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ankit69 that seems a bit high and the tsb is only for the right rear sensor and when they fix the problem they only clean the hub not replace it, sounds like they trying to get as much money out of you as posible. I know my hub was very rusty and the sensor covered in dust and debri, a good cleaning and its been as good as new. I would deff start there and delete codes to see if problem still exist. If the code for abs acuator comes back after that you can purchase a recycled abs module off ebay and get it installed, but highly doubt the dealer would do that.
said it before, sounds like theyre trying to get over on him. clean the sensors before you piss away that much money. If the sensor was actually bad you would have a code saying so. Since theyre isnt a code for the sensors clean them off and im about 70% sure itll fix your problem. As for the actuator... try to clean the sensors and reset the ecu. It might sort itself out, if not try to find a used one.
My ABS is also kicking in under braking. It is very annoying. As of now, I get no warning lights.
I went through the previous threads and it was mentioned the op fixed the problem by bleeding his brakes properly. The other thing not mentioned yet was to reset the ECU after cleaning the brake sensors.
I've cleaned my FR and RR sensors, but my braking problem still persists. It seems like to be much worse under cold weather. I'm going to bleed the brakes tomorrow before ordering new speed sensors.
said it before, sounds like theyre trying to get over on him. clean the sensors before you piss away that much money. If the sensor was actually bad you would have a code saying so. Since theyre isnt a code for the sensors clean them off and im about 70% sure itll fix your problem. As for the actuator... try to clean the sensors and reset the ecu. It might sort itself out, if not try to find a used one.
How are you cleaning the sensors? I sprayed mine with brake cleaner, and wiped them off with a paper towel.
How are you cleaning the sensors? I sprayed mine with brake cleaner, and wiped them off with a paper towel.
First off I would highly advise against using brake cleaner to clean the sensor. The sensor is plastic and brake cleaner is corrosive thus eats away at plastic parts. Have you looked at the TSB?, read it thoroughly and if you have the tools and the know-how go for it. Per the TSB remove and clean only the right rear hub (here u can use the brake clean and a strong brush) also clean plastic shield unless you can acquire a new one. Thats what fixed my problem, there was all kinds of rust/metal particles in the hub. If you have no code IMO replacing the sensor would be a waste of money... you can also do that afterwards if the procedure doesn't fix problem.
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Somebody has to try this. If you look at the ABS TSB that is out for these cars. You will see that they list the rear axle housing as the primary failed part! That will put the car under the powertrain warranty which should pay for these ABS Issues that some of you are having.
Brakes were grinding and ABS were activating on every stop. After 3 days of this the ABS, VDC, Slip and parking brake warning lights came on. All the lights came while I was on my way to the dealer to get the problem checked.
The dealer replaced one of the wheel sensors and after running the car, the warning lights came on again...this time indicating the actuator was to blame. Fortunately, I'm still under warranty and the whole thing is covered, but the cost in the $2500 range.
Apparently this is more of a common issue than I first realized. Good luck with your repair.
First off I would highly advise against using brake cleaner to clean the sensor. The sensor is plastic and brake cleaner is corrosive thus eats away at plastic parts. Have you looked at the TSB?, read it thoroughly and if you have the tools and the know-how go for it. Per the TSB remove and clean only the right rear hub (here u can use the brake clean and a strong brush) also clean plastic shield unless you can acquire a new one. Thats what fixed my problem, there was all kinds of rust/metal particles in the hub. If you have no code IMO replacing the sensor would be a waste of money... you can also do that afterwards if the procedure doesn't fix problem.
Thanks for the advice. I performed the TSB on my car yesterday. It was kind hard getting the hub/wheel bearing off, but I ended up mounting the wheel onto the hub, and kicked the tire a few times.
I was surprised by how much crap there was inside the rear hub. After I cleaned everything, my ABS problem went away.
$2800 + tax... isn't that just dandy...57,000 miles -- no warranty.Ya so im not in the best mood anymore...New sensors & abs module or control whatever its called... SO TO EVERYONE ELSE... IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS WITH ABS TAKE IT IN IMMEDIATELY!!!!!
so, again i have inspection in october of this yr so i will need to get this fixed or something before then because if any light are on during inspection you automatically fail....=(
Bad day... nissans suck (at least right now they do)
Basically what happened to me, however not quite such an outrageous sum - $1400 at around 60k as well.
It came down to brute negotiation skills to the point where i vowed to call the general manager of the west-herr auto group and i dropped a few names as well as call the local news station saying i was mislead (i technically was bc they promised me it was going to be $200 then called again and said $1400, they had the car for 2 days). They went back and figured it would be easier to just extinguish it and do it as 'goodwill'.
Oh yeah, and nissan of north america...good luck with that, they basically told me to go **** myself.
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Thanks for the advice. I performed the TSB on my car yesterday. It was kind hard getting the hub/wheel bearing off, but I ended up mounting the wheel onto the hub, and kicked the tire a few times.
I was surprised by how much crap there was inside the rear hub. After I cleaned everything, my ABS problem went away.
Anytime bro, my hub had tons of crap in it as well. The hardest thing was getting it all apart, but I'll trade a sore body for a free fix!
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I too am having the ABS issues in my '04 SE. No ABS lights came on. I have pulled the fuse to disconnect ABS until I decide what to do with it. Thanks for all the good info in this thread. I will either wait it out till warmer weather or print out the TSB and bring to my local mechanic. (avoiding the dealer like the plague)
This seems to be a common prob latelly for the 04's... mine does same thing on and off. It had gotten real bad then today i went to car wash and after the noise is gone. I think its a prob with the wheel sensors as that was the solution for pete, but air in the line/module or the actual module itself could be at fault. I dont have a warentee and its been to cold to look at it but once it warms up I am going to do the rear brakes check/clean wheel sensor and bleed the brakes. I am hoping one or the combination of those repairs the problem, because the abs module is expensive and a pain to change. I am wondering with all these probs if a tsb or recall is in the works.
bad/dirty abs sensors. theres a tsb out for it now somewhere. search the forum for it.
Hi All
I have 02 SE automatic 192,000 KM. I was having the problem where after
when I drive the car after its been SITTING more than couple hours(or
overnight) and I brake for the first time during the driving session
when I hit 20 mph and below it feels as if the ABS motor kicks on and
the pedal pushes back with a little pulsating…
Today I brought to My Nissan dealer Ship and they fix the problem
- If you had any Work/repair done to any part related to the wheels
like in my case I got my <<Back right wheel Bearing>> replace and the
Mechanic who did the work did not re-assemble the parts properly.
The ABS Ring is not securely set in place. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG
WHIT THE CAR IF THERE IS NO CODE STORED IN THE COMPUTER.
If you are in Toronto, CANADA Go to Nissan/Infinity located on
(McCowan Rd & Sheppard) they fixed my car there it was not expensive
Hope that help all the Noise are gone from my car when I push on the
brake pedal
It's probably located in the fuse cluster under the hood and you can look in your manual to find out which one it is.
I have looked in the three most likely places ie: under dash fuse cluster...link cluster.and also pulled the wing off next to w/w washer , and still no abs fuse.. thanks , may have to buy a shop manual to really find it..thought some here would know.................btw owners manual does't tell what, or where.
help ,does anyone know the location of the abs actuator relay----think thats what it's called(trying to stop the noise it makes, even with ign off,whirring sound)
on maxima 2004/sl
There is no fuse for the ABS controller. You actually have to pull the fusable links that are located under the hood near the battery. I think it is the second one back from the front of the vehicle. They are in tight and are difficult to get out but are removable. You must remove the whole red plastic assembly. Don't take off the clear plastic cover and break the copper links. The fusable link that powers the ABS controller also powers the power windows and some other stuff. You will have to take some kind of insulating material (I used a thin sheet of clear plastic that was for holding a sheet of paper) and put it on the stabs for the contacts that go to the abs controller. I had to figure out which stabs by looking at the electrical schematic in the repair manual. Real pain in the *** just to turn off the ABS controller. I finally replaced the abs controller with a used on only to find out that I'm still getting the abs light after driving for a few minutes. I think I will try cleaning the sensors and go from there. My 2 cents is that this is a really Shi**y design and this is the third time I'm having work done on it. Nissan should be ashamed..
so reading this thread makes me ill. i had the abs problem too. all my lights went on about a year ago....abs was activating constantly and continued to worsen....like a fool i kept driving, had stuff to do, no time. finally abs was clicking and whirring with out even touching the brakes until whatever it was seemed to have burned out...all the sounds stopped but 4 different lights went on.......now they have been on for the past year...finally take it in a week ago and dealer comes back with a $3000 price tag to replace the sensors and abs actuator.....told them not to do it. they also claimed that the sensors were so corroded that they would have to drill them out and re-drill holes. took it to a well-known mom/pop place...they trouble shot for a couple days...replaced one sensor at a time...never one word about drilling anything out or re-tapping holes....i crossed my fingers, but i got the call earlier today that the actuator indeed needs to be replaced....but their price was around $2000 (sensors included)....expensive as hell, but a grand lighter than the dealer. i guess it's a lesson learned, i should have took care of it earlier....but it was so much easier to drive with the warning lights on and not take it in. actually, come to think of it, i did take it in to a carX, but according to them their computers didnt have current software to support an '04 max...or maybe it was incompetence.....so i just kept driving, dreading a trip to the dealer.
all this happened just after my 60k mark...very interesting.
but what really sickened me about the shady dealer is that i needed the glass for my passenger mirror...literally just the glass....mirror housing still funtioned...folded in, could move the broken mirror around...these a-holes tried to get me to purchase an entire mirror housing, which, mind you, had to be painted to match for close to $500....i mean come on!!! i had previously ordered just the glass for only $70....but never went to pick it up....i know...i'm an idiot. i dont even know why i posted this.
the bottom line is these dealers just drum up stuff when sales are down. it's really disgusting. and to think we are bailing out all these auto makers who still continue to mismanage their money. i've always loved nissan maximas, had a '96 before my '04, but this has put a real sour taste in my mouth.
so reading this thread makes me ill. i had the abs problem too. all my lights went on about a year ago....abs was activating constantly and continued to worsen....like a fool i kept driving, had stuff to do, no time. finally abs was clicking and whirring with out even touching the brakes until whatever it was seemed to have burned out...all the sounds stopped but 4 different lights went on.......now they have been on for the past year...finally take it in a week ago and dealer comes back with a $3000 price tag to replace the sensors and abs actuator.....told them not to do it. they also claimed that the sensors were so corroded that they would have to drill them out and re-drill holes. took it to a well-known mom/pop place...they trouble shot for a couple days...replaced one sensor at a time...never one word about drilling anything out or re-tapping holes....i crossed my fingers, but i got the call earlier today that the actuator indeed needs to be replaced....but their price was around $2000 (sensors included)....expensive as hell, but a grand lighter than the dealer. i guess it's a lesson learned, i should have took care of it earlier....but it was so much easier to drive with the warning lights on and not take it in. actually, come to think of it, i did take it in to a carX, but according to them their computers didnt have current software to support an '04 max...or maybe it was incompetence.....so i just kept driving, dreading a trip to the dealer.
all this happened just after my 60k mark...very interesting.
but what really sickened me about the shady dealer is that i needed the glass for my passenger mirror...literally just the glass....mirror housing still funtioned...folded in, could move the broken mirror around...these a-holes tried to get me to purchase an entire mirror housing, which, mind you, had to be painted to match for close to $500....i mean come on!!! i had previously ordered just the glass for only $70....but never went to pick it up....i know...i'm an idiot. i dont even know why i posted this.
the bottom line is these dealers just drum up stuff when sales are down. it's really disgusting. and to think we are bailing out all these auto makers who still continue to mismanage their money. i've always loved nissan maximas, had a '96 before my '04, but this has put a real sour taste in my mouth.
I am having the same issue. Seems like the cold weather makes the noise worse. My problem is that I have an 08 with 18,000 miles on it (13 months old) and not an 04 like the first thread. Seems like Nissan still has a problem they can't figure out. Any suggestions on what to either replace or have Nissan check since I am under warranty still. Is the TSB NTB07-016B out there somewhere and does it effect the 08 also? I am NOT pulling any codes, CEL, ABS, nothing. Just an irratiting NOISE.
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hey i am having a steering issue.. i have maxima 3.5 2004 ... just started when i turn corners it seems harder to turn like power is off!!! there is no light sayin i have power steering problem!! what do i do? how do i know if i need fluid??? there is no nose or sounds.. just hard to turn and the wheel doesn't turn back i have to turn it back!!!!!
Sorry to hear about your dealer experience. I had one good dealership experience, and second time around (58 K) they just tried to milk me and ignored to do any work that would be considered within warranty. But they always seem to find problems that are not considered warranty
My wife and I have an 06 Max, an 06 Acura TL, and an 06 Hyundai Sonota. The max has the most mileage at 58k, the others @ 50K and 47K respectively. I absolutely love driving this car, however, Stock for stock, the Sonata has been the most solid and most reliable out of the three...and as far as bang for the buck, it just blows the other two away. The warranty too.//
When I first bought the max, I really thought that the 60K powertrain would suffice for a peace of mind being that it is a nissan, but after reading these posts, I am very worried about 3 things: brakes, transmission, and timing chain tensioner. They all seem to be high dollar fixes after warranty is out.
The sensor alone is like $130 and prob 1-1.5 hour labor for the Tsb, doubtful they're replacing the hub or anything else besides the sensor and plastic shield. With the TSB they don't just take the sensor out and clean it they take the whole system apart clean everything make a notch on the hub and reinstall with new shield and sensor. I just fixed mine per the the TSB in my driveway, wasn't that difficult just a biotch getting off the rotor and hub off. I followed the steps but didn't replace the sensor nor shield as I had no codes and they seemed fine. I also didn't have the heart to grind at the hub either but I put it all back together and abs prob is gone! Took me @ 3hours on the floor of my driveway with hand tools, if i had to do it again or I charged up the air compresor i am sure I could do it much faster. I have my fingers crossed but hopefully that is it. Just cost me some sore muscles and a 60+ degree day. For the record i did go to tech school, but with the tsb its pretty straight forward. Thanks for all the help/advice.
<< "...wasn't that difficult just a biotch getting off the rotor and hub off." >>
the rotor came off w/o too much straining, but I can't get the stinking hub to budge!! Tried running the 4 bolts partway out then banging them back towards hub with a hammer, but that thing ain't movin! How did you finally get yours off?
<< "...wasn't that difficult just a biotch getting off the rotor and hub off." >>
the rotor came off w/o too much straining, but I can't get the stinking hub to budge!! Tried running the 4 bolts partway out then banging them back towards hub with a hammer, but that thing ain't movin! How did you finally get yours off?
I mounted my wheel on the hub, and just kicked the tire. The hub came off pretty smoothly
I just performed the lazy man service to fix the ABS problem. My symptoms were:
ABS kicking in during low speed braking in which ABS action is not warranted. No lights were on (ABS or check engine)
I read all of the posts here and concluded that I was suffering from the same type of issue. I have a 2006 Nissan Maxima SE with 88,000 miles.
My steps:
1) Jacked car and removed passenger side rear wheel.
2) removed the 1 retaining bolt for the ABS Sensor.
3) Inspected the sensor and confirmed that it was covered with a thin coating of rust particles.
4) removed rust with a damp cloth to my satisfaction.
5) re-installed the sensor
6) Mounted wheel.
About a week before the behavior started for me I had replaced a broken wheel stud and when I hammered out the old one, I notice a great deal of rust coming from wheel bearing/hub assembly. I am pretty sure that is what triggered this problem for me. After test driving the car, the problem seems to be resolved. I will post an update in a couple of weeks.
wow i can't believe all these ppl have issues with the ABS. I am having this issue myself since the day I got it 2 years ago. under 20 mph when I brake the ABS starts up and pulses. The light does come on and it's annoying. I am attempted to go to the dealership and ask them to clean the sensors since i'm still under extended warranty. Sigh... we'll see how it goes
I am having this problem, even after replacing my broken hub assembly. I take it the simplest way is to just try to clean the sensors?? Do I need to necessarily jack the car up to clean them or is there a way I can see them w/o doing so to clean them?
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Ive responded a few times to this as I delt with the problem for a while before fixing it. he dealer did about $500 work and cleaned both hubs in the rear about a year ago, haven had the problem since, best $500 Ive spent on the car.
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needless to say i'm still having these issue and it's the exact same problem everyone is having in the 04,05. Brake under 20 mph . Abs comes on . starts to pulse for a few seconds and stops. My traction light comes on afterwards though. I'm having trouble getting my car out of park when I start my car. I wonder if it's due to these brake problems. I would have to press brake serveral times before I can engage into any other gear. I have a 05 SL w/ 75k . 500 bucks to fix that? ****... I also need to replace the wheel bearings in the passenger side as the roaring noise is getting louder. Plus need new tires lol i'm looking at 2k in maintance and repairs. Maybe it's time to trade this bad boy in.
At low speeds the ABS wheel sensor gets the lowest intensity signal. It's knobs of metal rotating through a magnetic field ( if it's like my '92). The faster these knobs rotate through the field, the stronger the signal is. This points towards a problem with the wheel sensor. Perhaps its full of dirt, but probably is a bad sensor. I had the same problem with my older car, I disconnected the connector for the brake sensor and put a multimeter on it and read resistance. Then I manipulated the ABS sensor wire and found that the reading bounced from the spec resistance to infinite, telling me there was a bad connection in the line. Replaced the wheel sensor and all was good.
I looked in the new Maxima so-called shop manual and found NO info on the 6th gen ABS brakes. Good Luck.
I take this back. The info on the ABS system in under "brake control system" in the manual. (who knew?)
How much was it for the sensor alone? i'm currently having this slight problem when i'm driving slow and when I hit the brakes. The driver's side seems to have some sort of pump or something that says makes a noise. When I turn off the car, the noise comes on again. The only thing recently done was a exhaust heatshield removed recently and being replaced when I can. I doubt removing the heatshields from your exhaust system should affect a car much, ideas?
There is a brake sensor assembly in our cars near the brakes. WHen you engage on the brake the sensor goes off to the transmission and brake system to turn on your brake lights and you can shift into gear.
Recently this sensor was going bad and I couldn't go into gear when in park. It was scary actually. I twisted the sensor and pulled it out of it's adapter and cleaned it up a bit. I also noticed that pressing down on the little sensor cause the abs to go off ( just like the same noise when I brake at lower mph) this means it's not our wheel hub sensors but maybe the brake assembly sensor.
I ordered a new brake sensor off courtesy parts website for 23 bucks. it's in the mail. I will post my findings to see if that will resolve our abs noise problems.
I had the brake sensor replaced last week and the ABS issues still come out. I just might have to do the TSB and clean the hubs like the earlier post. It's just annoying when it comes on and it could turn off buyers if your trying to sell.
Update: I got this problem fixed after I went to the dealership. They hooked up the ECU monitor computer to it. While the tech was braking the ECU didn't see it. He said he remounted the stop lamp assembly sensor again and went on a test again. No light has came on since time and the ABS noise is gone. Freaking A!!! After 2 dealers this dude finally got it.
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