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i put a 8000k bixenon kit on my max and it did improve light output. i agree that projectors will give u better beam and output but i think what the rest of the people without projectors are trying to say that the HIDs did improve their lighting, even if its not as good as projectors. and by the way i wouldnt mind doing a retrofit i just dont have the skills necessary to do it, not yet anyways....
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 Scoobz 
95 Maxima SE *sold 9-16-08*
06 Sentra SE *til i buy my next MAX*
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