GSP Passenger Axles SUCK! - 6MT - Pictures.
02-22-2011, 06:07 PM
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GSP Passenger Axles SUCK! - 6MT - Pictures.
Yes, I was also one of the suckers who bought GSP axles. Paid $120 both both L and R axles. Anyhow, always had the infamous shakes after installing.
Finally, after 14k miles, I got fed up with it and purchased a OP Passenger Axle made by DSS out of China from Federated Auto Parts for $125.
I speculated what my axle problem was. Two issues:
1. There was no OEM vibration dampener on the GSP unit
2. I had this strong suspicion that GSP was boxing passenger AT axles as MT
Since I had no OEM axle to compare, I had to wait until the OP axle came to see. Let's just say, I'll let the pictures tell the rest of the story.
D@MN GSP AXLES!!!!!!!! Anyhow, the shakes are completely gone, the OP axle fit perfectly. So far no issues.
Inner axle:
Dampener:
Outer axle: (C WHAT I C?)
AT axle length compressed is 38 3/16"
MT axle length compressed is 39 3/16"
Hmm...
EDIT: For those who didn't catch it in the title, look at the pictures, read the thread, or see my car description under my avatar, this is a manual 6 speed. Just say'n...
Finally, after 14k miles, I got fed up with it and purchased a OP Passenger Axle made by DSS out of China from Federated Auto Parts for $125.
I speculated what my axle problem was. Two issues:
1. There was no OEM vibration dampener on the GSP unit
2. I had this strong suspicion that GSP was boxing passenger AT axles as MT
Since I had no OEM axle to compare, I had to wait until the OP axle came to see. Let's just say, I'll let the pictures tell the rest of the story.
D@MN GSP AXLES!!!!!!!! Anyhow, the shakes are completely gone, the OP axle fit perfectly. So far no issues.
Inner axle:
Dampener:
Outer axle: (C WHAT I C?)
AT axle length compressed is 38 3/16"
MT axle length compressed is 39 3/16"
Hmm...
EDIT: For those who didn't catch it in the title, look at the pictures, read the thread, or see my car description under my avatar, this is a manual 6 speed. Just say'n...
Last edited by nismopc; 02-23-2011 at 12:38 PM.
02-22-2011, 06:33 PM
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I accidentally replaced a pass side axle (wheel bearing was gone but never made noise, sounded like an axle - hella stupid ****) and got a master pro at oreilly's for 70 bucks. I guess you can get 15 bucks back on core, but I cut the axle out LOL
It's been in a couple weeks and has been perfect. We'll see how long it lasts. Visually, they look good.
It's been in a couple weeks and has been perfect. We'll see how long it lasts. Visually, they look good.
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02-22-2011, 06:33 PM
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02-22-2011, 06:42 PM
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Guys, glad I could contribute.
Just so you know, the GSP part # is NCV3586 or NCV53586 depending on where you were looking. Highly advise you to stay away from that axle.
Drivers side seems to be fine.
Just so you know, the GSP part # is NCV3586 or NCV53586 depending on where you were looking. Highly advise you to stay away from that axle.
Drivers side seems to be fine.
02-22-2011, 07:09 PM
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naw i was going through em in weeks in my auto..... any good links to sticky for MT axles... i have a feeling ill be going through em
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02-22-2011, 07:10 PM
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Auto axles being shorter could help though... for the manual guys, at least.
02-22-2011, 07:14 PM
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... riding slammed is a lifestyle for me
02-22-2011, 07:32 PM
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Apparently, FCPImport sells them as long as this is the same one nismopc bought:
http://fcpimport.com/products/nissan...t-maxima-8006n
http://fcpimport.com/products/nissan...t-maxima-8006n
02-22-2011, 07:53 PM
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Apparently, FCPImport sells them as long as this is the same one nismopc bought:
http://fcpimport.com/products/nissan...t-maxima-8006n
http://fcpimport.com/products/nissan...t-maxima-8006n
02-22-2011, 08:03 PM
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I can also attest that GSP are garbage. Mine vibrates terribly...
It's still under the one-year warranty, so I've been thinking about getting my OEM remanned and returning it, since there's a local shop that remans CV axles for stupid cheap.
I may pick up one of these as a back-up, though. I've noticed that the passenger's side likes to blow out a lot more than the driver's.
It's still under the one-year warranty, so I've been thinking about getting my OEM remanned and returning it, since there's a local shop that remans CV axles for stupid cheap.
I may pick up one of these as a back-up, though. I've noticed that the passenger's side likes to blow out a lot more than the driver's.
02-23-2011, 07:19 AM
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THANK YOU so much! I was going to purchase the GSP from Advance Auto because the price was so tempting.
I need to get under the car again but I don't remember the damper on my 5-speed 2000 Maxima. My axles are all original.
Hold on a second, your FCP Import link also does not show the damper???
- Vikas
I need to get under the car again but I don't remember the damper on my 5-speed 2000 Maxima. My axles are all original.
Hold on a second, your FCP Import link also does not show the damper???
- Vikas
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02-23-2011, 07:27 AM
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are the GSP axles the remanufactured/rebuilt ones from Advance? i have one in my passenger side...and i didnt get a vibration until i lowered my car on coilovers...
also where did you pick up the DSS axle locally? i know its said that FCP has these axles, but wondering if there is a place locally i can get one from? my initial plan was to get a brand new axle from Napa
also where did you pick up the DSS axle locally? i know its said that FCP has these axles, but wondering if there is a place locally i can get one from? my initial plan was to get a brand new axle from Napa
02-23-2011, 07:38 AM
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The GSP unit I have is/was a brand new unit. I don't think GSP sells reman'd.
I tried my local NAPA and they could not find me one across their network and didn't even have a distributor to provide one for me.
I purchased through my local Federated Auto Parts. They found axle from distributor in PA. and had it to me overnight.
http://www.federatedautoparts.com/
I tried my local NAPA and they could not find me one across their network and didn't even have a distributor to provide one for me.
I purchased through my local Federated Auto Parts. They found axle from distributor in PA. and had it to me overnight.
http://www.federatedautoparts.com/
02-23-2011, 07:42 AM
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02-23-2011, 10:20 AM
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I had vibrations before I installed my GSP passenger axle so I didn't notice any difference afterwards. A while after the GSP axle I had an alignment done, car tracked better but still had vibration. Rotated and balanced my tires with no change. Changed front wheel bearings (they were getting loud) no change. Everything else on my steering and suspension was tight so I had no idea what was causing the vibration. Eventually I Replaced my Toyo Proxes 4 with Michelin Pilot Sport A/S+ and vibrations are completely gone (I did not suspect the tires at all). Anyways about the axles... I only have a mild (H&R) drop so maybe the vibrations from GSP is only a problem with significantly dropped vehicles??? I knew it wouldn't be as good of quality as OEM but it beats paying $600 from the dealer. If I ever need to replace again maybe I will try the "OP" if they turn out to be good reliable axles for you guys. (They have them for the 6MT passenger side right?)
02-23-2011, 01:47 PM
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The funny thing is I have YOU to thank for recommending to me the very axles you are now *****ing about haha.http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...le-my-car.html
02-23-2011, 02:04 PM
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My thread/your recommendation was in September 2010 and you claim you have had the vibrating axles installed for 14k miles???
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02-23-2011, 02:05 PM
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The funny thing is I have YOU to thank for recommending to me the very axles you are now *****ing about haha.http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...le-my-car.html
02-23-2011, 03:16 PM
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And for those of you reading this thread lets make sure he actually installed these "OP's" on his car and tested them out before he recommended them to make sure they are decent axles haha thats why I was saying "are you sure they are for a 6mt" because you are saying the GSP's might be auto axles in a different box and you failed to mention that when you recommended them to me in my thread... just say'n.
My thread/your recommendation was in September 2010 and you claim you have had the vibrating axles installed for 14k miles???
My thread/your recommendation was in September 2010 and you claim you have had the vibrating axles installed for 14k miles???
Well, we learn from our mistakes now don't we?
If proof of the old GSP vs. new OP axle comparison pictures was not enough, here are the install pics I took with my phone while I was installing.
Removed from box:
Old axle coming out:
New axle going in:
I only found out about the similiarities between AT and MT axles this past Monday when I was researching, driving from NAPA to Auto Zone to Advance Auto. Not back in Sept of 2010.
As for the shake, I seriously contributed it to ball joint and/or lowering springs on the brand new axles. The passenger axle fits just like it should. I saw no reason to believe it was the axle until I ended up replacing all the other stuff and realized it had to be the axle.I installed the GSP units at 146,700 miles. My car now has 159,700. Sorry, I guess I was off by 1k miles. Oops...
Back to axles:
On Monday, I ordered a reman'd unit from Advance Auto for $59.99 + core and when I got home I looked up the company and found they do not even make manual axles for the car. So I immediately went back to them and explained the issue and cancelled the order. That was when I noticed while searching online and calling Federatred that NAPA online info showed the actual length of the axles. There is exactly 1" difference between the two.
This OP Axle is a MANUAL axle for a 5.5 Gen Nissan Maxima with a 6 speed MANUAL...
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02-23-2011, 03:28 PM
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The point is you recommended GSP knowing they had bad vibration (in your case) you did notice the vibration right away right? I don't know how you wouldnt especially when you drive as many miles as you do. No disrespect sir I actually have had zero problems with this axle but do everyone a favor and don't recommend products to others that you are not satisfied with yourself. Maybe try to be sure the OP's are good before you comment on the quality.
02-23-2011, 03:54 PM
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The point is you recommended GSP knowing they had bad vibration (in your case) you did notice the vibration right away right? I don't know how you wouldnt especially when you drive as many miles as you do. No disrespect sir I actually have had zero problems with this axle but do everyone a favor and don't recommend products to others that you are not satisfied with yourself. Maybe try to be sure the OP's are good before you comment on the quality.
Back to recommendations. You seriously think I'm the first person to recommend a product on the internet on a open public forum with good intentions, then find out the product is a POS?
This is the whole reason why I made a new thread to correct my thoughts. Yea, I assume it would have been proper forum etiquette to point back to my previous posts on the GSP, but I didn't know I was going to be critiqued like this.
Also, please note. I have not and will not recommend the OP Axles to anyone. Take the information I provided as you will and make your own decision based on your own research.
My whole goal was to NOT spend $500 for a OEM axle. If this axle works out for me, I did it. I am currently only out approx. $250 and that was due to a mistake on my part for buying the GSP units under the impression that because they were listed as NEW and my buddy who is a master mechanic (not that it matters now) recommended them from past experience, I felt confident in my decision.
As I stated, we learn from our mistakes and I consider myself quite confident in all my posts at the time I am posting them. I will and do acknowledge when I make mistakes. No shame here. If I am proven wrong either by another person or even by myself, lessen learned.
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02-23-2011, 04:04 PM
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Yeah, sorry to get on your case about it, it just threw me off when I saw this thread. You do seem to contribute good info on the forums so my apologies.
Edit: I have a 6MT maybe one of these days I will compare the GSP to my damaged OEM (that I still have laying in the garage) and see if there is a difference in length between the two.
Edit: I have a 6MT maybe one of these days I will compare the GSP to my damaged OEM (that I still have laying in the garage) and see if there is a difference in length between the two.
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02-24-2011, 04:33 AM
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i have a GSP on my passenger, new from advance as well (found out yesterday) i thought it was remanufactured but it wasnt. so advance is going to order another one they have on their list and see if it comes w/ a damper. but napa here offers DSS, in stock for the DRIVER SIDE for $70. so i'm hoping everything turns out well real soon
SN: 2000 Nissan Maxima 5 speed, here
SN: 2000 Nissan Maxima 5 speed, here
02-24-2011, 05:59 AM
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I accidentally replaced a pass side axle (wheel bearing was gone but never made noise, sounded like an axle - hella stupid ****) and got a master pro at oreilly's for 70 bucks. I guess you can get 15 bucks back on core, but I cut the axle out LOL
It's been in a couple weeks and has been perfect. We'll see how long it lasts. Visually, they look good.
It's been in a couple weeks and has been perfect. We'll see how long it lasts. Visually, they look good.
I would bring it back cut. A broken axle is a broken axle. If it broke on the road like that its still a core. If ur axle wasnt broken there wouldnt be a need for a new one and no need to offer a core.
02-24-2011, 06:52 AM
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Sounds like a fair shake, but the principle of a 'core' doesn't work like that. The purpose of a core is to be able to rebuild it. If the shaft is cut, they can't rebuild a full axle. And if everyone turned in a cut shaft, there would be nothing to rebuild. This, in turn, would mean there would be no re-manufactured cv axles on the market. Leaving the consumer with the only option of a lofty bill for a new shaft.
