A-pillar tweeter
#1
2 questions:
how does one remove the A-pillar to reveal the tweeter??
what size is the tweeter?
curious to find out what brand of speaker component sets others have used and how hard was it to wire and mount the tweets??
how does one remove the A-pillar to reveal the tweeter??
what size is the tweeter?
curious to find out what brand of speaker component sets others have used and how hard was it to wire and mount the tweets??
#2
The A-Pillar comes off by using a trim wedge, or regular screwdriver (be careful) by prying it away from the window at the top. It then pulls out from the bottom half. Putting it back in works in reverse (seat the bottom half in first, and snap it in all the way up to the top).
The stock tweeters are horrible. I dont recall 100%, but I think they were made by Clarion or something.. They are made mostly of paper, and are about as big as a quarter. These things couldnt produce a crisp tweet if they tried. I replaced mine with Polk audio components, which fit in perfectly.
The 6.5's for the door required a little plastic work to squeeze them in though..
The stock tweeters are horrible. I dont recall 100%, but I think they were made by Clarion or something.. They are made mostly of paper, and are about as big as a quarter. These things couldnt produce a crisp tweet if they tried. I replaced mine with Polk audio components, which fit in perfectly.
The 6.5's for the door required a little plastic work to squeeze them in though..
#3
yeah the tweets are clarion
if u wanna spend ome money go with dynaudio 3 way components. don't mount the tweets there. you dont' need to take em' out either. just build a kick panel and mount everything there. or u can have the same set up as what i'm going to have.. illusion audio horns, illusion audio carbon-nd 8.1 midbass. it'll b cheaper and sounds better.. or just different. but u gotta aim the horns real good.
#4
I don't want to build in kick panels since I rely heavily on the dead pedal when driving fast thru turns. (not enough seat bolstering) So this isn't an option.
I'd like to stay w/ 2-way components.
To the person who used Polk Audio components: How big of a space is there for the tweeter location? Were your tweeters 1" in diameter? Also how deep of a 'pocket' is there?
As for the 6 1/2" in the door panel, how much cutting am I gonna have to do to get these to fit? Plus, and more importantly, how deep is the space in there?
Basically I'm looking to use Boston Pro Series components, and from what I can gather, they seem to need deepermounting wells than normal.
thanks for all the info
I'd like to stay w/ 2-way components.
To the person who used Polk Audio components: How big of a space is there for the tweeter location? Were your tweeters 1" in diameter? Also how deep of a 'pocket' is there?
As for the 6 1/2" in the door panel, how much cutting am I gonna have to do to get these to fit? Plus, and more importantly, how deep is the space in there?
Basically I'm looking to use Boston Pro Series components, and from what I can gather, they seem to need deepermounting wells than normal.
thanks for all the info
#5
I'm not 100% sure of the depths etc, but the polk components use 1" tweeters.. and like I say, they fit perfectly.
The reason I had to cut for plastic for the 6.5 in the front door was to use the 3rd mounting screw which didnt match up perfectly. There was plenty of depth in the door..
The reason I had to cut for plastic for the 6.5 in the front door was to use the 3rd mounting screw which didnt match up perfectly. There was plenty of depth in the door..
#6
I don't have my system anymore
but when I had it in my 2K I had the tweets on the little plastic triange piece on the front Door.. 1 on each side. was running Premier components in front and Pioneer Components in rear. Mounted the rear tweeter on the B-piller faceing the back.. (What'd U think I was running, SONY)?
#7
simple swap
I have a pair of MB Quart components from my last car and system. Is it possible to simlpy swap these with the exsisting front speakers. Or would I need some kind of interfacing component. If this can be done where would I wire up the MB Quart x-overs? I have the Bose stereo right now (until I have the money for a real system). Thanks
#8
I removed the A-pillar trim last weekend to run my mirror wires up/down there. I grabbed the edge of the A-pillar trim and the top, and gently pulled it towards the steering wheel. There are two snap type clips which are holding it secure. After that, the part closest to the windshield is sort of wedged down in there.
Look at my A-pillar pics here and you can see how I first pried it back: http://www.fourthrock.com/maxima/mirrorinstall/
Also, look at the picture labeled "Running wires up A-pillar" to see what it looks like completely removed, along with a sneak prevue of what the tweeter looks like.
Good luck
Look at my A-pillar pics here and you can see how I first pried it back: http://www.fourthrock.com/maxima/mirrorinstall/
Also, look at the picture labeled "Running wires up A-pillar" to see what it looks like completely removed, along with a sneak prevue of what the tweeter looks like.
Good luck
#9
Originally posted by mdeal
I removed the A-pillar trim last weekend to run my mirror wires up/down there. I grabbed the edge of the A-pillar trim and the top, and gently pulled it towards the steering wheel. There are two snap type clips which are holding it secure. After that, the part closest to the windshield is sort of wedged down in there.
Look at my A-pillar pics here and you can see how I first pried it back: http://www.fourthrock.com/maxima/mirrorinstall/
I removed the A-pillar trim last weekend to run my mirror wires up/down there. I grabbed the edge of the A-pillar trim and the top, and gently pulled it towards the steering wheel. There are two snap type clips which are holding it secure. After that, the part closest to the windshield is sort of wedged down in there.
Look at my A-pillar pics here and you can see how I first pried it back: http://www.fourthrock.com/maxima/mirrorinstall/
#10
Re: simple swap
Originally posted by Mikesmaxatl
I have a pair of MB Quart components from my last car and system. Is it possible to simlpy swap these with the exsisting front speakers. Or would I need some kind of interfacing component. If this can be done where would I wire up the MB Quart x-overs? I have the Bose stereo right now (until I have the money for a real system). Thanks
I have a pair of MB Quart components from my last car and system. Is it possible to simlpy swap these with the exsisting front speakers. Or would I need some kind of interfacing component. If this can be done where would I wire up the MB Quart x-overs? I have the Bose stereo right now (until I have the money for a real system). Thanks
#11
Re: Re: simple swap
Originally posted by killrwheels
Each BOSE speaker is amplified and interfaces with head unit. You would need to purchase line level input outputs prior to replacing speakers. Honestly more effective to save $$$ and then replace all at once. BOSE is not the worst system out.......If only it came with a true subwoofer !!
Each BOSE speaker is amplified and interfaces with head unit. You would need to purchase line level input outputs prior to replacing speakers. Honestly more effective to save $$$ and then replace all at once. BOSE is not the worst system out.......If only it came with a true subwoofer !!
#12
Re: Re: simple swap
Originally posted by killrwheels
Each BOSE speaker is amplified and interfaces with head unit. You would need to purchase line level input outputs prior to replacing speakers. Honestly more effective to save $$$ and then replace all at once. BOSE is not the worst system out.......If only it came with a true subwoofer !!
Each BOSE speaker is amplified and interfaces with head unit. You would need to purchase line level input outputs prior to replacing speakers. Honestly more effective to save $$$ and then replace all at once. BOSE is not the worst system out.......If only it came with a true subwoofer !!
#13
nice pictures!
Very high-quality pics! What kind of camera did you use?
Originally posted by mdeal
I removed the A-pillar trim last weekend to run my mirror wires up/down there. I grabbed the edge of the A-pillar trim and the top, and gently pulled it towards the steering wheel. There are two snap type clips which are holding it secure. After that, the part closest to the windshield is sort of wedged down in there.
Look at my A-pillar pics here and you can see how I first pried it back: http://www.fourthrock.com/maxima/mirrorinstall/
Also, look at the picture labeled "Running wires up A-pillar" to see what it looks like completely removed, along with a sneak prevue of what the tweeter looks like.
Good luck
I removed the A-pillar trim last weekend to run my mirror wires up/down there. I grabbed the edge of the A-pillar trim and the top, and gently pulled it towards the steering wheel. There are two snap type clips which are holding it secure. After that, the part closest to the windshield is sort of wedged down in there.
Look at my A-pillar pics here and you can see how I first pried it back: http://www.fourthrock.com/maxima/mirrorinstall/
Also, look at the picture labeled "Running wires up A-pillar" to see what it looks like completely removed, along with a sneak prevue of what the tweeter looks like.
Good luck
#14
Building kicks does not require you to build a large kick infact they can sit back in more than the factory kick panel...i have my full dead pedel. Hit my web site to see a pic of the one kick.
If your looking for nice nice speakers cheap i have a friend selling orion hcca 6.5 componets that he used soley in a non driven car for comp for about 2 months. They retail for 800 bucks he is letting them go for around 300. Email me if your interested and i'll hook you up with him.
Dyn audio is nice. So is illusion but there horns arn't as clear as i would like without alot of tuning.
If your looking for nice nice speakers cheap i have a friend selling orion hcca 6.5 componets that he used soley in a non driven car for comp for about 2 months. They retail for 800 bucks he is letting them go for around 300. Email me if your interested and i'll hook you up with him.
Dyn audio is nice. So is illusion but there horns arn't as clear as i would like without alot of tuning.
#15
yo fellas, need advise here. I have a GXE, my A-pillar panels do not have tweeters behind them. What are my options in terms of mounting tweeters? Someone above said using the kick panels..Where do you get that, how much$, and any pics? Any other pics who had the custom install on tweeters on 5th gen, or 6x9s on rear shelf?
#16
Re: Re: simple swap
Originally posted by killrwheels
Each BOSE speaker is amplified and interfaces with head unit. You would need to purchase line level input outputs prior to replacing speakers. Honestly more effective to save $$$ and then replace all at once. BOSE is not the worst system out.......If only it came with a true subwoofer !!
Each BOSE speaker is amplified and interfaces with head unit. You would need to purchase line level input outputs prior to replacing speakers. Honestly more effective to save $$$ and then replace all at once. BOSE is not the worst system out.......If only it came with a true subwoofer !!
#17
Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R
yo fellas, need advise here. I have a GXE, my A-pillar panels do not have tweeters behind them. What are my options in terms of mounting tweeters? Someone above said using the kick panels..Where do you get that, how much$, and any pics? Any other pics who had the custom install on tweeters on 5th gen, or 6x9s on rear shelf?
yo fellas, need advise here. I have a GXE, my A-pillar panels do not have tweeters behind them. What are my options in terms of mounting tweeters? Someone above said using the kick panels..Where do you get that, how much$, and any pics? Any other pics who had the custom install on tweeters on 5th gen, or 6x9s on rear shelf?
#18
Originally posted by max'n out
To put a tweeter in a gxe piller just use a whole saw to make the hole then custom mount it. You can put them in the kick. You can get q form kick panels for about 200 bucks. Custom ones range from 100-3000 depending what you wanna do. But your prob looking at 200-300. I acuallly have the a piller out of a gxe so we could mount the tweet in a way we wanted so it's easy to do. It's fully molded in.
To put a tweeter in a gxe piller just use a whole saw to make the hole then custom mount it. You can put them in the kick. You can get q form kick panels for about 200 bucks. Custom ones range from 100-3000 depending what you wanna do. But your prob looking at 200-300. I acuallly have the a piller out of a gxe so we could mount the tweet in a way we wanted so it's easy to do. It's fully molded in.
#19
Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R
oh I see...I guess tweeters are sold with grilles, just like the speakers, right? do you have any pics? I am actually looking @ budget options. From what you said, kickpanels kick azz expensive. Crutchfield has tweeters starting from 49.99 a pair.
oh I see...I guess tweeters are sold with grilles, just like the speakers, right? do you have any pics? I am actually looking @ budget options. From what you said, kickpanels kick azz expensive. Crutchfield has tweeters starting from 49.99 a pair.
#20
hmm I dont mind a good sound, but not into competition, too good for student's budget. There're so much options out there, I just dont believe in putting $5,000 worth of stereo in smthg you get from A to B.
#21
Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R
hmm I dont mind a good sound, but not into competition, too good for student's budget. There're so much options out there, I just dont believe in putting $5,000 worth of stereo in smthg you get from A to B.
hmm I dont mind a good sound, but not into competition, too good for student's budget. There're so much options out there, I just dont believe in putting $5,000 worth of stereo in smthg you get from A to B.
#22
Originally posted by max'n out
I'm a poor college student too,well i am now. and 5k not gonna touch a ult comp system. Also it's not gonna cost you 5k to do a nice sounding system. I say drop about 1k-2k and your gonna have some good sound.
I'm a poor college student too,well i am now. and 5k not gonna touch a ult comp system. Also it's not gonna cost you 5k to do a nice sounding system. I say drop about 1k-2k and your gonna have some good sound.
#23
Has anyone specifically replaced the front tweeters and door speakers on a 2k+ without making any other mods? Did it work? I pulled my front pillars, 02' SE, and found the cheesy Clarion tweeter as rated 4 ohms. Someone earlier in this thread indicated that the door speakers may also be 4 ohms, I have not checked yet. If so, a swap should be easy, maybe MB Quartz Ref's.
I have already added an interface (linkmeup.com), RF Amp, and two 10's in a custom fiber glass box (sweet). The interface was routed to a Coustic X-over with F/R/Sub outs. However, until I take the time to add another amp and rerun GOOD speaker wire to the front, I would like to upgrade the front speakers.
If the fronts are factory amped at 4 ohms, then a front swap to a good set of $180-$300 speakers should give an incredible improvement.
I have already added an interface (linkmeup.com), RF Amp, and two 10's in a custom fiber glass box (sweet). The interface was routed to a Coustic X-over with F/R/Sub outs. However, until I take the time to add another amp and rerun GOOD speaker wire to the front, I would like to upgrade the front speakers.
If the fronts are factory amped at 4 ohms, then a front swap to a good set of $180-$300 speakers should give an incredible improvement.
#24
Originally posted by max'n out
To put a tweeter in a gxe piller just use a whole saw to make the hole then custom mount it. You can put them in the kick. You can get q form kick panels for about 200 bucks. Custom ones range from 100-3000 depending what you wanna do. But your prob looking at 200-300. I acuallly have the a piller out of a gxe so we could mount the tweet in a way we wanted so it's easy to do. It's fully molded in.
To put a tweeter in a gxe piller just use a whole saw to make the hole then custom mount it. You can put them in the kick. You can get q form kick panels for about 200 bucks. Custom ones range from 100-3000 depending what you wanna do. But your prob looking at 200-300. I acuallly have the a piller out of a gxe so we could mount the tweet in a way we wanted so it's easy to do. It's fully molded in.
Max
#26
Yes, standard 4 ohm speakers will work in place of the factory speakers located in the front doors.
I installed MB Quartz References Series in my 2k2 last night. Incredible difference! I popped off the door panels, removed the old 6 1/2, cut the factory leads and ran it to the crossover. I installed the new Tweeter in the small traingular, plastic corner piece at the front of the door/top of panel (surface mount) and kept the factory tweeter. I did not want to run new wire to the MB tweeter if mounted outside the door. The crossovers for the MB's are VERY big. However, they fit perfectly with velcro self stick in the gap on the inside of the door panel just under the top of the door arm rest toward the front.
I got a deal on the speakers, I think, $199.00. The install took about 1 1/2 hours. Great detail and clarity compared to stock.
I would be happy to give suggestions for anyone looking to do the same swap. It is well worth it.
I installed MB Quartz References Series in my 2k2 last night. Incredible difference! I popped off the door panels, removed the old 6 1/2, cut the factory leads and ran it to the crossover. I installed the new Tweeter in the small traingular, plastic corner piece at the front of the door/top of panel (surface mount) and kept the factory tweeter. I did not want to run new wire to the MB tweeter if mounted outside the door. The crossovers for the MB's are VERY big. However, they fit perfectly with velcro self stick in the gap on the inside of the door panel just under the top of the door arm rest toward the front.
I got a deal on the speakers, I think, $199.00. The install took about 1 1/2 hours. Great detail and clarity compared to stock.
I would be happy to give suggestions for anyone looking to do the same swap. It is well worth it.
#30
Originally posted by mhgsx
2 questions:
how does one remove the A-pillar to reveal the tweeter??
what size is the tweeter?
curious to find out what brand of speaker component sets others have used and how hard was it to wire and mount the tweets??
2 questions:
how does one remove the A-pillar to reveal the tweeter??
what size is the tweeter?
curious to find out what brand of speaker component sets others have used and how hard was it to wire and mount the tweets??
#34
NO GO ON JUST SPEAKER SWAPING!!!
BOSE uses a 1ohm system and after market speakers are 4ohm and 8ohm.. so using them in this system would cause the following.. i know i did it...
= speaker volume will diminish to less then half volume. amps will get hot and then cut off.
I assume bose paid there help more money to make it hard to work with then to actually make it sound good. SORRY TO BRAKE THE NEWS TO YOU GUYS. ( my family is AL & Ed;s employees so this is real world info ). JMA in CALI.
= speaker volume will diminish to less then half volume. amps will get hot and then cut off.
I assume bose paid there help more money to make it hard to work with then to actually make it sound good. SORRY TO BRAKE THE NEWS TO YOU GUYS. ( my family is AL & Ed;s employees so this is real world info ). JMA in CALI.
#35
Just to be clear...
So... replacing the tweeters on a 2002 w/ bose is not possible, while replacing the tweeters on the base setup is? That is a shame... as I notice the weak tweeters on the bose system too.
Thanks.
So... replacing the tweeters on a 2002 w/ bose is not possible, while replacing the tweeters on the base setup is? That is a shame... as I notice the weak tweeters on the bose system too.
Thanks.
#36
no, you cant replace the other speakers.. but the tweeters are 4ohm.. Thats what allows you to swap them. There are other more informative posts on this. It was a nice improvement to me. No harm to Bose amp. Again, the tweeters are standard clarion 4ohm drivers. The rest are .5-1 ohm.
#38
doe they make better aftermarket 1ohm speakers to upgrade the bose cones in all four doors?
i also read in a few threads that the bose spakers are not that bad, its the amp that needs to be upgraded to improve sound clarity. any thruth to this?
i also read in a few threads that the bose spakers are not that bad, its the amp that needs to be upgraded to improve sound clarity. any thruth to this?
#39
Full System install 5th Gen
I have an GLE that came with Bose system, swapped everything out with Rockford Fosgate 6.5 comp and coax in the rear doors, took out the nose sub and used it as a " port " running 2 Skar audio ix 8s in ported box along side with Skar audio 5ch and for the HU kenwood. Tweeter size is 1inch which fit perfectly so you guys shouldn't have a problem fitting a 1inch tweet.
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