philoforlife

Check out these two different pictures of the rear endlinks installation. One is from Prjctmax and one is from cyclops (I believe):




In the first one the endlink is mounted on the outside of the swaybar, in the second, its mounted on the inside???

Which is the correct way?

Joshua

TAZ

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Because there are multiple suspension setups there really isn't a wrong way in terms of in or outboard. Just as long as they are put in a straight (vertically as possible).

ramberg

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This is how it looks on my car.

VigilanteMax

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I believe one of those is the stock sway bar and the other progress, so there would be a difference.

philoforlife

Both are Progress.

Joshua

cyclopsmd

Thanks for the credit, but those aren't my pictures. I have a stillen RSB, and I installed my endlinks inside (to the rear of) the swaybar. That top picture makes me nervous with the endlink being so close to the brake line. Probably won't touch, but I am kind of a freak about brakes....

Mack

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Isn't the top pic from Chern's ride?

philoforlife

Prjctmax, but Chern did the same thing.

Joshua

philoforlife

I installed today. Not as easy as it would see (for me). Couldn't get the bolts to get the stock endlinks off of the frame, so I had to unbolt the piece that bolts to the frame off to get off the stock sway bar. Then had to burn out the bearing and use vice grips to hold it while I took off the nut. Almost put the new RSB on backwards.

Luckily, after screaming "NOOB" under the car for about an hour, I got it done. Car handles phenomenal. Progress RSB and rear endlinks are certainly the way to go.

Thank you Taz.

Joshua

ramberg

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Chermax has a Stillen RSB.

cyclopsmd

hahahahahahahhahahaha - I had the same problem when I put in my RSB for the first time! Those stupid stock endlinks were melted on there, it seemed. I had to use one of those special Bolt-Out sockets to remove the nut, because I stripped it from trying to break the stupid thing loose! I, however, screamed much worse things than NOOB and almost gave myself away (you see, I am married to a woman who thinks all of these upgrades are for 17 year olds, so I have to try to hide all of my mods from her )

Mack

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I feel your pain brother...

Mack

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Guys, I'm putting on my links now. However I was curious, in this shot it shows the washer going between the rubber element and the swaybar. However I put my washer on the outside of the swaybar (that way the rubber element is between the endlink and the swaybar). Does this matter much? I haven't taken it for a drive yet but that just seemed the most logical to me. Taz, any comments here?

chernmax

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My rear sway is STILLEN...

chernmax

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The racing bushing kit I bought states to install them that way, I also have a washer on the opposite side on the sway bar before the nut. I used stainless 3-1/2 inch grade 8 bolts.

chernmax

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That bottom picture does not look very vertical for max energy transfer to the sway...

Mack

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Thanks Chern. Just before I came up to read this I actually went looking for some extra washers in order to have them on both sides as well. Thanks man!

philoforlife

Sorry about confusing your sway bars Chern

I agree. I put mine on like the top picture.

Joshua

TAZ

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You do not need to put an extra washer. The reason the ES ones come like that is because they are meant for cars that install like this:

Mack

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Hmm, ok I couldn't find any extra washers. I put the endlinks on as in the picture of them with the red bushings. It feels as if there should've been an extra set of washers to put between the swaybar (bottom) and the mount (top) as well instead of mounting the nut flush against them. I may pick some up at some point to put on there.

Otherwise these babies are certainly MUCHO higher quality than stock. Fronts next!

TAZ

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the washer supplied is supposed to go with the nut. the bushing mounts to the sway bar directly

Mack

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Damn, I wish you would have mentioned that an hour ago. So I guess my initial instincts to have the bushing sit softly against the swaybar was correct. Man, I shoulda just went with that. Thanks Taz....

One last question. I'm assuming the bushings will expand and contract a bit. Should I go back in, in a week or two to re-tighten everything?

philoforlife

In reference to the re-tightening, yes you should. I'd give it a full two weeks.

Joshua

Mack

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Awesome. Thanks Josh.

philoforlife

No problem. If you do go with the TS reflash, PM me the results - I'd love to see how much power you've made.

Joshua

sloonz

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Taz,

Any reason why Racingline didn't use heim spacers instead of urethane bushings?

Mack

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LOL I think you posted in the wrong thread bro. But I get ya...

TAZ

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2 reasons:

-spacers leave the hiem bearing exposed, meaning it'll wear alot faster, especially for northern regions where snow exists.

-the bushing, while adding longevity also add a little extra stiffness to the hiem allowing it to respond even faster.

RHMax

I'm geting some clicking noise when I go up an down drive ways. Any tricks to get rid of it?

TAZ

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V1 or V2, washer with bushing or with nut?

RHMax

v2, washer w/ nut. Only get the noise when going slow on uneven surface.

VigilanteMax

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When I first initiated the ES upgrade and posted the results, I thought my troubles were over. Either Im taking turns at 90 degrees at 90 MPH or Im just unlucky. Ive got V2s on order and am re doing the whole back with my progress. The washer is not needed on the bar itself Mack as directed.

sloonz

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Makes sense...thanks

cyclopsmd

I had that same problem when I had the V1 endlinks - I couldn't tighten them down enough. I bet you just don't have it snugged down enough... My noise went away when I upgraded to the v2 endlinks... The bolts I had with the v1 endlinks weren't threaded all the way, so I couldn't get the bushings compressed enough (at least that is my theory). Have you tried tightening them down some?

xoomer.com

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I still have this unresolved and am currently on OEM endlinks. Couldn't stand the noise anymore. I had V1 setup and its just laying in the basement. TAZ whats is the fix for this and can you provide support?