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Old 02-05-2012, 05:38 AM   #1
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Other parts to change when doing suspension

So I am gonna have to do some suspension work here, just trying to put together a list of all the other little parts I need to change when doing it.
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are you doing the front suspension? front and rear?

Partial list:
struts/shocks
top hat/ bump stops
LCA
sway bar links and bushings
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Well I got some great advice from DJFRESTYL(great org member and knowledgeable about suspension. So I'll pass on what he told me:

Assuming OEM springs, KYB GR-2 struts

Moog front strut mounts. NO need to replace rear strut mounts, ever.

OEM dustboots - all 4.

The above are the bare minimum for a strut job.

Next - Moog sway bar endlinks and Energy Suspension sway bar bushings.

Wanna go further? Get the subframe collars sold on the forum. They're pretty sweet.

Most of his customers stop here.

If you want to take it further. ES LCA bushings. If you're doing the LCA bushings, swap out your ball joints with Moogs.

With the above, you'd be MORE than golden. There's plenty more you can do - like trailing arm bushings, or motor mounts and subframe bushings, but I'll leave it up to you to decide how far you want to go.

Hope this helps you with your list because it COMPLETED my list thanks to him
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Old 02-05-2012, 10:07 AM   #5
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Was kind of thinking about going BC-R coilovers just to go all the way.

Basically I had a blowout and it took a shock (FL) with it so my car has just been sitting a couple days now. I am just finally getting around to planning the project out so what is on the list is what you guys have said so far.
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Question for those of you sporting aftermarket suspensions: Being on a limited budget, which would be an overall better setup? (I realize alot of this is personal preference)

1. Tokico Hp blues, stock springs, new LCA, FSTB, RSB

2. Tokico Illuminas, HR springs, new LCA, no FSTB, no RSB (due to budget)
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Yeah pretty set on the BC coilovers.

That is where some of the confusion comes in for me because I'm not sure which parts that adds/removes from the equation. Obviously I know I won't need the dustboots and springs/shocks themselves but the rest I don't know. I've been lucky in that I went through two 4th gens and never had to touch the suspension but unfortunately now i know next to nothing about it.

03VQMAX what price you got on them?
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Question for those of you sporting aftermarket suspensions: Being on a limited budget, which would be an overall better setup? (I realize alot of this is personal preference)

1. Tokico Hp blues, stock springs, new LCA, FSTB, RSB

2. Tokico Illuminas, HR springs, new LCA, no FSTB, no RSB (due to budget)
Apples to oranges.

Do you want to lower or not? You don't need Illuminas on H&R's. FSTB vs no FSTB is like a $25 difference.

LCA doesn't need to be replaced unless you have a bad bushing/ball joint, or if you want to upgrade to ES.

But in general, there are too many logical holes in your question.
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:40 AM   #10
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Well I got some great advice from DJFRESTYL(great org member and knowledgeable about suspension. So I'll pass on what he told me:

Assuming OEM springs, KYB GR-2 struts

Moog front strut mounts. NO need to replace rear strut mounts, ever.

OEM dustboots - all 4.

The above are the bare minimum for a strut job.

Next - Moog sway bar endlinks and Energy Suspension sway bar bushings.

Wanna go further? Get the subframe collars sold on the forum. They're pretty sweet.

Most of his customers stop here.

If you want to take it further. ES LCA bushings. If you're doing the LCA bushings, swap out your ball joints with Moogs.

With the above, you'd be MORE than golden. There's plenty more you can do - like trailing arm bushings, or motor mounts and subframe bushings, but I'll leave it up to you to decide how far you want to go.

Hope this helps you with your list because it COMPLETED my list thanks to him
Anyone who does this should absolutely get the OEM from a dealer.

Those have both the bumpstop and the boot as one assembly.

The crap Strut Mate bumps and boots at NAPA - DO NOT FIT CORRECTLY. I had the same problem on my 2000 and 96.
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^^ Concur. And ALL aftermarket boots suck. Doesn't matter if it's Strut mate, KYB, Moog, NAPA, whatever, they all suck.
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Which is the pile of rings on my front struts, the boot or bumpstop? Looking to do this myself soon.
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Which is the pile of rings on my front struts, the boot or bumpstop? Looking to do this myself soon.
The boot.
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Alright unless anyone has anything to add my final list looks like this:

Moog Sway bar endlinks 2x $19.48
Moog Ball joints 2x $61.59
ES Sway bar bushings $20.99
ES Control arm bushings $55.09
ES Trailing arm bushings $69.79
ES Subframe bushings $22.99

All that will be sourced from Energysuspensionparts

Subframe collars $89.01 from guy in classifieds I have to contact still

BC coilovers probably from 03VQ


Aha I just remembered the question I wanted to ask. On ESP they list a 22mm and a 23mm front sway bar bushing, which one would I want, if both would work then what is the difference, price is the same.
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The se had 23mm. I would add moog tie rod ends too. Amazon has the moog sway bar links for 15 each.
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funny i didnt see on anyones list to replace the top hat bearings


those things are made of plastic and if they have never been replaced you absolutely should, just because it's easy and you are already there when replacing strutss
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Thanks 02white that just made me realize I can't use the sway bar end links anyway, it says they only fit the SE and I am GXE.

Amave: Would that apply if I am doing coilovers? I do believe the first two guys said to change those but I thought since I am doing coilovers I wouldn't need to. That's why I am posting my list for confirmation though

New list:

Moog Ball joints 2x $61.59
Moog Front Outer Tie Rod $37.00
Moog Front Inner Tie Rod $51.17
ES Sway bar bushings 22mm $20.99
ES Control arm bushings $55.09
ES Trailing arm bushings $69.79
ES Subframe bushings $22.99

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Alright unless anyone has anything to add my final list looks like this:

Moog Sway bar endlinks 2x $19.48
Moog Ball joints 2x $61.59
ES Sway bar bushings $20.99
ES Control arm bushings $55.09
ES Trailing arm bushings $69.79
ES Subframe bushings $22.99

All that will be sourced from Energysuspensionparts

Subframe collars $89.01 from guy in classifieds I have to contact still

BC coilovers probably from 03VQ


Aha I just remembered the question I wanted to ask. On ESP they list a 22mm and a 23mm front sway bar bushing, which one would I want, if both would work then what is the difference, price is the same.
Amazon's prices are better, and free shipping.

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funny i didnt see on anyones list to replace the top hat bearings


those things are made of plastic and if they have never been replaced you absolutely should, just because it's easy and you are already there when replacing strutss
Moog strut mounts come with new bearings so they're not often discussed - more implied. No point in opening the whole assembly up just to do the bearings. Replace them, with the mounts and boots, when struts are being done...but he's doing coilovers.

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Thanks 02white that just made me realize I can't use the sway bar end links anyway, it says they only fit the SE and I am GXE.

Amave: Would that apply if I am doing coilovers? I do believe the first two guys said to change those but I thought since I am doing coilovers I wouldn't need to. That's why I am posting my list for confirmation though

New list:

Moog Ball joints 2x $61.59
Moog Front Outer Tie Rod $37.00
Moog Front Inner Tie Rod $51.17
ES Sway bar bushings 22mm $20.99
ES Control arm bushings $55.09
ES Trailing arm bushings $69.79
ES Subframe bushings $22.99
Moog sway bar links. Do them. GXE/SE/GLE doesn't matter.

You're correct about coilovers. If doing coilovers, you need NO strut parts - mounts, bearings or boots.
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Which is the pile of rings on my front struts, the boot or bumpstop? Looking to do this myself soon.
YOU SIR, need to come to me for me to do the work. The 45 minute drive is worth it.
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funny i didnt see on anyones list to replace the top hat bearings
That's because they come as part of the Moog strut mount kit.

OP, you've done excellent research, and collected a fine set of parts. Your front-end will feel solid as a rock and far better than even when the car was new.

OAN, at this stages in your Maxima's life, your front wheel bearings are likely getting worn. Just saying.

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YOU SIR, need to come to me for me to do the work. The 45 minute drive is worth it.
Do this. djfrestyl has experience and good character. It's a combination you should take advantage of if you're only 45 minutes away.
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