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The problems w/ Hawks is so widespread and is as common as those that love the pads. Because I don't gamble, I went w/ Akebono last fall and have been very happy w/ them. I was one who debated brand of pads for a long time...i wanted great pads and zero noise and was not confident that the hawks would provide that considering all that I have read on them, even if i did follow the bed-in procedure to the T.
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