DSS Axle broke yesterday (pics)
04-22-2012, 05:52 AM
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DSS Axle broke yesterday (pics)
Yesteday while doing a very light u turn i pushed the gas coming out of the u turn and this is what happened. Keep in mind that I installed the set of dss axles about a month ago and I am not lowered of any kind. I was on my road when it happened and I take this same u turn very often. Lucky my neighbor saw me and towed me back home into the front yard using his pick up truck.
I may have just got a manufacture defect but I am very afraid to give them another shot after experiencing this.
I may have just got a manufacture defect but I am very afraid to give them another shot after experiencing this.
04-22-2012, 06:05 AM
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Far from major but I think she does pretty good. Lightweight flywheel on a 2005 tranny (smaller gear ratios), cattman headers, cold air, intake spacers, and vias block plate. Shes powerful but not that powerful.
These axles were supposed to be the axles of choice and are not remaned, they are brand new. A few members on here have given dss a lot of credit. I know it may be a defect but defect or not I am not sure I want to use there product any longer. It is so new that I still have the box it came in. I will be contacting my dealer tomorrow to see what we can do. Scary thing is that my dss driver side axle is still in while I put my oem axle back in on the pass side.
04-22-2012, 07:16 AM
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04-22-2012, 07:26 AM
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04-22-2012, 07:47 AM
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That sucks
Sorry to hear, glad mine are doing fine after 6 months. You mentioned you often make that U turn, and gave it some gas as you ended the turn? I try to be slow and gentle when doing a U because the outer joint is at the most extreme angle and has the greatest chance of binding- thanks for sharing, good reminder.
04-22-2012, 07:51 AM
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Sorry to hear, glad mine are doing fine after 6 months. You mentioned you often make that U turn, and gave it some gas as you ended the turn? I try to be slow and gentle when doing a U because the outer joint is at the most extreme angle and has the greatest chance of binding- thanks for sharing, good reminder.
04-22-2012, 08:02 AM
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Sorry to hear, glad mine are doing fine after 6 months. You mentioned you often make that U turn, and gave it some gas as you ended the turn? I try to be slow and gentle when doing a U because the outer joint is at the most extreme angle and has the greatest chance of binding- thanks for sharing, good reminder.
The amount of gas applied coming out of the uturn was enough to get me moving out of the u turn.
Agreed
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04-22-2012, 08:04 AM
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I agree, my point is these axles may not handle an extreme joint angle well. Perhaps this one had a defect, or perhaps it's an inherent weaknes in the design- either way I appreciate NismoAce giving us a heads up by sharing his unfortunate experience.
04-22-2012, 08:16 AM
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I bought mine awhile back I see they did stop making it; thats unfortunate. You could go with GSP 
...They are the cheapest BUT are hit or miss. Anyone whos slammed they won't work for they usually go out within a month or less, just ask essential1. While people who are stock they seem to last anywhere from a week to 2K, 5K, 13K, and 20K. That's just from what I have researched and heard.
...They are the cheapest BUT are hit or miss. Anyone whos slammed they won't work for they usually go out within a month or less, just ask essential1. While people who are stock they seem to last anywhere from a week to 2K, 5K, 13K, and 20K. That's just from what I have researched and heard.
04-22-2012, 08:20 AM
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I'm not sure if you ever resolved this issue from your Trans Replacement Thread:
It seems as though you had one of three issues.
1. You were sold the wrong application.(wrong length)
2. The axle joint popped out sometime during install.(this is easy to miss)
3. The axle was defective from the store.
From the appearance of the broken axle in your photo, it looks like it was one of the first two.
1. You were sold the wrong application.(wrong length)
2. The axle joint popped out sometime during install.(this is easy to miss)
3. The axle was defective from the store.
From the appearance of the broken axle in your photo, it looks like it was one of the first two.
04-22-2012, 08:54 AM
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I'm not sure if you ever resolved this issue from your Trans Replacement Thread:
It seems as though you had one of three issues.
1. You were sold the wrong application.(wrong length)
2. The axle joint popped out sometime during install.(this is easy to miss)
3. The axle was defective from the store.
From the appearance of the broken axle in your photo, it looks like it was one of the first two.
It seems as though you had one of three issues.
1. You were sold the wrong application.(wrong length)
2. The axle joint popped out sometime during install.(this is easy to miss)
3. The axle was defective from the store.
From the appearance of the broken axle in your photo, it looks like it was one of the first two.
As for the clunking noise, that was due to a loose end link. Solved that and I have no noise coming from the front end other then the crappy struts and mounts.
Last edited by NmexMAX; 04-23-2012 at 10:37 AM.
04-22-2012, 09:25 AM
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Your brain is like a computer. The axle that was moving in and out was the driver side wich is still fine and now that I think about it the factory driver side did the same thing.
As for the clunking noise, that was due to a loose end link. Solved that and I have no noise coming from the front end other then the crappy struts and mounts.
As for the clunking noise, that was due to a loose end link. Solved that and I have no noise coming from the front end other then the crappy struts and mounts.
04-22-2012, 10:26 AM
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04-22-2012, 10:37 AM
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Dam ace. I have a brand new dss sitting in my garage I would drop off but I'm an auto not a manual. Did you get it from Groton? They are pretty good about covering parts most of the time. That's where I got mine from since alex told me that's where they get theirs from the oem ones are up there in price
04-22-2012, 11:01 AM
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Dam ace. I have a brand new dss sitting in my garage I would drop off but I'm an auto not a manual. Did you get it from Groton? They are pretty good about covering parts most of the time. That's where I got mine from since alex told me that's where they get theirs from the oem ones are up there in price
Its the driver side that matters.
04-22-2012, 11:10 AM
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that's horrible. I have done many axle jobs and have never seen anything like this. Glad it was at low speeds, can you imagine if this happened on the freeway during an emergency maneuver. yikes. get it replaced free of charge as it seems like a factory defect.
04-22-2012, 12:25 PM
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I have gsp axles. A six speed with the same mods as you and these axles have been good so far (about 25k miles). Be careful though, I believe they sell the drivers side axle the same for manual and automatic, which is technically incorrect but obviously my car has been fine.
I would return that axle for a free replacement. Try to rule out manufacturer defect that way.
I would return that axle for a free replacement. Try to rule out manufacturer defect that way.
04-22-2012, 01:42 PM
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Dam ace. I have a brand new dss sitting in my garage I would drop off but I'm an auto not a manual. Did you get it from Groton? They are pretty good about covering parts most of the time. That's where I got mine from since alex told me that's where they get theirs from the oem ones are up there in price
Thanks man. Yeah alex said oem is rediculous. I had my old orignal axle downstairs so I threw that in and was back up and running within an hour.
I just dont know how I feel about throwing another dss in here. If I was on the highway it wouldnt have been good. I was lucky enough to avoid a tow since I was only 100ft from my home when it happend.
04-22-2012, 01:43 PM
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Ah thanks I knew one was different.
Ace mine is a 8004n. If it is compatible text me I can meet up with you if your in a bind
And whoever works at your place with Ser wheels needs to lower the car to lol
04-22-2012, 01:44 PM
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I agree. I got very lucky or someone was watching over me.
I plan on calling up the retailer tomorrow to discuss the issue. Im sure I will be able to get another one I just really am worried about putting one of these one my car again.
I have gsp axles. A six speed with the same mods as you and these axles have been good so far (about 25k miles). Be careful though, I believe they sell the drivers side axle the same for manual and automatic, which is technically incorrect but obviously my car has been fine.
I would return that axle for a free replacement. Try to rule out manufacturer defect that way.
I would return that axle for a free replacement. Try to rule out manufacturer defect that way.
any vibration with gsp?
lmaoooooo thats my car. I put my factory axle back in for now. It is a good axle I was just replacing it proactively while I had the tranny out. Lesson learned.
And yeah my car has the ser wheels painted. It looks like a monster truck doesnt it!
That adds to my point that im not even lowered.
Month ago I put in a new tranny, control arms, wheel hubs, spindle, bearings, end links, inner and outter tie rods. Cant blame anything else for my event.
If this happened to one I would be afraid of it happening to the next.
Last edited by NmexMAX; 04-23-2012 at 10:38 AM.
04-22-2012, 01:58 PM
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With the kind of turning radius our cars have, I don't think U turns had ever occurred to them.
04-22-2012, 02:51 PM
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On the good side I was able to call my boy and say "You know how I know my car is faster than yours? Because I broke my axle!"
04-22-2012, 03:01 PM
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Mine looks like that now with the h&r's on the car so don't feel bad at all lol
04-22-2012, 03:04 PM
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04-22-2012, 03:15 PM
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I had blown shocks and struts with my tein s techs and holy ****ty ride
I looked by the install by it looked dark there so I didn't ask if you were there. We were there looking for a big screen tv
I looked by the install by it looked dark there so I didn't ask if you were there. We were there looking for a big screen tv
04-22-2012, 04:24 PM
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I do get slight vibration on acceleration only, I am also dropped on eibachs. I strongly recommend rebuilding the joints on the oem axles. They do sell those parts separately and I think it's around $40 a side.
04-23-2012, 09:54 AM
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Crazy.....I don't know how low you are but if you slam your car to the ground that puts lots of pressure on the axle. A mild drop of 1 - 1.5" is OK, but alot of people drop the thing so far the wheels UNDER the fender....cmon now. Might want to get some Raxle Axles...actually they only make one for the drivers side on 6MT. Other than that if you want to ride around scraping on the ground might have to get custom axles or raise it up a bit. I dont know how low you were, might have just be a defective axle.
04-23-2012, 09:59 AM
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Crazy.....I don't know how low you are but if you slam your car to the ground that puts lots of pressure on the axle. A mild drop of 1 - 1.5" is OK, but alot of people drop the thing so far the wheels UNDER the fender....cmon now. Might want to get some Raxle Axles...actually they only make one for the drivers side on 6MT. Other than that if you want to ride around scraping on the ground might have to get custom axles or raise it up a bit. I dont know how low you were, might have just be a defective axle.
04-23-2012, 10:24 AM
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