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Old 10-06-2009, 09:44 PM   #1
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Rear Sway Bar Question?

Ok so I have a Stillen RSB on my car at the moment but I never got into thinking if adding something stiffer to the car would cause any issues with the suspension components such as the endlinks or other issues? Can anyone help me on this? I just want to make sure that adding a stiffer part to the car wont cause me to either lose control of my car, wear parts down quicker, and or snap parts or something like that.

If so what options can I take to avoid this?

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Old 10-06-2009, 10:06 PM   #2
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Ok so I have a Stillen RSB on my car at the moment but I never got into thinking if adding something stiffer to the car would cause any issues with the suspension components such as the endlinks or other issues? Can anyone help me on this? I just want to make sure that adding a stiffer part to the car wont cause me to either lose control of my car, wear parts down quicker, and or snap parts or something like that.

If so what options can I take to avoid this?

Thanx all...
I couldn't help but notice that you mentioned in some other post that you have heard of an adjustable sway bar that will be coming out. From who? Perhaps a stupid question, but what about the front? why are there no 'kits' for both front and rear? i.e. Eibach pro kit? something like that? I got the lowering springs and let me tell ya, they helped A TON. I'm wondering if it's worth exploring the other elements of suspension yet or if I should wait out the storm?
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Old 10-06-2009, 10:13 PM   #3
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Ok so I have a Stillen RSB on my car at the moment but I never got into thinking if adding something stiffer to the car would cause any issues with the suspension components such as the endlinks or other issues? Can anyone help me on this? I just want to make sure that adding a stiffer part to the car wont cause me to either lose control of my car, wear parts down quicker, and or snap parts or something like that.

If so what options can I take to avoid this?

Thanx all...
In response to your question, end links seem interesting. They pre-tension the sway bars, which leads to increased stress on the parts under load. While this would result in stiffer handling, in theory, without knowing the exact material of the sway bars, bolts holding down the bushings or end-links, etc., there is no way for us to 'predict' if the application is 'safe' or not. I guess you have to put faith in the manufacturer. Racingline, please chime in and enlighten us...
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In response to your question, end links seem interesting. They pre-tension the sway bars, which leads to increased stress on the parts under load. While this would result in stiffer handling, in theory, without knowing the exact material of the sway bars, bolts holding down the bushings or end-links, etc., there is no way for us to 'predict' if the application is 'safe' or not. I guess you have to put faith in the manufacturer. Racingline, please chime in and enlighten us...
I can agree with that assessment. However, knowing the way that Kam shops around I highly doubt he bought a plastic sway bar so I am sure it is safe in that regards. My answer to the original question would be that adding strut braces should not compromise any of the other suspension components, major abuse aside of course. Also, upgrading to aftermarket end links with our suspension setup should have little effect unless you are eventually track prepping your car in which case more upgrades besides end links would be required.
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Well both of you are correct in ways.. I am useing Stillen RSB and I have faith in it very much. It is stiffer than the stock and You can tell. The worry that I am having is if by adding a different RSB that is stiffer lets say up to 40% on the lowest setting and almost 100% compared to Stillens eventually in certain situations there are issues that could occur such as oversteer, snapping the endlinks, or other issues with the suspension. To my knowledge these factors become greater when you lower the car as you are not putting even more pressure on those parts that weren't built for the parts your putting on.
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Well both of you are correct in ways.. I am useing Stillen RSB and I have faith in it very much. It is stiffer than the stock and You can tell. The worry that I am having is if by adding a different RSB that is stiffer lets say up to 40% on the lowest setting and almost 100% compared to Stillens eventually in certain situations there are issues that could occur such as oversteer, snapping the endlinks, or other issues with the suspension. To my knowledge these factors become greater when you lower the car as you are not putting even more pressure on those parts that weren't built for the parts your putting on.
Do you plan on taking your Max to the track?
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Do you plan on taking your Max to the track?
Probably one but not soon just for straight anyways thats about it.
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What about strut towers can they harm any other components in the front suspension?
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Old 10-08-2009, 04:44 AM   #9
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I will not be responsible for any damage to your vehicle, but I will say no, they are practically risk free. The max already has a strut tower of sorts, little 'winglets' that connect the struts to the firewall at an angle. By adding a FSTB you are completing the triangle and creating an extremely rigid structure, much more so than if you just added a FSTB on a 'regular' car.
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If not taking the car to track... Don't add the STB... You'll regret the roughness. Before moving to the Max, I had my Altima coupe tricked out with Eibach, RacingLine end links, RSB, and STB... It was WAYYYY too rough and it's the fear (from sound and tire noise) that's going to be prohibiting you to make use of it on streets. If it's a smoothe, clean track, I'd say go all out. The Max is a very powerful sport-y commuter car, nothing more. I love it to death but I doubt more than 5% will track it enough to warrant RSB, STB, and end links. Eibach's I can understand because they make the car look sooo much better and the lower center of gravity is okay.

BUT it IS your car so whatever so don't heed my opinon :P
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