Muffler shops terms I can't remove precats or hut them out?
its the law,
04-28-2014, 04:06 PM
#4
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Federal law. You cannot tamper with emissions equipment. This is even more strict if you live in a state with state inspections. You need to find a mom and pop muffler shop or a friend to gut the manifolds or install headers.
04-30-2014, 08:08 AM
#7
Is it better to install headers and keep the precats incase I wanna sell? Also what is the manifold and how does it work with the precats?
It seems headers are better option, so what's the cheapest header I buy? I'm gonna get one today.
Or if you got one to sell. Non racing though, I don't speed.
It seems headers are better option, so what's the cheapest header I buy? I'm gonna get one today.
Or if you got one to sell. Non racing though, I don't speed.
04-30-2014, 08:15 AM
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Is it better to install headers and keep the precats incase I wanna sell? Also what is the manifold and how does it work with the precats?
It seems headers are better option, so what's the cheapest header I buy? I'm gonna get one today.
Or if you got one to sell. Non racing though, I don't speed.
It seems headers are better option, so what's the cheapest header I buy? I'm gonna get one today.
Or if you got one to sell. Non racing though, I don't speed.
04-30-2014, 09:12 AM
#10
Any decent header will do.
04-30-2014, 12:43 PM
#12
04-30-2014, 03:41 PM
#16
What's the worst that can happen, throw cheap quarts of oil at it for a while? Still economically better than spending money on an exhaust set-up if he's not keeping the car.
05-01-2014, 05:42 AM
#18
About 900 for 2 precats, car runs like shiat cuz it cat is clogged up I have no top end speed. I just drive slow... needs paint, new seat since the leather is torn, sunroof leak, bunch of other crap.
Just gonna leave it, if my finances allow I may just keep it as a second car. It's probably worth 3k maybe less than that but these cars are solid.
Just gonna leave it, if my finances allow I may just keep it as a second car. It's probably worth 3k maybe less than that but these cars are solid.
05-01-2014, 06:50 AM
#19
About 900 for 2 precats, car runs like shiat cuz it cat is clogged up I have no top end speed. I just drive slow... needs paint, new seat since the leather is torn, sunroof leak, bunch of other crap.
Just gonna leave it, if my finances allow I may just keep it as a second car. It's probably worth 3k maybe less than that but these cars are solid.
Just gonna leave it, if my finances allow I may just keep it as a second car. It's probably worth 3k maybe less than that but these cars are solid.
http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/sh...rter-2003.html
05-01-2014, 07:03 AM
#20
In your position I would consider:
gutting the pre-cats and re-installing the OEM y-pipe.
replace the primary O2 sensors.
maybe perhaps consider an O2 sim to add to the secondary O2 sensors.
The rationale here is, with the gutted pre-cats the primary/secondary O2 sensors should pick up the the missing pre-cats. However, brand new fast primary O2 sensors coupled with tired old secondary O2 sensors may be enough to let the ECU think that all is good.
The check engine light you are getting now is probably due to ALL your O2 sensors being in a similar state of tiredness.
gutting the pre-cats and re-installing the OEM y-pipe.
replace the primary O2 sensors.
maybe perhaps consider an O2 sim to add to the secondary O2 sensors.
The rationale here is, with the gutted pre-cats the primary/secondary O2 sensors should pick up the the missing pre-cats. However, brand new fast primary O2 sensors coupled with tired old secondary O2 sensors may be enough to let the ECU think that all is good.
The check engine light you are getting now is probably due to ALL your O2 sensors being in a similar state of tiredness.
05-01-2014, 08:20 AM
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In your position I would consider:
gutting the pre-cats and re-installing the OEM y-pipe.
replace the primary O2 sensors.
maybe perhaps consider an O2 sim to add to the secondary O2 sensors.
The rationale here is, with the gutted pre-cats the primary/secondary O2 sensors should pick up the the missing pre-cats. However, brand new fast primary O2 sensors coupled with tired old secondary O2 sensors may be enough to let the ECU think that all is good.
The check engine light you are getting now is probably due to ALL your O2 sensors being in a similar state of tiredness.
gutting the pre-cats and re-installing the OEM y-pipe.
replace the primary O2 sensors.
maybe perhaps consider an O2 sim to add to the secondary O2 sensors.
The rationale here is, with the gutted pre-cats the primary/secondary O2 sensors should pick up the the missing pre-cats. However, brand new fast primary O2 sensors coupled with tired old secondary O2 sensors may be enough to let the ECU think that all is good.
The check engine light you are getting now is probably due to ALL your O2 sensors being in a similar state of tiredness.
05-01-2014, 08:33 AM
#22
Nice to be FED-spec, aint it? 
05-02-2014, 09:35 AM
#23
Yeah you are good to go. If you get an O2 check engine light...maybe add an O2 sim after the cat.
05-02-2014, 12:55 PM
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http://www.o2sim.com/
05-02-2014, 02:58 PM
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I have no cats, an O2 sim after the test pipe, and no issues.
For the original poster, why don't you get some used manifolds with pre-cats?
Search car-parts.com. Should be able to get them for around $50 each.
For the original poster, why don't you get some used manifolds with pre-cats?
Search car-parts.com. Should be able to get them for around $50 each.
05-02-2014, 03:42 PM
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It's technically illegal to sell used cats and precats. You would need to look in the classifieds to get them from someone for a junkyard won't sell them.
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