be great to have a workaround that allowed the wheel to stay warmer than the cabin because just about everyone's hands are considerably cooler than their core body temperature.
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I think you should wait until the real cold hits us. By then, the performance of your heated steering wheel may fall in line with others. I suspect that high cabin temperatures are fooling the temperature sensors in the steering wheel.

I live south of Hotlanta GA, and bought my '04 SL in June of that year. Because of the minimum temp cutoff being at least five or (as ratdoc just said) ten degrees too low, it was October before I was able to confirm that my heated steering wheel even worked.
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Hey a little off topic but how do you even turn on the side mirror defrost?
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First off the heated steering wheel is working as designed. Its suppose to be a quick heat up to take the cold off the steering wheel when you touch it. Once it reaches 86 degrees not 68 it will then turn the heating element down. Once it deeps below a certain temp again it will heat up again. This will allow the steering wheel to remain warm longer. The steering wheel is not meant to have continued heating. Just to take the cold out of having a frozen steering wheel. If you keep the switch on long enough it will turn itself off completely ( Meaning the indicator light will be off). If you want more heat than yes press again and it will do it all over.

Second, as for the rear mirrors defroster when you turn on the rear defroster it will heat the mirrors.
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[quote=BMWHIGH1;7272302]First off the heated steering wheel is working as designed. Its suppose to be a quick heat up to take the cold off the steering wheel when you touch it. Once it reaches 86 degrees not 68 it will then turn the heating element down. Once it deeps below a certain temp again it will heat up again. This will allow the steering wheel to remain warm longer. The steering wheel is not meant to have continued heating. Just to take the cold out of having a frozen steering wheel. If you keep the switch on long enough it will turn itself off completely ( Meaning the indicator light will be off). If you want more heat than yes press again and it will do it all over.

Not quite. The heating element isn't activated when the surface temperature of the wheel is above 68 degrees. If the wheel is below that temperature, the heater will bring the temperature up to around 86 and then cycle, which results in a much lower steering wheel surface temperature which Nissan claims is "above 68 degrees". However, since 68 degrees is cooler than most people's hands, this does not feel warm (although the wheel won't be as cold as it would without the system). The heater stays on (nominally) until the switch is pressed again or the car is turned off - there is no auto-off feature. Manually turning the switch off and then back on will restart the heater only if the surface temperature of the wheel is under 68 degrees, which it won't be if you were just using the heater. So, no, pressing again doesn't get you any more heat.
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The surface of my steering wheel heats to about 110 degrees (guessing) and stays there for a while before cooling off. If I move my hands to a different position on the wheel, it feels really hot - a bit uncomfortable and almost too hot. Like picking up a cup of tea that feels too hot a first, but then is just able to be touched.

That's why I asked if this is normal behavior.

And the heated steering wheel function DOES auto-off after a set period of time, just like the rear window defrost. I confirmed it this morning on my drive to work. If you wait a while after it auto-offs, I do experience a renewed heating cycle.
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The surface of my steering wheel heats to about 110 degrees (guessing) and stays there for a while before cooling off. If I move my hands to a different position on the wheel, it feels really hot - a bit uncomfortable and almost too hot. Like picking up a cup of tea that feels too hot a first, but then is just able to be touched.

That's why I asked if this is normal behavior.

And the heated steering wheel function DOES auto-off after a set period of time, just like the rear window defrost. I confirmed it this morning on my drive to work. If you wait a while after it auto-offs, I do experience a renewed heating cycle.
That's interesting about the auto-off. Maybe I need to go for longer rides now that it's cold out. As for the initial heat, I agree with you that it feels hotter than 86. I'll see if I can measure the surface temperature later today. If the sensor isn't near the heating element, 86 at the sensor might mean 110 somewhere else on the wheel.
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That's interesting about the auto-off. Maybe I need to go for longer rides now that it's cold out. As for the initial heat, I agree with you that it feels hotter than 86. I'll see if I can measure the surface temperature later today. If the sensor isn't near the heating element, 86 at the sensor might mean 110 somewhere else on the wheel.


Yes, this wheel definitely gets hotter than 86, which probably means the sensor may not be in the surface of the steering wheel. The initial heatup can be quite uncomfortable for a minute or so, then eases back. Unless the weather is cold, the heat of my hands and the warmed air inside the car keeps the wheel warm enough that the heat soon cycles off and seldom cycles back on, even though the light on the switch is lit. If the weather is cold, the heat eventually cycles back on again.

The heated wheel on both my latest two Maximas behaved exactly as that of TBA (post-starting thread), and the same as what is being described by other posters in this thread. We may not like exactly how it operates, but, as BMWHIGH1 said, this system is not designed to produce constant heat, but to eliminat the frigidity of the wheel at startup, and then come back with heat again later if the wheel temp drops too far down. As ratdoc (and others?) said, I would have preferred the system not let the temp drop back quite so far.
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I just wear gloves...
And you can always throw on a couple of sweaters instead of using the heater all winter...
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