poll results are conflicted - don't correspond with the replies.. they contradict each other.. could be confusing. as to why this is different compared to the replies i dont know
just trying to simply see which outweighs the other in terms of positive response to neg. clearly the Cefiros win on that it looks like from the replies, yet they are even in the polls with the R34's. and,
obviously with projectors is better, I know this. And many of you think that you shouldnt bother getting hid's without them, ok. However that
wasnt my
main question was it,
I'm aware of that but I was going to give it a shot
without projectors anyway. And if it ended up not being to my liking at all, then so be it, i'd have to go with projectors then i guess.
However, because of the outcome of this thread and some others about R34's vs Cefiros I have chosen to not go with any of these, for various reasons. Not only for HID later but because they look like **** with halo's even (least the R34's do). Just look nice in the day time.
With that said, I'm going to try a different approach, see new thread, im going for day time aesthetics - if output isn't compromised (this is with regular bulbs not hid) - so if any of you have
comments that conducive to the exact topic being discussed in that thread at least, please no digression if you can help it, post away.
Heres the link.

thanks for all of your input, seriously