A dare at last!!! Grand Sport Stripes on my 6thgen
09-13-2012, 09:05 PM
#201
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09-13-2012, 09:20 PM
#202
Call them at 1-800-964-3134
OR Go to their website..., http://www.escortradar.com/redline-details.php
AND take a few minutes to read my thread...
http://my6thgen.org/f11/escort-9500i...41/index3.html
Last edited by PetitFrereMaxima; 09-13-2012 at 09:22 PM.
09-13-2012, 09:39 PM
#203
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I bought it directly from Escort radar.
Call them at 1-800-964-3134
OR Go to their website..., http://www.escortradar.com/redline-details.php
AND take a few minutes to read my thread...
http://my6thgen.org/f11/escort-9500i...41/index3.html
Call them at 1-800-964-3134
OR Go to their website..., http://www.escortradar.com/redline-details.php
AND take a few minutes to read my thread...
http://my6thgen.org/f11/escort-9500i...41/index3.html
wow.... well heres the thing.
The Good: you bought a very good radar detector and you won't be disappointed in the performance so good job.
The Bad: you bought a overpriced radar detector. There are many radar detectors that perform just as well for half the price.
let me explain, radar and Lidar technologies have not changed in years. The Police are using the same guns as they were 5 years ago. As the years progress, the cost to produce old electronics decreases. So while radar detector companies still need to make money and market new top of the line detectors so they can stay in business, the technologies are the same. Your not getting a better product than the radar detector they build last year and the year before that. They are not like computers where the newer version is the better one. Companies like escort stay in business because of advertising and appealing to people like you. Like i said, you got a good detector but you paid about 200 bucks too much. There are other older detectors with the same bands, same receiver strength, same processing speed, same displays, same everything that were once 500 bucks but are now 200-300 bucks.
But there are also really bad detectors out there, so by going with escort you have a reputable device. You just paid too much for it.
This was taken from an independent radar testing web site. The radar detector is made by bell, which sells at 300 bucks.
"BELs are destined to forever be overshadowed by the heavily-hyped Escort Passport 9500ix. Here's the irony: hardly anyone knows that all three are really the same detector. When parent company Escort rolled out the GPS-enabled 9500ix, its subsidiary, Beltronics (BEL), was given a version as well. Same platform, switchgear and electronic innards. Both use the same Defender red light/speed camera database." Yet the escort is 200 bucks more?
Last edited by twentyeggs; 09-13-2012 at 09:45 PM.
09-13-2012, 09:48 PM
#204
wow.... well heres the thing.
The Good: you bought a very good radar detector and you won't be disappointed in the performance so good job.
The Bad: you bought a overpriced radar detector. There are many radar detectors that perform just as well for half the price.
let me explain, radar and Lidar technologies have not changed in years. The Police are using the same guns as they were 5 years ago. As the years progress, the cost to produce old electronics decreases. So while radar detector companies still need to make money and market new top of the line detectors so they can stay in business, the technologies are the same. Your not getting a better product than the radar detector they build last year and the year before that. They are not like computers where the newer version is the better one. Companies like escort stay in business because of advertising and appealing to people like you. Like i said, you got a good detector but you paid about 200 bucks too much. There are other older detectors with the same bands, same receiver strength, same processing speed, same displays, same everything that were once 500 bucks but are now 200-300 bucks.
But there are also really bad detectors out there, so by going with escort you have a reputable device. You just paid too much for it.
The Good: you bought a very good radar detector and you won't be disappointed in the performance so good job.
The Bad: you bought a overpriced radar detector. There are many radar detectors that perform just as well for half the price.
let me explain, radar and Lidar technologies have not changed in years. The Police are using the same guns as they were 5 years ago. As the years progress, the cost to produce old electronics decreases. So while radar detector companies still need to make money and market new top of the line detectors so they can stay in business, the technologies are the same. Your not getting a better product than the radar detector they build last year and the year before that. They are not like computers where the newer version is the better one. Companies like escort stay in business because of advertising and appealing to people like you. Like i said, you got a good detector but you paid about 200 bucks too much. There are other older detectors with the same bands, same receiver strength, same processing speed, same displays, same everything that were once 500 bucks but are now 200-300 bucks.
But there are also really bad detectors out there, so by going with escort you have a reputable device. You just paid too much for it.
It would be nice of you to give some specific names of the radars you know that are cheaper and perform just as the Redline. That way maybe someone reading this thread might already get a recommendation from you. Can you tell them some of the radars that you say;
"There are other older detectors with the same bands, same receiver strength, same processing speed, same displays, same everything that were once 500 bucks but are now 200-300 bucks."?
It might help some people who would prefer to spend that much and get the same protection and performance like other people who buy radar detectors for $586 or for $1700 for the Passport 9500ci.
Last edited by PetitFrereMaxima; 09-13-2012 at 09:51 PM.
09-13-2012, 09:52 PM
#205
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 10,349
I bought it directly from Escort radar.
Call them at 1-800-964-3134
OR Go to their website..., http://www.escortradar.com/redline-details.php
AND take a few minutes to read my thread...
http://my6thgen.org/f11/escort-9500i...41/index3.html
Call them at 1-800-964-3134
OR Go to their website..., http://www.escortradar.com/redline-details.php
AND take a few minutes to read my thread...
http://my6thgen.org/f11/escort-9500i...41/index3.html
09-13-2012, 10:37 PM
#207
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Posts: 1,625
In the case of whether that fraction of a second is worth the extra 380 bucks, its not.. If a cop is using DSP or lidar (which is 70-80% of the time depending on state) the time it takes for gun to measure the b Doppler shift is 0.4 seconds from trigger pull to number readout. Its even less for lidar. Radar detectors are only effective if the cop is tagging a car in front or side of you, and your detector picks up the residual waves. In that case an extra 60-80 feet (less than one second) is not going to make a difference, and its certainly not worth the price of two decent radar detectors. Since the technology hasn't changed in years the best radar companies can do is make the electronics and platforms work a bit better and a bit more quickly with a more efficient circuit board. when it comes to use in the practical world it takes a machine and hundreds of tests to even determine the difference.
you can tell i've done a little too much research on these things. I was seriously contemplating buying one last year before i realized i'd have a better chance dodging a speeding ticket by watching for an uncommon cluster of brake lights ahead after the people see the cop on the side of the road. I am generally very aware of things like this as i was taught from day one to look ahead at a distance when you drive and not just 100 feet ahead of your hood. After 2-3 years of owning nothing but a motorcycle searching ahead while driving/riding is imperative. if you dont you could easily hit a piece of shredded tire or road debris large enough to crash and kill you on the freeway. In the case i am alone and there are no cars to warn me, i wouldn't stand a change anyways. The only exception to this is if you live in a state where K and X band are the only bands permitted. if your cop is using one of these bands if your quick and alert you have a fighting chance at lowing your speed to an acceptable one before the gun readout. For me I live in California where cops are permitted to use lidar but more often they choose to use radar because its easier maintenance wise and requires less calibration. I've acually escaped a ticket with a radar detector before, but i think it was a fluke and a lucky occurrence for me. don't get me wrong if i could get my hands on a detector for a good deal i would use it. They are better than nothing, but i am not willing to buy a cheap one that doesn't work well, and im not willing to spend damm near 600 bucks for a decent one cause i don't think its worth it.
Last edited by twentyeggs; 09-13-2012 at 10:54 PM.
09-14-2012, 04:46 AM
#208
i read somewhere that this is correct. his escort has a duel antenna in the rear which most other brands don't have. however the advantage is by 60-80 feet when compared to other cheaper models. Which is literally less than 1 second at 68 mph. If your traveling at speeds where you will likly get a speeding ticket 75+ that advantage is even less, faster than human reaction time.
In the case of whether that fraction of a second is worth the extra 380 bucks, its not.. If a cop is using DSP or lidar (which is 70-80% of the time depending on state) the time it takes for gun to measure the b Doppler shift is 0.4 seconds from trigger pull to number readout. Its even less for lidar. Radar detectors are only effective if the cop is tagging a car in front or side of you, and your detector picks up the residual waves. In that case an extra 60-80 feet (less than one second) is not going to make a difference, and its certainly not worth the price of two decent radar detectors. Since the technology hasn't changed in years the best radar companies can do is make the electronics and platforms work a bit better and a bit more quickly with a more efficient circuit board. when it comes to use in the practical world it takes a machine and hundreds of tests to even determine the difference.
you can tell i've done a little too much research on these things. I was seriously contemplating buying one last year before i realized i'd have a better chance dodging a speeding ticket by watching for an uncommon cluster of brake lights ahead after the people see the cop on the side of the road. I am generally very aware of things like this as i was taught from day one to look ahead at a distance when you drive and not just 100 feet ahead of your hood. After 2-3 years of owning nothing but a motorcycle searching ahead while driving/riding is imperative. if you dont you could easily hit a piece of shredded tire or road debris large enough to crash and kill you on the freeway. In the case i am alone and there are no cars to warn me, i wouldn't stand a change anyways. The only exception to this is if you live in a state where K and X band are the only bands permitted. if your cop is using one of these bands if your quick and alert you have a fighting chance at lowing your speed to an acceptable one before the gun readout. For me I live in California where cops are permitted to use lidar but more often they choose to use radar because its easier maintenance wise and requires less calibration. I've acually escaped a ticket with a radar detector before, but i think it was a fluke and a lucky occurrence for me. don't get me wrong if i could get my hands on a detector for a good deal i would use it. They are better than nothing, but i am not willing to buy a cheap one that doesn't work well, and im not willing to spend damm near 600 bucks for a decent one cause i don't think its worth it.
In the case of whether that fraction of a second is worth the extra 380 bucks, its not.. If a cop is using DSP or lidar (which is 70-80% of the time depending on state) the time it takes for gun to measure the b Doppler shift is 0.4 seconds from trigger pull to number readout. Its even less for lidar. Radar detectors are only effective if the cop is tagging a car in front or side of you, and your detector picks up the residual waves. In that case an extra 60-80 feet (less than one second) is not going to make a difference, and its certainly not worth the price of two decent radar detectors. Since the technology hasn't changed in years the best radar companies can do is make the electronics and platforms work a bit better and a bit more quickly with a more efficient circuit board. when it comes to use in the practical world it takes a machine and hundreds of tests to even determine the difference.
you can tell i've done a little too much research on these things. I was seriously contemplating buying one last year before i realized i'd have a better chance dodging a speeding ticket by watching for an uncommon cluster of brake lights ahead after the people see the cop on the side of the road. I am generally very aware of things like this as i was taught from day one to look ahead at a distance when you drive and not just 100 feet ahead of your hood. After 2-3 years of owning nothing but a motorcycle searching ahead while driving/riding is imperative. if you dont you could easily hit a piece of shredded tire or road debris large enough to crash and kill you on the freeway. In the case i am alone and there are no cars to warn me, i wouldn't stand a change anyways. The only exception to this is if you live in a state where K and X band are the only bands permitted. if your cop is using one of these bands if your quick and alert you have a fighting chance at lowing your speed to an acceptable one before the gun readout. For me I live in California where cops are permitted to use lidar but more often they choose to use radar because its easier maintenance wise and requires less calibration. I've acually escaped a ticket with a radar detector before, but i think it was a fluke and a lucky occurrence for me. don't get me wrong if i could get my hands on a detector for a good deal i would use it. They are better than nothing, but i am not willing to buy a cheap one that doesn't work well, and im not willing to spend damm near 600 bucks for a decent one cause i don't think its worth it.
09-14-2012, 08:45 AM
#209
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I did find your Redline for 473.98 + free shipping. here:
as for comparable detectors i am going off the two biggest radar detector/jammers testing companies.
Escort passport
Beltronics Vector series
Beltronic STi series (my personal favorite)
Cobra XRS-9970G (do not buy any other cobra)
even though cobras tend to have better displays, and the notification are FAR FAR FAAAAR superior to the annoying beeps and robot voices bell and escort have, they are not comparable performance wise unless you buy their top of the line detector, but then you are in the 500 dollar range again.
09-14-2012, 09:51 AM
#210
Ok, ill be nice and do the search for you.
I did find your Redline for 473.98 + free shipping. here: http://www.amazon.com/Escort-0100006...tector+reviews
as for comparable detectors i am going off the two biggest radar detector/jammers testing companies.
Escort passport
Beltronics Vector series
Beltronic STi series (my personal favorite)
Cobra XRS-9970G (do not buy any other cobra)
even though cobras tend to have better displays, and the notification are FAR FAR FAAAAR superior to the annoying beeps and robot voices bell and escort have, they are not comparable performance wise unless you buy their top of the line detector, but then you are in the 500 dollar range again.
I did find your Redline for 473.98 + free shipping. here: http://www.amazon.com/Escort-0100006...tector+reviews
as for comparable detectors i am going off the two biggest radar detector/jammers testing companies.
Escort passport
Beltronics Vector series
Beltronic STi series (my personal favorite)
Cobra XRS-9970G (do not buy any other cobra)
even though cobras tend to have better displays, and the notification are FAR FAR FAAAAR superior to the annoying beeps and robot voices bell and escort have, they are not comparable performance wise unless you buy their top of the line detector, but then you are in the 500 dollar range again.
The only 2 window detectors I will ever own will be either the Redline or Valentine 1. I am even thinking of buying the Valentine 1 and compare it with the Redline to see which I will keep based on MY OWN decision. For my Redline has been going off a lot, but I am busy turning my head wondering where the signal might be coming from. So, I would love to see the arrows of Valentine 1 in action.
09-14-2012, 11:36 AM
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Thanks for the list. But the list is for people who are interested in going cheaper. I can afford the $500 plus radars, so I will stay in that price range.
The only 2 window detectors I will ever own will be either the Redline or Valentine 1. I am even thinking of buying the Valentine 1 and compare it with the Redline to see which I will keep based on MY OWN decision. For my Redline has been going off a lot, but I am busy turning my head wondering where the signal might be coming from. So, I would love to see the arrows of Valentine 1 in action.
The only 2 window detectors I will ever own will be either the Redline or Valentine 1. I am even thinking of buying the Valentine 1 and compare it with the Redline to see which I will keep based on MY OWN decision. For my Redline has been going off a lot, but I am busy turning my head wondering where the signal might be coming from. So, I would love to see the arrows of Valentine 1 in action.
09-15-2012, 10:02 PM
#212
All detectors definitely fault. Mine too.
Mine shows X a lot. Then shows K and then Ka and I have had 2 instances of LASER. Of course, when it was LASER, I was already in shooting sight. The cop had me already on both times, but luckily I was doing speed limit.
Well, today I took a trip to Lake Charles, Louisianna ( 3 hours trip) just for weekend fun getaway and to try out my radar. I was not impressed at all. So, I am going to be purchasing the Valentine 1 soon. My Redline was just quiet!!! As quiet as it was, it caused me to almost pass a State Trooper packed on the shoulder while I was doing 110mph on odometer. After driving by a total of 6 cops on the freeway and no alerts, I am done with this unit currently in my possession. Time for me to call Valentine Research.
Mine shows X a lot. Then shows K and then Ka and I have had 2 instances of LASER. Of course, when it was LASER, I was already in shooting sight. The cop had me already on both times, but luckily I was doing speed limit.
Well, today I took a trip to Lake Charles, Louisianna ( 3 hours trip) just for weekend fun getaway and to try out my radar. I was not impressed at all. So, I am going to be purchasing the Valentine 1 soon. My Redline was just quiet!!! As quiet as it was, it caused me to almost pass a State Trooper packed on the shoulder while I was doing 110mph on odometer. After driving by a total of 6 cops on the freeway and no alerts, I am done with this unit currently in my possession. Time for me to call Valentine Research.
09-15-2012, 10:54 PM
#213
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All detectors definitely fault. Mine too.
Mine shows X a lot. Then shows K and then Ka and I have had 2 instances of LASER. Of course, when it was LASER, I was already in shooting sight. The cop had me already on both times, but luckily I was doing speed limit.
Well, today I took a trip to Lake Charles, Louisianna ( 3 hours trip) just for weekend fun getaway and to try out my radar. I was not impressed at all. So, I am going to be purchasing the Valentine 1 soon. My Redline was just quiet!!! As quiet as it was, it caused me to almost pass a State Trooper packed on the shoulder while I was doing 110mph on odometer. After driving by a total of 6 cops on the freeway and no alerts, I am done with this unit currently in my possession. Time for me to call Valentine Research.
Mine shows X a lot. Then shows K and then Ka and I have had 2 instances of LASER. Of course, when it was LASER, I was already in shooting sight. The cop had me already on both times, but luckily I was doing speed limit.
Well, today I took a trip to Lake Charles, Louisianna ( 3 hours trip) just for weekend fun getaway and to try out my radar. I was not impressed at all. So, I am going to be purchasing the Valentine 1 soon. My Redline was just quiet!!! As quiet as it was, it caused me to almost pass a State Trooper packed on the shoulder while I was doing 110mph on odometer. After driving by a total of 6 cops on the freeway and no alerts, I am done with this unit currently in my possession. Time for me to call Valentine Research.
09-15-2012, 11:40 PM
#214
http://my6thgen.org/f11/escort-9500i...41/index4.html
This is a radar detector, most definitely. BUT I believe cops usually are on the freeway shooting people to find speeders. And the Redline which some people report ranges of 1 mile, 5 miles and even 10 miles range, should be able to pick up scattered radar and alert me. But it prefers to stay quiet, but go loud when I get into areas of grocery stores. I did not buy it for it to alert me of grocery stores. So, I believe I may have bought a faulty unit.
Read my thread and read post #77 in my thread and click on the links I provided to see other Redline owners who were unfortunate to buy faulty units like me. I just spent $586 on this thing, it better work or I am sending it back. Well, its not working so I am sending it back to manufacturers. I will be getting the Valentine 1 real soon. I will see which of them 2 impresses me based on MY OWN research.
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