Thanks for the memories guys, back to BMW
11-11-2007, 06:43 PM
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Good luck with the 3 Series Bimmer.
I can't imagine giving up my 6th Gen for a 3 series(not even an M3; too small for me), but I would luv to go 535i. Then again my Max has been good to me for 67K miles and has a good amount of power.
I can't imagine giving up my 6th Gen for a 3 series(not even an M3; too small for me), but I would luv to go 535i. Then again my Max has been good to me for 67K miles and has a good amount of power.
11-11-2007, 06:43 PM
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Actually with BFG G-force tires, OZ lightweight racing rims, D2 Racing Coilovers, Racingline front/rear endlinks, Stillen FUSB and Stillen rear anti-sway bar with 4 piston Wilwoods BBK front/back this car has awesome handling characteristics, not only in a straight line...
Only in a straight line.
11-11-2007, 08:09 PM
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fitting day i see your thread, carcus.... nov 11.....
welcome back.. iceland or greenland... i dont remember which....
congrats on the bmw.....
perhaps you shd. re-share a few pics of your old ride here... your post may have given the impression that you did not like the max... i remember ure car being one of the first "nicely" modded ones.....
welcome back.. iceland or greenland... i dont remember which....
congrats on the bmw.....
perhaps you shd. re-share a few pics of your old ride here... your post may have given the impression that you did not like the max... i remember ure car being one of the first "nicely" modded ones.....
11-11-2007, 08:25 PM
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fitting day i see your thread, carcus.... nov 11.....
welcome back.. iceland or greenland... i dont remember which....
congrats on the bmw.....
perhaps you shd. re-share a few pics of your old ride here... your post may have given the impression that you did not like the max... i remember ure car being one of the first "nicely" modded ones.....
welcome back.. iceland or greenland... i dont remember which....
congrats on the bmw.....
perhaps you shd. re-share a few pics of your old ride here... your post may have given the impression that you did not like the max... i remember ure car being one of the first "nicely" modded ones.....
Exactly!
But you're the expert!
11-11-2007, 11:13 PM
#48
Good luck with your new ride, I would not have gone for a 325 but I've driven one through the twisties and any car that can do 90plus on a mountain road that has a 35mph limit is OK in my book
just that rush of rocketing past other cars that can't even attempt to keep up is worth the price of the car
just that rush of rocketing past other cars that can't even attempt to keep up is worth the price of the car
11-12-2007, 12:41 PM
#51
I'm with you, I need the raw power, hell if BMW sold a stripped out 335i with nothing but the basic I would hop on board
11-12-2007, 01:41 PM
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11-12-2007, 04:47 PM
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I could condone going to a 335i, i personally need the ponies and its one of the many things that lets me forget some of the annoying things like turning radius and a few electronic quirks.
And for the sentra......I think the guy before me says all you need.
11-18-2007, 05:38 AM
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With the right suspension upgrades, a Maxima can come very close to M3 handling. BMW has spent the time and money to have a phenomenal rwd platform straight from the factory. To be able to slap some aftermarket struts, springs, and a sway bar on a fwd car and even come near BMW's ride quality is a credit to Nissan. The Maxima is a great car for what it is as well as what it has the potential to be.
11-18-2007, 06:17 AM
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With the right suspension upgrades, a Maxima can come very close to M3 handling. BMW has spent the time and money to have a phenomenal rwd platform straight from the factory. To be able to slap some aftermarket struts, springs, and a sway bar on a fwd car and even come near BMW's ride quality is a credit to Nissan. The Maxima is a great car for what it is as well as what it has the potential to be.
) has been able to escape me... 
If we're on a highway rolling and not on a take off (FWD
) it's hard for sons a *****es to get away from me, I mostly tend to slap the a$$hole only drivers around because they put people in danger and need to be taught a little street justice sometimes. Least of all they never expect it, I won't be owned by driver pr!cks... Oh did I mention the 370+whp Turbo...
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11-18-2007, 12:07 PM
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With the right suspension upgrades, a Maxima can come very close to M3 handling. BMW has spent the time and money to have a phenomenal rwd platform straight from the factory. To be able to slap some aftermarket struts, springs, and a sway bar on a fwd car and even come near BMW's ride quality is a credit to Nissan. The Maxima is a great car for what it is as well as what it has the potential to be.
Don't forget tires! BMW doesn't cheap out on tires either, they add it to the price tag.
11-18-2007, 06:49 PM
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you took my comment the wrong way. i love maximas and was saying that starting by upgrading just 3 components you can nearly match stock bmw handling, which in my book is pretty impressive and is a testament to nissan's engineering. i was diagreeing with people like sickse, for example, who seem to be saying that a bmw's handling can't be paralleled or surpassed by a car like the maxima.
11-18-2007, 08:46 PM
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you took my comment the wrong way. i love maximas and was saying that starting by upgrading just 3 components you can nearly match stock bmw handling, which in my book is pretty impressive and is a testament to nissan's engineering. i was diagreeing with people like sickse, for example, who seem to be saying that a bmw's handling can't be paralleled or surpassed by a car like the maxima.
11-18-2007, 09:53 PM
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you took my comment the wrong way. i love maximas and was saying that starting by upgrading just 3 components you can nearly match stock bmw handling, which in my book is pretty impressive and is a testament to nissan's engineering. i was diagreeing with people like sickse, for example, who seem to be saying that a bmw's handling can't be paralleled or surpassed by a car like the maxima.
11-18-2007, 11:11 PM
#62
With the right suspension upgrades, a Maxima can come very close to M3 handling. BMW has spent the time and money to have a phenomenal rwd platform straight from the factory. To be able to slap some aftermarket struts, springs, and a sway bar on a fwd car and even come near BMW's ride quality is a credit to Nissan. The Maxima is a great car for what it is as well as what it has the potential to be.
We are glad you're here. It's always nice when someone joins who recognizes the versility of the 6th Gen maxima. HUGE bang for the buck, and the ability to wear more than a few faces in automobile world (performance, comfort, attitude, reliabilty, safety, ect...).
With enough money, one can most definetly beat out the Maxima except for "bang-for-the-buck". The last category is where the Maxima shines.
Like you eloquently stated, a few Mods and you're close to BMW 3 series handling but will outrun it while sipping on your 'latte (except for the very expensive M3 & 335I). I love BMW's. I just hate what you get for the money. The G37 in most ways, is a better car than the 335I (turbo runs hella hot according to Motor Trend-just a mere 40 degress less than shut down) but cost about 6G's less.
Lets face it-you say BMW and "sick" people like "SE" start breathing heavy and sweating. This of course leads to pre-mature rhetoric and statements like "Bimmer is a work of art and is perfection when it comes to handling".
Yes "Perfection", like it is impossible to handle better. Forget "4WS", forget, midengine euro cars, forget AMG Mercedes, hell forget everything. It's a freakin' BMW-case closed!!!
Whenever I see a BMW 3 series in the rear view mirror wanting to challenge my poor Maxima (especially if I see a turn coming up), I just hopelessly move to right and appreciate the fact that I was forewarned by "Sick" not to even try to keep up. God forbid trying to out park them.
Thanks "SE".
11-19-2007, 12:19 AM
#64
BMW are sweet but lets remember that they have enthusiast to, every make has morons that think just because, I'm sure some of the guys who set their 6th Gens up on these Maxima boards would be no different then if they owned anything else.
Everyday I wonder WTH some people are doing behind the wheel of certain cars, pisses me off when a car that can handle slows to a crawl to take the on ramp to the highway, and then the person comes to an almost dead stop before merging into a 70mph traffic flow doing 25mph and then they take off
but lets remember that they have enthusiast to, every make has morons that think just because, I'm sure some of the guys who set their 6th Gens up on these Maxima boards would be no different then if they owned anything else.Everyday I wonder WTH some people are doing behind the wheel of certain cars, pisses me off when a car that can handle slows to a crawl to take the on ramp to the highway, and then the person comes to an almost dead stop before merging into a 70mph traffic flow doing 25mph and then they take off
11-19-2007, 03:16 PM
#65
Here is a link to "Motor Trends" which car is the best handling right off the show room floor. I think you guys will find it interesting.
Out of the the ten that were tested the BMW placed 6th. The Z06 susprisingly (or maybe not suprisingly) got ripped apart on handling.
The "EVO" and the "Mini Cooper" really held thier own. Check it out...
http://www.motortrend.com/features/1...t_handling_car
Out of the the ten that were tested the BMW placed 6th. The Z06 susprisingly (or maybe not suprisingly) got ripped apart on handling.
The "EVO" and the "Mini Cooper" really held thier own. Check it out...
http://www.motortrend.com/features/1...t_handling_car
11-19-2007, 04:45 PM
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Regards with no hate. Celebrate.....
If you are in Colorado Springs, blow by me, gas and tickets cost too much. I have the Stang for the track if I want to race. Talk about cheap mods for speed.....the 5.0 has them all.
11-20-2007, 08:03 AM
#67
Carcus - I went back to BMW as well. No shame, the MAX is a good looking car with good straight line speed and the guys on the org are great. I keep checking back to see if mods have come up. Chern is doing great things with his turbo setup and everyones cars look great.
BUT I went to an M3 - it's absolutely 100X more exciting to drive than the MAX. No way ANY of the max's here hang in the canyons - no way. One of the best handling cars on the planet at any price point.
Keep up the good work here though - I love the mods
BUT I went to an M3 - it's absolutely 100X more exciting to drive than the MAX. No way ANY of the max's here hang in the canyons - no way. One of the best handling cars on the planet at any price point.
Keep up the good work here though - I love the mods
11-21-2007, 07:19 PM
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My bad guys. I've actually been reading the forums here since about September '05 when I got my '97 Max. I think I've just gotten used to seeing "n00bs" get ripped apart and I assumed I was just getting sarcastic remarks for that reason.
Thanks, and I'm with you 100% on "bang-for-the-buck" being the Maxima's strongest point... the VQ alone is worth the price of admission. I hold that with decent mods a Maxima will handle better than a stock BMW (including M3, M5, etc.), because the only thing that will always differentiate them is RWD vs. FWD. And with the right modifications the difference is pretty hard to notice.
I hear you... Last week I got to a stoplight and came up behind a 330i in the left lane. The light turned green and he got on it, so I jumped in the right lane and gave him a sample of the "M-Power"... then as we're approaching the ramps to the interstate he gives me the ricer fly-by, swerves into the right lane in front of me, jerks back out into the left and continues to drive like an assclown while darting very dangerously through the heavier traffic up ahead. Sometimes I wonder...
Thanks, and I'm with you 100% on "bang-for-the-buck" being the Maxima's strongest point... the VQ alone is worth the price of admission. I hold that with decent mods a Maxima will handle better than a stock BMW (including M3, M5, etc.), because the only thing that will always differentiate them is RWD vs. FWD. And with the right modifications the difference is pretty hard to notice.
I hear you... Last week I got to a stoplight and came up behind a 330i in the left lane. The light turned green and he got on it, so I jumped in the right lane and gave him a sample of the "M-Power"... then as we're approaching the ramps to the interstate he gives me the ricer fly-by, swerves into the right lane in front of me, jerks back out into the left and continues to drive like an assclown while darting very dangerously through the heavier traffic up ahead. Sometimes I wonder...
11-28-2007, 03:23 PM
#71
i work for a bmw dealership and when I get the chance once day my max will be traded in for one. probably a 330 sedan. tad slower but on the road makes the max feel like a boat . . I LOVE my maxima though. . no doubt . . the only thing that will keep me off of a bmw is if i really like the 7th gen. but still . . BMW customer relations is way better than Nissan. So thats a kind of a turn off . . well see. good luck with the bimmer though!
06-21-2009, 09:37 PM
#76
Sorry, you completely missed my point. One cannot compare the turning radii of two cars of sizes as different as a maxima and bmw 3 series. Thats like comparing apples to oranges. A bmw 3 series is of the size of a sentra, in fact lesser in length, so they can be compared.
It is shameful how such a small and pricey car like bmw 3 series cannot beat the turning radius of a car like the sentra that costs less than half of the price of a bmw 3 series. People who say that the bmw 3 series can turn on a dime most probably call a one dollar coin a dime (which is understable for bmw 3 series buyers because that is the value for money one gets by buying that car).
The not-so-good turning radius of a maxima is well known but that does NOT make it comparable to a sentra-like sized bmw 3 series. Learn to compare apples to apples -- that simply was my point and you missed it.
If you want to prove the not-so-good turning radius of a maxima (which no one argues by the way), compare it to an avalon which is bigger in size with lesser turning radius. But by no means to a bmw 3-series.
It is shameful how such a small and pricey car like bmw 3 series cannot beat the turning radius of a car like the sentra that costs less than half of the price of a bmw 3 series. People who say that the bmw 3 series can turn on a dime most probably call a one dollar coin a dime (which is understable for bmw 3 series buyers because that is the value for money one gets by buying that car).
The not-so-good turning radius of a maxima is well known but that does NOT make it comparable to a sentra-like sized bmw 3 series. Learn to compare apples to apples -- that simply was my point and you missed it.
If you want to prove the not-so-good turning radius of a maxima (which no one argues by the way), compare it to an avalon which is bigger in size with lesser turning radius. But by no means to a bmw 3-series.
06-22-2009, 08:33 AM
#78
With the right suspension upgrades, a Maxima can come very close to M3 handling. BMW has spent the time and money to have a phenomenal rwd platform straight from the factory. To be able to slap some aftermarket struts, springs, and a sway bar on a fwd car and even come near BMW's ride quality is a credit to Nissan. The Maxima is a great car for what it is as well as what it has the potential to be.
For comparisons like this though... stock vs. stock... IMO...
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