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12-22-2001, 04:47 PM
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Rice Boy in Denial =)
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Can I Save Money and Run Low Octane?
Article/dyno taken from http://www.dynospotracing.com
Granted it's not a Maxima, it should make you think twice before filling up with the cheap stuff.
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Here is a dyno chart showing two different cars. When I dynoed one of these cars, I knew that something was immediately wrong! Guess which one?
Notice that the 89 Octane car's power curves are very jagged. This is a result of the car "hearing" knocking and pinging and desperately trying to adjust the timing and save the engine. The ECU is almost searching for the best advance and having quite some trouble, not good.
The stunning results of running the lower grade fuel are -22 ft/lbs and almost -19 HP!!!! Ouch!
Folks, don't abuse the knock sensing capabilities of you beloved car. Let's just stick to the good stuff!
http://www.dynospotracing.com/images/octane.jpg
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Click here to see the article: http://www.dynospotracing.com/octane.htm
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12-22-2001, 06:07 PM
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Yep Yep
That's why my Baby Eats Better than I DO.
Sunoco 94 Octane EVERY single damn Fill Up, regardless of my $$$ Status!!! I just eat McDonalds when I'm Poor! 
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12-22-2001, 06:10 PM
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Rice Boy in Denial =)
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Re: Yep Yep
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Originally posted by Empz
That's why my Baby Eats Better than I DO. 
Sunoco 94 Octane EVERY single damn Fill Up, regardless of my $$$ Status!!! I just eat McDonalds when I'm Poor!
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What's wrong with McDonald's?  $4 for a meal... that's bling bling.
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12-22-2001, 06:15 PM
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dollar menu owns everyone on this board.
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12-22-2001, 06:54 PM
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Re: Re: Yep Yep
Naw Dogg ... I'm a Straight Up "Yellow Fellow" ... I need my "Shark Fin", my nice "Steamed Fish" ... my "Ginsing Soup"!
Or AT LEAST my "Wonton Noodles" ... McD's is killin' me ... my "Yellow" Body Rejects that stuff!
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
What's wrong with McDonald's? $4 for a meal... that's bling bling.
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12-22-2001, 06:56 PM
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Yup, Just follow the instructios inside the door (Premium Fuel Recommended) 
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12-22-2001, 07:57 PM
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Got Bent?
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maybe this should be FAQ'd? 
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12-22-2001, 07:58 PM
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Rice Boy in Denial =)
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Quote:
Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE
maybe this should be FAQ'd?
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You can add it and take the credit. 
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12-22-2001, 08:01 PM
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Got Bent?
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Quote:
Originally posted by Y2KevSE
You can add it and take the credit.
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no no... the credit would all be yours 
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12-22-2001, 08:04 PM
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Rice Boy in Denial =)
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Quote:
Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE
no no... the credit would all be yours
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Make people think you're contributing. 
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12-22-2001, 08:06 PM
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Got Bent?
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Quote:
Originally posted by Y2KevSE
Make people think you're contributing.
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hmmm... you trying to call me a cheater? 
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12-22-2001, 08:11 PM
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Rice Boy in Denial =)
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Quote:
Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE
hmmm... you trying to call me a cheater?
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No. 
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12-22-2001, 08:14 PM
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Kev
See! I told you not to use 89 on your dyno runs! 
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12-22-2001, 08:21 PM
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Rice Boy in Denial =)
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Re: Kev
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Originally posted by PhatGuy
See! I told you not to use 89 on your dyno runs!
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Sorry.  I'll use race fuel next time. 
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12-22-2001, 08:22 PM
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Re: Re: Kev
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
Sorry. I'll use race fuel next time.
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doesn't that stuff eat away at the injectors?
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12-22-2001, 08:23 PM
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Rice Boy in Denial =)
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Re: Re: Re: Kev
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Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE
doesn't that stuff eat away at the injectors?
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Once wouldn't hurt too much.
Nah, I use 91 (which is NorCal's highest).
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12-22-2001, 08:26 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Kev
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
Once wouldn't hurt too much. 
Nah, I use 91 (which is NorCal's highest).
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yeah... sucks that you only get 91 out there.... we have 93 out here and they sell 94 in New Jersey.... emissions restrictions 
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12-22-2001, 08:27 PM
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Rice Boy in Denial =)
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kev
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Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE
yeah... ucks that you only get 91 out there.... we have 93 out here and they sell 94 in New Jersey.... emissions restrictions
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Do you guys have 104?
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12-22-2001, 08:28 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kev
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
Do you guys have 104?
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not that I have seen... but if I looked, I am sure I could find some 
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12-22-2001, 08:33 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kev
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Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE
not that I have seen... but if I looked, I am sure I could find some
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i reckon they have 104 over yonder by the drag strips.
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12-22-2001, 08:37 PM
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Rice Boy in Denial =)
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kev
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Originally posted by Newman96SE
i reckon they have 104 over yonder by the drag strips.
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Yeah, Nauman. Drive to your local drag strip each time you need to fill up. 
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12-22-2001, 08:43 PM
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Only 91 in CA? Its 93 here in NJ and sunoco 94 Ultra.
Certain Sunoco stations sell 104 octane. They have over 110 + at our drag strips. 
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12-22-2001, 08:48 PM
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Imma gonna steal ... errr ... copy this into the 4th gen FAQs also. 
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12-22-2001, 08:50 PM
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How about Gen forum? 
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12-22-2001, 08:57 PM
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Yeah only 91... but I haven't been to the strip so I don't know if they have higher octane. They probably do though.
Feel free to use the link/article/dyno Calvin.
If you go to their dyno section, you'll see some nice jpg's of different cars (including M5, F355, blown E36, blown NSX, blown S2K, etc.).
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12-22-2001, 09:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Y2KevSE
Yeah only 91... but I haven't been to the strip so I don't know if they have higher octane. They probably do though.
Feel free to use the link/article/dyno Calvin.
If you go to their dyno section, you'll see some nice jpg's of different cars (including M5, F355, blown E36, blown NSX, blown S2K, etc.).
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Ya, 91 blows.. previously, i've seen 92, then before that there was 94 and 93.. but No.. By the way, since your boosted the 91 will do better than 89 
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12-22-2001, 09:26 PM
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Re: Re: Yep Yep
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
What's wrong with McDonald's? $4 for a meal... that's bling bling.
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shiet...$4? i wish! it's like $5 now...holy cow McDonalds!!
and to get cheap stuff, you have to have really good memory to memorize all the days! i'm eating Del Tac 49cent tacos..but still no ARCO for me!
and uh...Kev...stop pumping cheap gas 
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12-22-2001, 09:38 PM
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I think Road and Track or something published an article on the affects of using a lower grade gasoline and they found the only difference it makes is a couple of hp on the dyno
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12-22-2001, 10:53 PM
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I know this is off topic but why did they go from 92 or 93 octane to 91? At the time gas prices were very high I wonder why we were paying the same for lower octane gas.
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12-22-2001, 11:13 PM
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Rice Boy in Denial =)
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