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Old 07-13-2009, 07:29 PM   #41
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The R2C is a CAI... the prototype was tested without the heat shield.

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Finally got the dyno sheet scanned. Averaged 3 runs for both intakes.

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The R2C is a CAI... the prototype was tested without the heat shield.

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Finally got the dyno sheet scanned. Averaged 3 runs for both intakes.

Then install the heat shield and run the dyno with the hood closed. Any dyno run with the hood up on any intake setup produces inaccurate data as having the hood up alters the airflow in the engine bay (regardless of the type of intake modification). Don't believe me though, drop the hood and run the tests again, I'd love to be proved wrong on this setup, if I am I may just order one myself.

EDIT: Since you've already run the tests I doubt you'll do so again, but it's always worth asking right? Great work so far on this new intake project for the FWD VQ35s...
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Then install the heat shield and run the dyno with the hood closed. Any dyno run with the hood up on any intake setup produces inaccurate data as having the hood up alters the airflow in the engine bay (regardless of the type of intake modification). Don't believe me though, drop the hood and run the tests again, I'd love to be proved wrong on this setup, if I am I may just order one myself.

EDIT: Since you've already run the tests I doubt you'll do so again, but it's always worth asking right? Great work so far on this new intake project for the FWD VQ35s...
Well, they will be getting their own dyno at their facilities eventually. When they get all that taken care of, I'll be able to do as many runs as I want, and I will do just that!
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The prototype pics do not do this company justice... if you have not checked out their website yet, you will want to take a look at it... look at how hot the Z/G dual intake is or even the Z/G single intake. They sell replacement filters as well... might be worth testing on a CAI that you already have... seems like the filter is the real technology that R2C brings to the table!
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really interested when alls said and done on this and the black chrome is a definate possibility. i know i'm dreaming or reaching, but is r2c capable of making a dual set-up? no guff guys, just askin.
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Old 07-13-2009, 09:04 PM   #47
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They can't for the Maxima since it's just a single intake. But if you go to their site (which needs a little work, honestly lol), they have photos of their dual G37/370Z intakes. Those are soooo sweet!
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Old 07-13-2009, 09:50 PM   #48
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im not getting rid of my jita but im interested in the filter. wat if we jus bought the filter, that would b just as good if not better
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Old 07-13-2009, 10:12 PM   #49
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I don't think they have the size... I can inquire...

It'll be better than the Fujita filter, no doubt, but not likely better than the full R2c system. These guys are crazy with their engineering/knowledge... the slightest bend/etc. can throw things off, and they know this... while most of the other guys just bend a tube to fit.

Of all the filters they tested, the Fujita was the worst. That's part of the reason I can't wait to get rid of mine.

But I'll see if they have a size that would fit.
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Then install the heat shield and run the dyno with the hood closed. Any dyno run with the hood up on any intake setup produces inaccurate data as having the hood up alters the airflow in the engine bay (regardless of the type of intake modification). Don't believe me though, drop the hood and run the tests again, I'd love to be proved wrong on this setup, if I am I may just order one myself.

EDIT: Since you've already run the tests I doubt you'll do so again, but it's always worth asking right? Great work so far on this new intake project for the FWD VQ35s...
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Im curious what makes this intake have 9 more hp when its just a tube. What makes this different than other intakes?
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It's not just a tube... it's all about the filter media...
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Man, that is nice! I want one!
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It's not just a tube... it's all about the filter media...
You really think the filter media can make that much difference?
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You really think the filter media can make that much difference?
Yup! I hate to use their own site as a source of info, but...

http://r2cperformance.com/technical-advantages2.html

Scroll through the stuff in gray on the right of the page.
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okk cool cuz i would really like to put a nice filter on my jita
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all you did was move the air filter to a wide open space, shut the hood.
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all you did was move the air filter to a wide open space, shut the hood.
It was a prototype system without the heat shield. The final product will have the heat shield, and you will get the same benefits as any CAI that's stuck into the wheel well.

Nevermind that the Fujita filter tested the absolute worst as far as filtration/restriction is concerned... No wonder my throttle body is filthy.
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any word on them offering just the filters... Def. wouldn't mind upgrading the one on the Nismo
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They have replacement filters... not sure if they have any that fit down in our wheel well. Hopefully next week, they will have the final product finished. When I go in to install it, I'll ask if they have the right size. The Nismo filter should be the same size as the one Fujita uses. I'll let you know.
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I usually clean my jita's filter every time I do an oil change. When my car was around 20k I decided to clean the TB. I was shocked to find it was so dirty. I thought it would be alot cleaner since I always use systemic oil, and keep good clean engine. The results after cleaning TB were immediate more of an aggressive sound coming from the engine bay. So I also might look into buying a better filter...and just keep my jita...
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Old 07-27-2009, 09:03 PM   #64
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Sooooo.... When can we start puttin in orders?
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Workin' on it. These guys are traveling so much during the summer... all across the country for all the races they sponsor/have drivers in etc. The guys I'm dealing with should be back in town this week. Will keep ya posted!
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Update... Ed is checking the delivery dates for the components. Once they get everything in and ready to go, they should be taking orders. I'll post up when I know more. I'll have to go in again so they can install and check everything one last time... more photos for the website/brochure etc...
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1 other question nobody asked regaurding the dyno results ( just playing devils advocate)

How old and how dirty was the filter on your Fujita? I doubt this test was new vs new which again along with the open hood help skew the numbers...

just a curious question, Racignline is still not ready to build an intake just yet.
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1 other question nobody asked regaurding the dyno results ( just playing devils advocate)

How old and how dirty was the filter on your Fujita? I doubt this test was new vs new which again along with the open hood help skew the numbers...

just a curious question, Racignline is still not ready to build an intake just yet.
I actually bought a 2nd filter... which was used for the dyno... barely 2,000 miles on it.

What's funny is that Fujita actually contacted R2c to ask if they'd made a filter for them. The guys at Fujita know their filters are garbage. You should see my throttle body. :|
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I actually bought a 2nd filter... which was used for the dyno... barely 2,000 miles on it.

What's funny is that Fujita actually contacted R2c to ask if they'd made a filter for them. The guys at Fujita know their filters are garbage. You should see my throttle body. :|
Haha, that's awesome. well I hope the project goes well.
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Haha, that's awesome. well I hope the project goes well.
Taken a bit of time due to schedules and stuff, but it's coming to an end very soon...

If you ever do design your own intake, pay some serious attention to the filter media you use. Anyone can make a tube...
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did u see if they had a replacement filter for the jita???
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The final product should be finished in a week... When it's done, I'll head into their place in Forest Park IL, and get it installed. Pics of the finished product when that day comes as well... of course!
woah, I didn't know these guys were local. Might have to ask them to do something for the cheap *** bastard 4th gen owners...
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It was a prototype system without the heat shield. The final product will have the heat shield, and you will get the same benefits as any CAI that's stuck into the wheel well.

Nevermind that the Fujita filter tested the absolute worst as far as filtration/restriction is concerned... No wonder my throttle body is filthy.
how? I can't see your pictures cause they're down. Does that mean a hole has to be drilled as it would be with a CAI? Even then there is no direct path for the cold air to get to the filter unless you run another tube into the wheel well. Otherwise the heat shield pretty much isolates the filter from any air. Again I can't see the pictures you posted so I don't know what it looks like but if the shield is just blocking the engine heat there is nothing about this intake that gives it CAI benefits.
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how? I can't see your pictures cause they're down. Does that mean a hole has to be drilled as it would be with a CAI? Even then there is no direct path for the cold air to get to the filter unless you run another tube into the wheel well. Otherwise the heat shield pretty much isolates the filter from any air. Again I can't see the pictures you posted so I don't know what it looks like but if the shield is just blocking the engine heat there is nothing about this intake that gives it CAI benefits.
The pics I posted of the prototype have it missing the heat shield. They brought the wrong one with them when we went to the dyno. Oops!

Well, with the Fujita etc. there is no air being directed to the filter in the wheel well. The heat shield for the R2c will allow air from the grill to come in. And with the hood scoop thing (don't have mine), you'd be getting fresh to the intake that way too. A little modification of the heatshield would be necessary. Some minor cutting.

And yeah... they are local... Forest Park... Kind of a haul for you up in C-ville. Honestly, not sure if they'd do something for a 4th Gen. There really is a lot of R&D involved with their work. When I see them, I can ask for the hell of it. '95-'99, right?
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C'MON! I wanna see this thing!!

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lol This next week, I'm going back for the final fitting... they need to tweak the heat shield a bit... then production!
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Final test fit today.... more after I get back...
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Didn't get a chance to take pics as it was being installed... they had to tweak the heat shield and stuff... but I was taken on a tour of their facilities... geez, their factory is huge. They make the intakes for the military Hummers, Oshkosh trucks and I think the Stryker. Compared to all that stuff, the R2c division is small. lol I saw the workshop for the R2c division... they have a bunch of machines... a flow bench... etc. etc. Lots of technical stuff, and a whole room full of competitor products... K&N/Fujita etc. that they test and compare to theirs.

I'll take some pics tomorrow of what's installed in my car... it's still a prototype, but more of a "final" version. They still have to tweak the heat shield and bracket etc. Hopefully within 3 weeks, I'll have a retail version installed... for now, I'm running with this one. It actually sounds a lot better... gone is that hiss that you'd get from the cotton Fujita filter. Butt Dyno... well, I'll run with it a bit more before I comment on that... but initially... definitely more get-up-and-go right from the start all throughout WOT.

This intake will be a little pricey due to all the research that's gone into it... $250-300... I'll see what I can do about a group deal or something to help out with that. But unloading the Fujita on eBay for $100-150 would be pretty easy...
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BUMP!!!! I'm going to get one of these! My Fujita bracket is bent/ loose and I was planning to go back to short ram anyways during the winter when a lot of snow gets under the car. Was going to fabricate my own air box for the cold air benefits but I will leave that up to these guys and buy this when it's out. I really feel the short ram intakes give my car a little better throttle response.
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